Main Page | Report this Page
 
   
Movies Forum Index  »  Movie Technology Forum  »  Silly Fun With 5.1
Page 1 of 1    
Author Message
Lincoln Spector
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:31 pm
Guest
We've all heard horrible 5.1 remixes of films never intended to be in 5.1.
But I'm sure with a little imagination, we could do even worse. So lets see
how you would approach doing the worst possible remix.

Let's set the stage: Your employer has acquired the rights to some Hollywood
film of the 30's or 40's. Which one doesn't matter; what matters is that the
sound is an optical mono mix that survives only on a well-used release
print. There are no surviving stems. Your job is to remix the sound for 5.1.

You have two priorities: 1) Keep costs down as much as possible. 2) Make the
track satisfactory for those DVD buyers who don't like a disc unless they
hear sounds all around them and the room shakes every so often from the
subwoofer (you know the type; they review DVDs for Web sites). Wasting time
and money on any other priority, such as the integrity of the original mix,
is a fireable offense.

My own technique: I'd put the original track through the center speaker,
then add jungle animal sound effects (even if the film is set in Manhattan)
to the other four. Every music cue would get synthesized base for the LFE.

What would you do?

Lincoln
RP Faiola
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:13 pm
Guest
I'd add discreet, ambient sounds of telephone bells at various times, thereby
causing viewers to pause their DVD, get up from their recliners, run to the
next room and find nobody but a dial tone at the other end of the line!
Harry Chickpea
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:55 pm
Guest
"Lincoln Spector" <Notreally@myemailaddress.com> wrote:

Quote:
We've all heard horrible 5.1 remixes of films never intended to be in 5.1.
But I'm sure with a little imagination, we could do even worse. So lets see
how you would approach doing the worst possible remix.

You have two priorities: 1) Keep costs down as much as possible. 2) Make the
track satisfactory for those DVD buyers who don't like a disc unless they
hear sounds all around them and the room shakes every so often from the
subwoofer (you know the type; they review DVDs for Web sites). Wasting time
and money on any other priority, such as the integrity of the original mix,
is a fireable offense.

What would you do?

Lincoln

Earthshaking subwooofer enhanced farts discretely scattered through the mix
could be entertaining to kids and a cause for additional sales among some
customers.

The sound of a freight train crossing the room could be interjected during a
love scene. (Train enters tunnel and all that.)

Mosquitoes buzzing around the surrounds might make some listeners dive for
cover while being entertaining for others.

How about the sound of a defective DVD player starting about halfway through
the film? >-)

Maybe a loud POP! out of one channel and then the sounds on that channel being
reproduced like they came from a blown speaker.

An ultrasonic whine that would set the dog to barking could be fun.

Spinning the front channel around from one speaker to another and then adding
flare and effects would just be mean.

In other words, one way or the other, I'd get fired.
Sydney Assbasket
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:56 am
Guest
Quote:

We've all heard horrible 5.1 remixes of films never intended to be in 5.1.
But I'm sure with a little imagination, we could do even worse. So lets see
how you would approach doing the worst possible remix.

Let's set the stage: Your employer has acquired the rights to some Hollywood
film of the 30's or 40's. Which one doesn't matter; what matters is that the
sound is an optical mono mix that survives only on a well-used release
print. There are no surviving stems. Your job is to remix the sound for 5.1.

You have two priorities: 1) Keep costs down as much as possible. 2) Make the
track satisfactory for those DVD buyers who don't like a disc unless they
hear sounds all around them and the room shakes every so often from the
subwoofer (you know the type; they review DVDs for Web sites). Wasting time
and money on any other priority, such as the integrity of the original mix,
is a fireable offense.

Blaring gangsta rap soundtrack throughout the film. Lots of spaceship "whoosh"
effects and explosions. At some points pan the mono channel around all the
channels for a while. Constant LFE earthquake rumbling. Water gushing and
fire sound effects.

Remove "moc" to reply.

When toy shopping, look for the Joe Mantegna Seal Of Safety. It's your only
guarantee that the toy has been deemed safe by Joe Mantegna.
Richard
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:03 pm
Guest
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:31:23 GMT, "Lincoln Spector"
<Notreally@myemailaddress.com> wrote:


Quote:
and money on any other priority, such as the integrity of the original mix,
is a fireable offense.

My own technique: I'd put the original track through the center speaker,
then add jungle animal sound effects (even if the film is set in Manhattan)
to the other four. Every music cue would get synthesized base for the LFE.

What would you do?

I'll kill myself rather than doing such insanity Wink
Martin Hart
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 3:40 pm
Guest
Quote:
We've all heard horrible 5.1 remixes of films never intended to be in 5.1.
But I'm sure with a little imagination, we could do even worse. So lets see
how you would approach doing the worst possible remix.

Let's set the stage: Your employer has acquired the rights to some Hollywood
film of the 30's or 40's. Which one doesn't matter; what matters is that the
sound is an optical mono mix that survives only on a well-used release
print. There are no surviving stems. Your job is to remix the sound for 5.1.

You have two priorities: 1) Keep costs down as much as possible. 2) Make the
track satisfactory for those DVD buyers who don't like a disc unless they
hear sounds all around them and the room shakes every so often from the
subwoofer (you know the type; they review DVDs for Web sites). Wasting time
and money on any other priority, such as the integrity of the original mix,
is a fireable offense.

Every time I run a DVD of an old mono film that's on the MGM/UA label I
get a dose of this nonsense right off the bat. Those bogus MGM logos
that are stuck on the front of United Artists, Orion, Embassy, and other
non MGM films are loaded with gut punching LFE and surround effects, and
then the soundtrack collapses to the center channel.

It's for this reason that I cue up DVDs using a 5" monitor with the
amplifier set to "mute". Now if we could convince WB to kill that
horrible Turner logo with the accompanying music played by the East
Atlanta High School Marching Band, we'd be getting somewhere.

Marty
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com
The American WideScreen Museum
Bob Morris
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:23 pm
Guest
AMPAS has just awarded a post-humous Oscar to Stanley Kubrick
for the greatest surround sound effect in cinema history:
"A pink cashmere sweater has been found in the lobby."

Bob Morris
Terry del Fuego
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:15 pm
Guest
On 18 Dec 2003 19:23:26 GMT, morris@sce-12.sce.carleton.ca (Bob
Morris) wrote:

Quote:
AMPAS has just awarded a post-humous Oscar to Stanley Kubrick
for the greatest surround sound effect in cinema history:
"A pink cashmere sweater has been found in the lobby."

I agree...though I think it was "a blue ladies' cashmere sweater..."
Lincoln Spector
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:41 pm
Guest
"Terry del Fuego" <t_del_fuego@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0gc6uv43j1ddo8et95bn3v2lfc6tv1fg4f@4ax.com...
Quote:
On 18 Dec 2003 19:23:26 GMT, morris@sce-12.sce.carleton.ca (Bob
Morris) wrote:

AMPAS has just awarded a post-humous Oscar to Stanley Kubrick
for the greatest surround sound effect in cinema history:
"A pink cashmere sweater has been found in the lobby."

I agree...though I think it was "a blue ladies' cashmere sweater..."
Why don't we compromise with "a pink lady's cashmere sweater." Then it could

belong to Helen Gahagan.

Lincoln
Guest
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 1:30 am
If you are going to do a FUN 5.1 re-mix, then make it a true, authentic
movie theater experience.

The original mono audio mix drops into the center channel, while the
chomping of popcorn from every direction transports you to a modern day
cinema. ..What's that sound behind me?? A cell-phone! ..One of the patrons
must have forgot to shut off his or her cell phone. Imagine that. When the
film has quieter sections you can hear the outdated A/C system kick on in
the front left and right channels (it's a shame we don't have a 'height'
audio channel yet, as this would have been a natural.) Then from surround
right: "Mommy... Mommy... I have to pee!!!" From the surround left, which
is even louder "SHHHHHHHHH". In the left front- a loud whisper is heard
"..Watch this next scene... coming up next, that guy is going to grab the
gun ..and then... and then..." Now there are new whispers to the right
..... "The book was so much better, I blame the director. Did I ever tell
you I met him once? A total ass, but I got his autograph....." And if you
have a center back EX channel, you can hear someone in the far back of
your home theater yelling "FOCUS!! ... FOCUS!!...."

OK, maybe it's a good thing we don't have a home version of smell-a-vision. ;)



"Lincoln Spector" <Notreally@myemailaddress.com> wrote in message news:<v23Eb.41098$LT7.8834@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com>...
Quote:
We've all heard horrible 5.1 remixes of films never intended to be in 5.1.
But I'm sure with a little imagination, we could do even worse. So lets see
how you would approach doing the worst possible remix.

Let's set the stage: Your employer has acquired the rights to some Hollywood
film of the 30's or 40's. Which one doesn't matter; what matters is that the
sound is an optical mono mix that survives only on a well-used release
print. There are no surviving stems. Your job is to remix the sound for 5.1.

You have two priorities: 1) Keep costs down as much as possible. 2) Make the
track satisfactory for those DVD buyers who don't like a disc unless they
hear sounds all around them and the room shakes every so often from the
subwoofer (you know the type; they review DVDs for Web sites). Wasting time
and money on any other priority, such as the integrity of the original mix,
is a fireable offense.

My own technique: I'd put the original track through the center speaker,
then add jungle animal sound effects (even if the film is set in Manhattan)
to the other four. Every music cue would get synthesized base for the LFE.

What would you do?

Lincoln
Lincoln Spector
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:51 pm
Guest
Funny! Very funny!

Lincoln

<gkintz@mixi.net> wrote in message
news:64bc918d.0312201930.7e201cd6@posting.google.com...
Quote:
If you are going to do a FUN 5.1 re-mix, then make it a true, authentic
movie theater experience.

The original mono audio mix drops into the center channel, while the
chomping of popcorn from every direction transports you to a modern day
cinema. ..What's that sound behind me?? A cell-phone! ..One of the patrons
must have forgot to shut off his or her cell phone. Imagine that. When the
film has quieter sections you can hear the outdated A/C system kick on in
the front left and right channels (it's a shame we don't have a 'height'
audio channel yet, as this would have been a natural.) Then from surround
right: "Mommy... Mommy... I have to pee!!!" From the surround left, which
is even louder "SHHHHHHHHH". In the left front- a loud whisper is heard
"..Watch this next scene... coming up next, that guy is going to grab the
gun ..and then... and then..." Now there are new whispers to the right
.... "The book was so much better, I blame the director. Did I ever tell
you I met him once? A total ass, but I got his autograph....." And if you
have a center back EX channel, you can hear someone in the far back of
your home theater yelling "FOCUS!! ... FOCUS!!...."

OK, maybe it's a good thing we don't have a home version of
smell-a-vision. ;)



"Lincoln Spector" <Notreally@myemailaddress.com> wrote in message
news:<v23Eb.41098$LT7.8834@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com>...
We've all heard horrible 5.1 remixes of films never intended to be in
5.1.
But I'm sure with a little imagination, we could do even worse. So lets
see
how you would approach doing the worst possible remix.

Let's set the stage: Your employer has acquired the rights to some
Hollywood
film of the 30's or 40's. Which one doesn't matter; what matters is that
the
sound is an optical mono mix that survives only on a well-used release
print. There are no surviving stems. Your job is to remix the sound for
5.1.

You have two priorities: 1) Keep costs down as much as possible. 2) Make
the
track satisfactory for those DVD buyers who don't like a disc unless
they
hear sounds all around them and the room shakes every so often from the
subwoofer (you know the type; they review DVDs for Web sites). Wasting
time
and money on any other priority, such as the integrity of the original
mix,
is a fireable offense.

My own technique: I'd put the original track through the center speaker,
then add jungle animal sound effects (even if the film is set in
Manhattan)
to the other four. Every music cue would get synthesized base for the
LFE.

What would you do?

Lincoln
 
Page 1 of 1       All times are GMT - 5 Hours
The time now is Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:56 pm