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| Peter H. |
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 7:07 pm |
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Looks like a must-have for all true CinemaScope fetishists ...
Check out "Down With Love" (2003).
This feature does indeed incorporate the ca. 1954 Fox logo and CinemaScope
Extension ("A CinemaScope Picture", not the earlier "A CinemaScope
Production"), but the Fox Fanfare and its associated CinemaScope Extension
music is not Alfred Newman's, although it is his composition and arrangement of
same.
Most likely the present day rerecording by News Corporation, or whomever owns
Fox.
The News Corporation attribution is supered over the Fox logo. Subtly so, not
"in your face".
Too bad Newman's recording wasn't used. ((((((((( |
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| manitou910 |
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 7:11 pm |
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Peter H. wrote:
Quote: Looks like a must-have for all true CinemaScope fetishists ...
Check out "Down With Love" (2003).
This feature does indeed incorporate the ca. 1954 Fox logo and CinemaScope
Extension ("A CinemaScope Picture", not the earlier "A CinemaScope
Production"), but the Fox Fanfare and its associated CinemaScope Extension
music is not Alfred Newman's, although it is his composition and arrangement of
same.
Most likely the present day rerecording by News Corporation, or whomever owns
Fox.
The News Corporation attribution is supered over the Fox logo. Subtly so, not
"in your face".
Too bad Newman's recording wasn't used.  (((((((((
Also, the movie was filmed in 35mm anamorphic Panavision, not CinemaScope.
ultra-P....: !!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Mike Ackerman |
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 9:07 pm |
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"Peter H." wrote:
Quote:
Looks like a must-have for all true CinemaScope fetishists ...
Check out "Down With Love" (2003).
This feature does indeed incorporate the ca. 1954 Fox logo and CinemaScope
Extension ("A CinemaScope Picture", not the earlier "A CinemaScope
Production"), but the Fox Fanfare and its associated CinemaScope Extension
music is not Alfred Newman's, although it is his composition and arrangement of
same.
Most likely the present day rerecording by News Corporation, or whomever owns
Fox.
The News Corporation attribution is supered over the Fox logo. Subtly so, not
"in your face".
Too bad Newman's recording wasn't used.  (((((((((
Note that Master and Commander has THREE studio logos at the beginning:
Fox, Miramax, and Universal. I can't think of any other similar
bonanzas for studio logo fetishists. Black Hawk Down had quite a few
logos at the beginning, but they were for things like James Cameron's
production company.
Mike Ackerman |
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| Peter H. |
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 10:25 pm |
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Also, the movie was filmed in 35mm anamorphic Panavision, not CinemaScope.
A great many films signed as "A CinemaScope Production"/"A CinemaScope
Picture"/"in CinemaScope"/"CinemaScope"/ad nauseum were shot with Panavision
lenses, many of which were not also signed "Photographic Lenses by Panavision"
(but many were).
That Panavision adopted the technical standards of CinemaScope makes Panavision
the imitator.
But you knew that.
Hmmm, perhaps you didn't.
Well, anyway, the attribution of "A CinemaScope Picture" in "Down With Love" is
an homage to CinemaScope itself, just as the entire film was itself an homage
to the 60s Rock Hudson/Doris Day "bedroom" pictures.
And, just as with those '60s films, the process itself often went before the
title (just as the "name" ... the star ... went before the title ... but after
the process).
Panavision was credited where its contract with the producer required that it
be credited.
End of story. |
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| Lincoln Spector |
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:19 pm |
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Quote: Note that Master and Commander has THREE studio logos at the beginning:
Fox, Miramax, and Universal.
By the time the Universal logo came on, my son and I were snickering. He
began to whisper "RKO! RKO!" (And yes, he stopped immediately when the
picture for real started; he knows his manners.)
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| Morgan Montague |
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:20 pm |
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I thought they blew it with the supered News Corporation attribution. It
worked against the retro styling and feeling they were going for. They
should have just used the old title and the old music. They should have
played it straight. Corporations just can't get over marking their
territory in irritating ways now (e.g., those stupid ghost logos in the
lower right hand corner of my TV's). I should start water marking all my
stuff.
I loved the movie, BTW.
Morgan
"Peter H." <peterh5322@aol.comminch> wrote in message
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Quote:
Looks like a must-have for all true CinemaScope fetishists ...
Check out "Down With Love" (2003).
This feature does indeed incorporate the ca. 1954 Fox logo and CinemaScope
Extension ("A CinemaScope Picture", not the earlier "A CinemaScope
Production"), but the Fox Fanfare and its associated CinemaScope Extension
music is not Alfred Newman's, although it is his composition and
arrangement of
same.
Most likely the present day rerecording by News Corporation, or whomever
owns
Fox.
The News Corporation attribution is supered over the Fox logo. Subtly so,
not
"in your face".
Too bad Newman's recording wasn't used.  (((((((((
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| Mark Hanson |
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:52 pm |
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"Mike Ackerman" <mackermNOSPAM@mailpuppy.com> wrote in message
news:3FCBC9A9.A346E916@mailpuppy.com...
Quote: Note that Master and Commander has THREE studio logos at the beginning:
Fox, Miramax, and Universal. I can't think of any other similar
bonanzas for studio logo fetishists.
This seems to be happening with greater frequency these days as production
costs rise. (At least I assume that's the explanation: sharing the costs.)
What was the earliest example of this? While watching my "Dragonslayer" DVD
I noticed (or was reminded of) and Paramount-Disney collaboration, and that
was from 1981.
Mark |
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| Jim Nason |
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 5:27 pm |
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"Mark Hanson" <myspamhole2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:rb5zb.395154$HS4.3205409@attbi_s01...
Quote: "Mike Ackerman" <mackermNOSPAM@mailpuppy.com> wrote in message
news:3FCBC9A9.A346E916@mailpuppy.com...
Note that Master and Commander has THREE studio logos at the beginning:
Fox, Miramax, and Universal. I can't think of any other similar
bonanzas for studio logo fetishists.
This seems to be happening with greater frequency these days as production
costs rise. (At least I assume that's the explanation: sharing the costs.)
What was the earliest example of this? While watching my "Dragonslayer"
DVD
I noticed (or was reminded of) and Paramount-Disney collaboration, and
that
was from 1981.
Mark
"The Towering Inferno" was produced by Paramount and Twentieth Century Fox,
as I recall.
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| Peter H. |
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:08 am |
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I thought they blew it with the supered News Corporation attribution. It
worked against the retro styling and feeling they were going for. They should
have just used the old title and the old music. They should have played it
straight.
Yup ... the 1954 logo and extension, and Alfred's direction of his score.
From the 3-track original this time, not a 4-track print.
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I loved the movie, BTW.
Me, too.
Generally got good reviews from good reviewers.
I think it was New Yorker mag which said, "easily one of the smartest films of
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| Jeff Joseph |
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 1:55 am |
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| Jeff Kreines |
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 9:47 pm |
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In article <_R3zb.282026$275.999945@attbi_s53>, Morgan Montague
<cinerama@comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: I should start water marking all my
stuff.
My dog does that. |
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| Precode |
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 10:26 pm |
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Mike Ackerman <mackermNOSPAM@mailpuppy.com> wrote in message news:<3FCBC9A9.A346E916@mailpuppy.com>...
Quote: "Peter H." wrote:
Looks like a must-have for all true CinemaScope fetishists ...
Check out "Down With Love" (2003).
This feature does indeed incorporate the ca. 1954 Fox logo and CinemaScope
Extension ("A CinemaScope Picture", not the earlier "A CinemaScope
Production"), but the Fox Fanfare and its associated CinemaScope Extension
music is not Alfred Newman's, although it is his composition and arrangement of
same.
Most likely the present day rerecording by News Corporation, or whomever owns
Fox.
The News Corporation attribution is supered over the Fox logo. Subtly so, not
"in your face".
Too bad Newman's recording wasn't used.  (((((((((
Note that Master and Commander has THREE studio logos at the beginning:
Fox, Miramax, and Universal. I can't think of any other similar
bonanzas for studio logo fetishists. Black Hawk Down had quite a few
logos at the beginning, but they were for things like James Cameron's
production company.
Mike Ackerman
We had four for the 1995 reissue of STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN: Columbia,
Scorsese, Rank, and the Archers. No ShawScope, though.
Mike S. |
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| Precode |
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 10:28 pm |
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"Jim Nason" <jhnason@metrocast.net> wrote in message news:<wfKdnZDKEJA7elGiRVn-vA@metrocast.net>...
Quote: "Mark Hanson" <myspamhole2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:rb5zb.395154$HS4.3205409@attbi_s01...
"Mike Ackerman" <mackermNOSPAM@mailpuppy.com> wrote in message
news:3FCBC9A9.A346E916@mailpuppy.com...
Note that Master and Commander has THREE studio logos at the beginning:
Fox, Miramax, and Universal. I can't think of any other similar
bonanzas for studio logo fetishists.
This seems to be happening with greater frequency these days as production
costs rise. (At least I assume that's the explanation: sharing the costs.)
What was the earliest example of this? While watching my "Dragonslayer"
DVD
I noticed (or was reminded of) and Paramount-Disney collaboration, and
that
was from 1981.
Mark
"The Towering Inferno" was produced by Paramount and Twentieth Century Fox,
as I recall.
Jim Nason
Half-right: Warners and Fox.
Mike S. |
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| manitou910 |
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 11:03 pm |
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Jim Nason wrote:
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"The Towering Inferno" was produced by Paramount and Twentieth Century Fox,
as I recall.
"Titanic" was Paramount and FOX.
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| Bill Kretzel |
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 3:41 am |
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manitou910 (manitou910@rogers.com) writes:
Quote: Jim Nason wrote:
"The Towering Inferno" was produced by Paramount and Twentieth Century Fox,
as I recall.
"Titanic" was Paramount and FOX.
And Bob Fosse's fabulous "All That Jazz" (1979) required the combined
backing of Columbia and 20th Century-Fox. |
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