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TBerk
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:09 pm
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On Sep 5, 7:35 pm, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Sep 2, 6:04 pm, Jim34 <gfhdtr6yd...@googlemail.com> wrote:


Mel Gibson's Apocalypto is the most powerful film of all time,
snip
I bought it and viewed it. The movie
was absolutely brilliant. The music,
cinematography,casting, acting, action
and plot were all brilliantly done.

Citizen Jimserac-



I borrowed it,
watched,
liked it,
returned it.

It is by Far the NOT the Greatest Film of All Time.


Any number of films beat it out;

All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
http://imdb.com/title/tt0020629/

Brazil (1985)
http://imdb.com/title/tt0088846/

Mononoke-hime (1997)
(Princess Mononoke)
http://imdb.com/title/tt0119698/

Hell, I liked 'the 5th Element' waaaaay better than Mel's jungle
flick.

That said, it was decent and engaging despite not being in English.
(Not that there's anything wrong with that.)


I applaud his effort, but I'm not wild about it.


TBerk
Harkness
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:19 pm
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On Sep 4, 3:03 am, "G. M. Watson" <an...@intergate.ca> wrote:
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From: "Wull" <wmai...@sbcglobal.net
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Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:07:42 GMT
Subject: Re: Apocalypto: The Most Powerful Film Of All Time

"Howard Brazee" <how...@brazee.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 05:34:51 +0100, "Stone me" <stran...@corrall.msx
wrote:

Did you include this to check if anyone had read it?
Peoples of the world have differing heights for a number of
reasons. For example, some desert tribes of Africa are very
thin and tall while others who live in forested areas are shorter.

Some have speculated that these peoples have evolved a
beneficial characteristic. Those in desert areas have a smaller
profile to the sun, while people in forested areas would have no
advantage.

Although there is increasing evidence that diet plays a bigger
difference than previously thought - with "races" thought to be short
in the past fitting into international standards with diet changes.

This is very evident with the Chinese and Japanese whose average height has
increased since WWII. The change is attributed to a change in diet.

Yes; more animal protein. Which is why, as a long-time student of Japanese
culture, I thought the contrast-in-height gag (Bill Murray towering over an
elevator full of identical, peanut-sized Japanese businessmen) near the
beginning of Sofia Coppola's "Lost in Translation" was so offensively stupid
and stereotypical-- near-racist, in fact-- that it took me three years to
get around to watching the rest of the film.

Well, I don't know, GM -- whenever I'm in a museum with a lot of tour
groups, I'll tend to follow the Japanese tour group, because I'm
generally speaking a head taller than everyone in the Japanese tour
group -- and Murray and I are the same height.

John Harkness
G. M. Watson
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:56 pm
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From: Harkness <caliban43@yahoo.com
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:19:37 -0700
Subject: Re: Apocalypto: The Most Powerful Film Of All Time

On Sep 4, 3:03 am, "G. M. Watson" <an...@intergate.ca> wrote:
From: "Wull" <wmai...@sbcglobal.net
Organization: SBChttp://yahoo.sbc.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies.international,rec.arts.movies.past-films
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:07:42 GMT
Subject: Re: Apocalypto: The Most Powerful Film Of All Time

"Howard Brazee" <how...@brazee.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 05:34:51 +0100, "Stone me" <stran...@corrall.msx
wrote:

Did you include this to check if anyone had read it?
Peoples of the world have differing heights for a number of
reasons. For example, some desert tribes of Africa are very
thin and tall while others who live in forested areas are shorter.

Some have speculated that these peoples have evolved a
beneficial characteristic. Those in desert areas have a smaller
profile to the sun, while people in forested areas would have no
advantage.

Although there is increasing evidence that diet plays a bigger
difference than previously thought - with "races" thought to be short
in the past fitting into international standards with diet changes.

This is very evident with the Chinese and Japanese whose average height has
increased since WWII. The change is attributed to a change in diet.

Yes; more animal protein. Which is why, as a long-time student of Japanese
culture, I thought the contrast-in-height gag (Bill Murray towering over an
elevator full of identical, peanut-sized Japanese businessmen) near the
beginning of Sofia Coppola's "Lost in Translation" was so offensively stupid
and stereotypical-- near-racist, in fact-- that it took me three years to
get around to watching the rest of the film.

Well, I don't know, GM -- whenever I'm in a museum with a lot of tour
groups, I'll tend to follow the Japanese tour group, because I'm
generally speaking a head taller than everyone in the Japanese tour
group -- and Murray and I are the same height.

John Harkness

Well, I'm only 5-10 myself, but I'd be willing to speculate that those tour
groups (and of course I've encountered them as well, from Prague to LA and
back) are primarily composed of older Japanese born in the 30s, 40s and
early 50s, back when the "peanut-sized Jap" (to quote an infamous line from
"Zen Combat", Jay Gluck's pioneering 1962 survey of Japanese martial arts)
was still a given, and before the massive post-war wave of
economically-driven societal change--including diet-- had really taken root
in Japan. The post-1970 generation tends to tower head and shoulders above
their grandparents and often their parents as well. I still maintain that
that shot in "Lost in Translation" perpetuates an offensive
white-supremacist stereotype. Rest of the flick wasn't too bad, though...
GMW
 
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