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| sparky spiegelman |
 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:10 am |
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I have often heard that silent movie actors didn't necessarily say
words that are in script or on the dialogue cards according to some
lip readers.
Can anyone give me any unique examples?
I have heard John Barrymore often used some unique language. Was he
the worst violator? What did he say? Who else used colorful language
on screen? Which movies would be prime examples of this non scripted
on camera dialogue?
And outside of the colorful language, has anyone ever caught an actor
saying anything that might be considered a blooper?
Sparky Spiegelman
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| RIchard M Roberts |
| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 12:13 pm |
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sparky spiegelman wrote:
Quote: I have often heard that silent movie actors didn't necessarily say
words that are in script or on the dialogue cards according to some
lip readers.
Can anyone give me any unique examples?
I have heard John Barrymore often used some unique language. Was he
the worst violator? What did he say? Who else used colorful language
on screen? Which movies would be prime examples of this non scripted
on camera dialogue?
And outside of the colorful language, has anyone ever caught an actor
saying anything that might be considered a blooper?
Sparky Spiegelman
Chatsworth, CA
Three Words: WHAT PRICE GLORY.
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| Burbank74 |
| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 3:16 pm |
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In the Chaplin Mutual, THE FIREMAN, after Edna leaves Charlie and Eric on the
doorstep of her home - there is a cut to an interior of Edna about to ascend
the stairs. Right before she does Edna clearly mouths the word "bastard". I'd
love to know who (Charlie or Eric) she's referring to... |
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| Max Nineteennineteen |
| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 5:50 pm |
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sparkyspiegelman@yahoo.com (sparky spiegelman) wrote in message news:<8f14b054.0403270810.1ae983cc@posting.google.com>...
Quote: I have often heard that silent movie actors didn't necessarily say
words that are in script or on the dialogue cards according to some
lip readers.
Can anyone give me any unique examples?
I have heard John Barrymore often used some unique language. Was he
the worst violator? What did he say? Who else used colorful language
on screen? Which movies would be prime examples of this non scripted
on camera dialogue?
And outside of the colorful language, has anyone ever caught an actor
saying anything that might be considered a blooper?
Well, you can certainly see actors addressing their co-stars by their
real names fairly regularly. |
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| R H Draney |
| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 1:07 am |
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Max Nineteennineteen filted:
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sparkyspiegelman@yahoo.com (sparky spiegelman) wrote in message
news:<8f14b054.0403270810.1ae983cc@posting.google.com>...
And outside of the colorful language, has anyone ever caught an actor
saying anything that might be considered a blooper?
Well, you can certainly see actors addressing their co-stars by their
real names fairly regularly.
Hey, Dick Van Dyke did that to Rose Marie in an episode of his sitcom that you
can still catch when the reruns are on....r |
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| Feuillade |
| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 1:06 pm |
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burbank74@aol.com (Burbank74) writes:
Quote: In the Chaplin Mutual, THE FIREMAN,
after Edna leaves Charlie and Eric on the
doorstep of her home - there is a cut to
an interior of Edna about to ascend
the stairs. Right before she does Edna
clearly mouths the word "bastard". I'd
love to know who (Charlie or Eric) she's
referring to...
Edna was referring to George Shelps.
(Didn't know she was clairvoyant, did you?)
Tom Moran
"You can get a great deal of entertainment
out of tedious people if you keep your head.''
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| Constance Kuriyama |
| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 2:07 pm |
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Burbank74 (burbank74@aol.com) writes:
Quote: In the Chaplin Mutual, THE FIREMAN, after Edna leaves Charlie and Eric on the
doorstep of her home - there is a cut to an interior of Edna about to ascend
the stairs. Right before she does Edna clearly mouths the word "bastard". I'd
love to know who (Charlie or Eric) she's referring to...
Obviously Eric, because she's just been forced to be polite to him.
Since my lip-reading skills have improved, I've discovered that there's quite
a bit of profanity in silents. Not only "bastard" but also "son of a bitch" and
"damn it" occur in Chaplin's films, not to mention pantomimed profanity.
There's even some in Harold Lloyd--as I discovered when I was finally able to
see some good prints. "Sob" also occurs in _Wings_.
I now know what coaches and players are saying off microphone during
football games. Doesn't bear repeating.
Connie K.
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| Foto28 |
| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 2:47 pm |
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There are a number of choice lines in SADIE THOMPSON as well.
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Danny Burk
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| Fred Wiebel |
| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:21 am |
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Tell me if I'm wrong but in "City Lights" doesn't Chaplin give the newsboys the
finger when they are tearing apart his gloves? |
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| J. Theakston |
| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:23 pm |
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fredwiebel@aol.com (Fred Wiebel) wrote in message news:<20040329112149.15684.00000272@mb-m04.aol.com>...
Quote: Tell me if I'm wrong but in "City Lights" doesn't Chaplin give the newsboys the
finger when they are tearing apart his gloves?
Shooting the birdie was not uncommon in the 1920s, but it was a lot
tamer a version of what we use it for today. The sentiment was still
the same, though. My favorite instance of it is Harold Lloyd in
SPEEDY when he realizes he's ruined his new jacket. Very non-chalant.
-J. Theakston |
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| Lincoln Spector |
| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:45 pm |
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"R H Draney" <dadoctah@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Quote: Max Nineteennineteen filted:
sparkyspiegelman@yahoo.com (sparky spiegelman) wrote in message
news:<8f14b054.0403270810.1ae983cc@posting.google.com>...
And outside of the colorful language, has anyone ever caught an actor
saying anything that might be considered a blooper?
Well, you can certainly see actors addressing their co-stars by their
real names fairly regularly.
Hey, Dick Van Dyke did that to Rose Marie in an episode of his sitcom that
you
can still catch when the reruns are on....r
And there's a moment in the original Star Wars, just after the climatic
battle, where Luke throws his arms around Leia and shouts "Carrie!" Don't
know if it's in the Nothing Special Edition.
Lincoln |
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| Constance Kuriyama |
| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:55 pm |
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Fred Wiebel (fredwiebel@aol.com) writes:
Quote: Tell me if I'm wrong but in "City Lights" doesn't Chaplin give the newsboys the
finger when they are tearing apart his gloves?
I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't know if that gesture was current in
the early thirties. He gives the crowd at the statue a giant bird, of
course, which the finger has replaced, and does a couple of disrespectful
things to the reclining figure with the sword.
Not to mention instructing Jackie to "kick ass" in _The Kid_.
With such expressive resources, who needs a filthy mouth? ;-)
Connie K.
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| R H Draney |
| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:44 pm |
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Constance Kuriyama filted:
Quote:
Fred Wiebel (fredwiebel@aol.com) writes:
Tell me if I'm wrong but in "City Lights" doesn't Chaplin give the newsboys the
finger when they are tearing apart his gloves?
With such expressive resources, who needs a filthy mouth? 
It strikes me that you never see anyone cocking a snook any more....r |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:37 pm |
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On 30 Mar 2004 00:55:24 GMT, do481@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Constance Kuriyama)
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Quote: Fred Wiebel (fredwiebel@aol.com) writes:
Tell me if I'm wrong but in "City Lights" doesn't Chaplin give the newsboys the
finger when they are tearing apart his gloves?
I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't know if that gesture was current in
the early thirties. He gives the crowd at the statue a giant bird, of
course, which the finger has replaced, and does a couple of disrespectful
things to the reclining figure with the sword.
Not to mention instructing Jackie to "kick ass" in _The Kid_.
With such expressive resources, who needs a filthy mouth? ;-)
Connie K.
Georgia Hale mouths a couple of "damned fool"s in TGR. |
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| Eric Stott |
| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:06 pm |
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Phil, P wrote:
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Georgia Hale mouths a couple of "damned fool"s in TGR.
Well, "Dammed" was an oath, but by the early 20th C. it had become a reasonably mild
one. The phrase "Life Is One Dammed Thing After Another" was originated, or
appropriated, by Elbert Hubbard (died 1915) and issued as an attractively illuminated
motto sutable for framing.
Stott
"The Love You Liberate In Your Work Is The Only Love You Keep"
Elbert Hubbard |
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