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RichA...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:35 pm
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BBC:

Manga library planned for Japan

A Tokyo university is planning to open a library to promote serious
study of Japanese manga comics.

The proposed Tokyo International Manga Library will house two million
comic books, animation drawings, video games and other cartoon
industry artefacts.

It is hoped the new library will open by early 2015 at Meiji
University.

"Manga has been taken lightly in the past and there has been no solid
archive for serious study," the university's Susumi Shibao told AFP.

"We want to help academic studies on manga as part of Japanese
culture," she added.

It is anticipated that the library will be made available to
researchers and fans from Japan and abroad.

Initial plans include the opening of the Yoshihiro Yonezawa Memorial
Library of Manga and Subculture at the end of this month.

It will feature the late manga critic Yoshihiro Yonezawa's collection
of 140,000 comic books.

Woodblock prints

Hayao Miyazaki's Oscar-winning film Spirited Away is a classic example
of anime - animation based on manga styles.

Outside Japan, manga comics are mostly associated with science fiction
and fantasy, but manga also encompasses a much wider range of genres -
from high literature to soap operas.

Their characteristic style descends from the popular woodblock prints
common in the 18th and 19th centuries known as ukiyoe, which often
featured humorous depictions of Japanese urban life.

The former Japanese government had set aside 11.7bn yen ($128m, £78m)
for a museum on Japanese cartoon art and pop culture to be built in
Tokyo.

But the plan was axed when the administration was ousted in the
elections in August.
 
Juan F. Lara...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:52 am
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In article <ce8d2e18-bc54-4c64-a54e-1d41e94f9c81 at (no spam) r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
TBerk <bayareaberk at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:


How is this any different than building a place for oil paintings or
sculpture?

Exactly. Manga and anime can be art. 95% of them is crap, just like
most other media. But I think the works of a Tezuka or a Miyazaki are worth
museum preservation.
 
moviePig...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:55 am
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On Oct 25, 11:15 am, RichA <rander3... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 25, 6:33 am, sirblob2 <sirbl... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:



On 25 oct, 01:35, RichA <rander3... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

BBC:

Manga library planned for Japan

A Tokyo university is planning to open a library to promote serious
study of Japanese manga comics.

The proposed Tokyo International Manga Library will house two million
comic books, animation drawings, video games and other cartoon
industry artefacts.

It is hoped the new library will open by early 2015 at Meiji
University.

"Manga has been taken lightly in the past and there has been no solid
archive for serious study," the university's Susumi Shibao told AFP.

"We want to help academic studies on manga as part of Japanese
culture," she added.

It is anticipated that the library will be made available to
researchers and fans from Japan and abroad.

Initial plans include the opening of the Yoshihiro Yonezawa Memorial
Library of Manga and Subculture at the end of this month.

It will feature the late manga critic Yoshihiro Yonezawa's collection
of 140,000 comic books.

Woodblock prints

Hayao Miyazaki's Oscar-winning film Spirited Away is a classic example
of anime - animation based on manga styles.

Outside Japan, manga comics are mostly associated with science fiction
and fantasy, but manga also encompasses a much wider range of genres -
from high literature to soap operas.

Their characteristic style descends from the popular woodblock prints
common in the 18th and 19th centuries known as ukiyoe, which often
featured humorous depictions of Japanese urban life.

The former Japanese government had set aside 11.7bn yen ($128m, £78m)
for a museum on Japanese cartoon art and pop culture to be built in
Tokyo.

But the plan was axed when the administration was ousted in the
elections in August.

you cannot even imagine how popular manga is over there

I try not to, but I wonder what a psychologist might make of the
worship of cartoons that depict their characters as Anglos instead of
Orientals?

You think they should be slit-eyed and bucktoothed like WW2 cartoons?
Afaics, anime tries to be ethnic-neutral... (which would mean any
Anglo-reading is in the round eye of the beholder...)

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nick...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:23 pm
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On Oct 25, 5:55 pm, moviePig <pwall... at (no spam) moviepig.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 25, 11:15 am, RichA <rander3... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On Oct 25, 6:33 am, sirblob2 <sirbl... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

On 25 oct, 01:35, RichA <rander3... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

BBC:

Manga library planned for Japan

A Tokyo university is planning to open a library to promote serious
study of Japanese manga comics.

The proposed Tokyo International Manga Library will house two million
comic books, animation drawings, video games and other cartoon
industry artefacts.

It is hoped the new library will open by early 2015 at Meiji
University.

"Manga has been taken lightly in the past and there has been no solid
archive for serious study," the university's Susumi Shibao told AFP..

"We want to help academic studies on manga as part of Japanese
culture," she added.

It is anticipated that the library will be made available to
researchers and fans from Japan and abroad.

Initial plans include the opening of the Yoshihiro Yonezawa Memorial
Library of Manga and Subculture at the end of this month.

It will feature the late manga critic Yoshihiro Yonezawa's collection
of 140,000 comic books.

Woodblock prints

Hayao Miyazaki's Oscar-winning film Spirited Away is a classic example
of anime - animation based on manga styles.

Outside Japan, manga comics are mostly associated with science fiction
and fantasy, but manga also encompasses a much wider range of genres -
from high literature to soap operas.

Their characteristic style descends from the popular woodblock prints
common in the 18th and 19th centuries known as ukiyoe, which often
featured humorous depictions of Japanese urban life.

The former Japanese government had set aside 11.7bn yen ($128m, £78m)
for a museum on Japanese cartoon art and pop culture to be built in
Tokyo.

But the plan was axed when the administration was ousted in the
elections in August.

you cannot even imagine how popular manga is over there

I try not to, but I wonder what a psychologist might make of the
worship of cartoons that depict their characters as Anglos instead of
Orientals?

You think they should be slit-eyed and bucktoothed like WW2 cartoons?
Afaics, anime tries to be ethnic-neutral... (which would mean any
Anglo-reading is in the round eye of the beholder...)

A quick Google ("why do anime have western eyes" being my illiterate

query) shows a lot of different reasons for the round eyes on anime
characters and a lot of online discussion but the simplest and most
plausible reason is simply that round eyes provide more range of
emotion for an animator, and giving characters different hair colors
rather than standard black is a convenient way to differentiate
between different characters and their different personalities.
 
trotsky...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:49 pm
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RichA wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 25, 6:33 am, sirblob2 <sirbl... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On 25 oct, 01:35, RichA <rander3... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:



BBC:
Manga library planned for Japan
A Tokyo university is planning to open a library to promote serious
study of Japanese manga comics.
The proposed Tokyo International Manga Library will house two million
comic books, animation drawings, video games and other cartoon
industry artefacts.
It is hoped the new library will open by early 2015 at Meiji
University.
"Manga has been taken lightly in the past and there has been no solid
archive for serious study," the university's Susumi Shibao told AFP.
"We want to help academic studies on manga as part of Japanese
culture," she added.
It is anticipated that the library will be made available to
researchers and fans from Japan and abroad.
Initial plans include the opening of the Yoshihiro Yonezawa Memorial
Library of Manga and Subculture at the end of this month.
It will feature the late manga critic Yoshihiro Yonezawa's collection
of 140,000 comic books.
Woodblock prints
Hayao Miyazaki's Oscar-winning film Spirited Away is a classic example
of anime - animation based on manga styles.
Outside Japan, manga comics are mostly associated with science fiction
and fantasy, but manga also encompasses a much wider range of genres -
from high literature to soap operas.
Their characteristic style descends from the popular woodblock prints
common in the 18th and 19th centuries known as ukiyoe, which often
featured humorous depictions of Japanese urban life.
The former Japanese government had set aside 11.7bn yen ($128m, £78m)
for a museum on Japanese cartoon art and pop culture to be built in
Tokyo.
But the plan was axed when the administration was ousted in the
elections in August.
you cannot even imagine how popular manga is over there

I try not to, but I wonder what a psychologist might make of the
worship of cartoons that depict their characters as Anglos instead of
Orientals?


Have you asked the mental health professional that you go to?
 
moviePig...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:48 pm
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On Oct 25, 5:23 pm, nick <nickmacpherso... at (no spam) AOL.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 25, 5:55 pm, moviePig <pwall... at (no spam) moviepig.com> wrote:

On Oct 25, 11:15 am, RichA <rander3... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 25, 6:33 am, sirblob2 <sirbl... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

On 25 oct, 01:35, RichA <rander3... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

BBC:

Manga library planned for Japan

A Tokyo university is planning to open a library to promote serious
study of Japanese manga comics.

The proposed Tokyo International Manga Library will house two million
comic books, animation drawings, video games and other cartoon
industry artefacts.

It is hoped the new library will open by early 2015 at Meiji
University.

"Manga has been taken lightly in the past and there has been no solid
archive for serious study," the university's Susumi Shibao told AFP.

"We want to help academic studies on manga as part of Japanese
culture," she added.

It is anticipated that the library will be made available to
researchers and fans from Japan and abroad.

Initial plans include the opening of the Yoshihiro Yonezawa Memorial
Library of Manga and Subculture at the end of this month.

It will feature the late manga critic Yoshihiro Yonezawa's collection
of 140,000 comic books.

Woodblock prints

Hayao Miyazaki's Oscar-winning film Spirited Away is a classic example
of anime - animation based on manga styles.

Outside Japan, manga comics are mostly associated with science fiction
and fantasy, but manga also encompasses a much wider range of genres -
from high literature to soap operas.

Their characteristic style descends from the popular woodblock prints
common in the 18th and 19th centuries known as ukiyoe, which often
featured humorous depictions of Japanese urban life.

The former Japanese government had set aside 11.7bn yen ($128m, £78m)
for a museum on Japanese cartoon art and pop culture to be built in
Tokyo.

But the plan was axed when the administration was ousted in the
elections in August.

you cannot even imagine how popular manga is over there

I try not to, but I wonder what a psychologist might make of the
worship of cartoons that depict their characters as Anglos instead of
Orientals?

You think they should be slit-eyed and bucktoothed like WW2 cartoons?
Afaics, anime tries to be ethnic-neutral... (which would mean any
Anglo-reading is in the round eye of the beholder...)

A quick Google ("why do anime have western eyes" being my illiterate
query) shows a lot of different reasons for the round eyes on anime
characters and a lot of online discussion but the simplest and most
plausible reason is simply that round eyes provide more range of
emotion for an animator, and giving characters different hair colors
rather than standard black is a convenient way to differentiate
between different characters and their different personalities.

Not to mention which, *nobody's* eyes are round... (except maybe Marty
Feldman's and Buckwheat's...)

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Gill Smith...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:07 pm
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"Flasherly" <Flasherly at (no spam) live.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 25, 1:11 am, TBerk <bayareab... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
How is this any different than building a place for oil paintings or
sculpture?

Your disgust seems to mirror the folks who have the kink, the fetish.
Whats up with that?

berk

Weird to us -- like watching teevee serials of Star Trek might be to
the Japanese. Weirdest part to me was an article I was reading about
manga corner kiosks setup in Tokyo. Pretty big deal was my impression
of popular reinforcement taken from the perspective of only what the
internet offers, there's no denying the presence, though in the
article the Japanese of course are downplaying Tokyo street bums
(indigents) that use them for a place to hang. Weird also in a
futuristic sense to develop as near-distanced scenery for the likes of
science fiction theme. Elevating cartoon stature to sculpture and oil
is stretching the fabric, though. There is that distinction between
fine art and commercialized shit of Warhol or a basketball player, I
recall, slopping aggregates into oil across a canvas for later cutting
apportioned sales out with a chainsaw, a la mode Pollack (whose work
deteriorated, coincidently, because of unsound material construction).

No, no, no. His 'works' can ONLY improve with ageing

the 'shoddier' the construction materials, the quicker the 'art' improves

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TBerk...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:11 pm
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On Oct 26, 6:11 pm, Rich <n... at (no spam) nowhere.com> wrote:
Quote:
TBerk <bayareab... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in news:ce8d2e18-bc54-4c64-a54e-
1d41e94f9... at (no spam) r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com:



How is this any different than building a place for oil paintings or
sculpture?

Nice of your to compare crap aimed (originally) at children as high art!

This is EXACTLY where you get it wrong. Closed minded-nes is
preventing you, based on what I read in your posts mind you, from
understanding what it's all about.

Cartoons are not a children's art form.

Just as there are clothes that fit kids and suits made for grownups,
most every other endeviour has sub-sets.

Its a very big world, full of the icky, the profane, the ignorant, and
depending on how you define it; evil.

It's up to each of us to prevent being icky and evil. Can't do it for
you.


berk
 
Rich...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:11 pm
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TBerk <bayareaberk at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in news:ce8d2e18-bc54-4c64-a54e-
1d41e94f9c81 at (no spam) r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

Quote:


How is this any different than building a place for oil paintings or
sculpture?


Nice of your to compare crap aimed (originally) at children as high art!
 
Madara0806...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:24 am
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On Oct 25, 3:41 am, Flasherly <Flashe... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 25, 1:11 am, TBerk <bayareab... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

How is this any different than building a place for oil paintings or
sculpture?

Your disgust seems to mirror the folks who have the kink, the fetish.
Whats up with that?

berk


\

Quote:
Weird to us -- like watching teevee serials of Star Trek might be to
the Japanese.  

The Japanese watch TV serials as well, including many in the sci-fi
genre. Why would "Star Trek" seem weird to them? I'm sure "Star Trek"
was popular over there as well.
 
trotsky...
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:06 pm
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Tom wrote:

Quote:
One of my fondest childhood memories is of the original Astro Boy. If
that is crap, then Rich is an American.


One of my fondest childhood memories is not even knowing who "Rich" is.
 
TBerk...
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:38 pm
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On Nov 13, 4:59 pm, Rich <n... at (no spam) nowhere.com> wrote:

Quote:
Time to grow up Tom.  


It is a fallacy to lump all things 'cartoons' in with being juvenile.

Your definition, your understanding of it is inadequate. Well, not to
your needs, it seems to server _you_ well.


berk
 
tomcervo...
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:04 pm
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On Nov 13, 7:59 pm, Rich <n... at (no spam) nowhere.com> wrote:
Quote:
Tom <drso... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote innews:9d7ce967-be18-468d-ae3b-56a1cd94d121 at (no spam) n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:



On Oct 26, 8:11 pm, TBerk <bayareab... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Oct 26, 6:11 pm, Rich <n... at (no spam) nowhere.com> wrote:

TBerk <bayareab... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in
news:ce8d2e18-bc54-4c64-a54e-
1d41e94f9... at (no spam) r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

How is this any different than building a place for oil paintings
or sculpture?

Nice of your to compare crap aimed (originally) at children as high
art
!

This is EXACTLY where you get it wrong. Closed minded-nes is
preventing you, based on what I read in your posts mind you, from
understanding what it's all about.

Cartoons are not a children's art form.

Just as there are clothes that fit kids and suits made for grownups,
most every other endeviour has sub-sets.

Its a very big world, full of the icky, the profane, the ignorant,
and depending on how you define it; evil.

It's up to each of us to prevent being icky and evil. Can't do it for
you.

berk

Rich always attacks things he doesn't understand... I'm sure out of
fear and ignorance.

One of my fondest childhood memories is of the original Astro Boy. If
that is crap, then Rich is an American.

Tom

Time to grow up Tom.  

"The George W. Bush Presidential Center is a future complex that will
include former President George W. Bush's presidential library and
museum, the George W. Bush Policy Institute, and the offices of the
George W. Bush Foundation. The facility will occupy roughly 25 acres
(100,000 m2) on the campus of Southern Methodist University in
University Park, Texas. Construction of the center is projected to
begin in late 2010 and cost $200 million to $500 million."
 
Rich...
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:59 pm
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Tom <drsoong at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in
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Quote:
On Oct 26, 8:11 pm, TBerk <bayareab... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Oct 26, 6:11 pm, Rich <n... at (no spam) nowhere.com> wrote:

TBerk <bayareab... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in
news:ce8d2e18-bc54-4c64-a54e-
1d41e94f9... at (no spam) r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

How is this any different than building a place for oil paintings
or sculpture?

Nice of your to compare crap aimed (originally) at children as high
art
!

This is EXACTLY where you get it wrong. Closed minded-nes is
preventing you, based on what I read in your posts mind you, from
understanding what it's all about.

Cartoons are not a children's art form.

Just as there are clothes that fit kids and suits made for grownups,
most every other endeviour has sub-sets.

Its a very big world, full of the icky, the profane, the ignorant,
and depending on how you define it; evil.

It's up to each of us to prevent being icky and evil. Can't do it for
you.

berk

Rich always attacks things he doesn't understand... I'm sure out of
fear and ignorance.

One of my fondest childhood memories is of the original Astro Boy. If
that is crap, then Rich is an American.

Tom


Time to grow up Tom.
 
 
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