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Murnau's "Faust"...

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poisoned rose...
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:20 pm
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Saw this film for the first time yesterday. *Wow*. The best film I've
seen all year, and my tastes aren't necessarily focused on silent film.

I haven't seen "Phantom" yet...I guess that's next!
 
Old Movie Fan...
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:59 pm
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Now that you've seen the devil in "Faust," perhaps you look for other
films with Emil Jannings in them.
Jannings could appear in films just a year apart, and you cannot even
recognize him as the same man. His acting is really quite good.
A year before "Faust," he plays a aging Hotel doorman in "The Last
Laugh" and a year after "Faust" he plays a Russian General in "The Last
Command."

He also did a good job as Othello in the 1922 film.

Rich Wagner
 
poisoned rose...
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:54 pm
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BigMovieFan at (no spam) webtv.net (Old Movie Fan) wrote:

Quote:
Now that you've seen the devil in "Faust," perhaps you look for other
films with Emil Jannings in them.
Jannings could appear in films just a year apart, and you cannot even
recognize him as the same man. His acting is really quite good.
A year before "Faust," he plays a aging Hotel doorman in "The Last
Laugh" and a year after "Faust" he plays a Russian General in "The Last
Command."

He also did a good job as Othello in the 1922 film.

Rich Wagner

I've seen The Last Laugh, and The Last Command is already on my "see"
list.

At this point, these are the big remaining silent films I want to see:

Phantom
The Last Command
Die Nibelungen
Dr. Mabuse: The Gambler
October
Warning Shadows: A Nocturnal Hallucination
Secrets of a Soul
Tartuffe
Spies

A very German list, yes. Smile
 
Old Movie Fan...
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:39 pm
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Quote:
At this point, these are the big remaining silent
films I want to see:

Phantom
The Last Command
Die Nibelungen
Dr. Mabuse: The Gambler
October

Warning Shadows: A Nocturnal Hallucination
Secrets of a Soul
Tartuffe
Spies

A very German list, yes. Smile

I've seen the first five and enjoyed them all, except perhaps
"Phantom." It's watchable, but I wasn't very impressed with the story.
Haven't seen or even heard of the others except for "Spies."

You might also want to check out Fritz Lang's "Woman in the Moon"
(1929), even though it's way too long (nearly three hours), and an hour
of that is pure nonsense.
Still, this is a pretty neat sci-fi picture that foresaw man's voyage
into space.

It's the first time that a countdown had been used anywhere, and the
first stage separation scene in space looks like it came from NASA's
archives. The miniatures are pretty amazing.

Rich Wagner
 
Lloyd Fonvielle...
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:09 pm
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poisoned rose wrote:

Quote:
At this point, these are the big remaining silent films I want to see:

Phantom
The Last Command
Die Nibelungen
Dr. Mabuse: The Gambler
October
Warning Shadows: A Nocturnal Hallucination
Secrets of a Soul
Tartuffe
Spies

A very German list, yes. Smile

I think you'll find "Phantom" a disappointment after "Faust" -- it has
some great images but is probably Murnau's weakest film.

I also found "Warning Shadows" very disappointing -- often incoherent
and, when not incoherent, preposterous. The images are mostly quite
lame, as are the acting and what passes for the story.


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Mar de Cortes Baja

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poisoned rose...
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:12 am
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Lloyd Fonvielle <navigareNOSPAM at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:

Quote:
I think you'll find "Phantom" a disappointment after "Faust" -- it has
some great images but is probably Murnau's weakest film.

I also found "Warning Shadows" very disappointing -- often incoherent
and, when not incoherent, preposterous. The images are mostly quite
lame, as are the acting and what passes for the story.

Hm. Thanks for the...er...warnings.
 
Old Movie Fan...
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:51 am
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If it's Murnau that interests you, don't miss "City Girl."
It's more modern and not a Gothic story like most of the others, but
it is a classic IMO.
 
poisoned rose...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:12 pm
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BigMovieFan at (no spam) webtv.net (Old Movie Fan) wrote:

Quote:
If it's Murnau that interests you, don't miss "City Girl."
It's more modern and not a Gothic story like most of the others, but
it is a classic IMO.

Hm, OK. Don't know much about that one...I'll look it up.

It's not quite a silent, but I saw "L'Atalante" for the first time last
night and thought it was absolutely wonderful.

What happened to this newsgroup, anyway? It was thriving a couple of
years ago...look at the incredible drop-off in volume:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.movies.silent/about

Fell off a cliff at the beginning of 2008, for whatever reason. And
still falling.
 
StormChaser...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:18 pm
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On Oct 25, 10:17 pm, Lloyd Fonvielle <navigareNOS... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote:
poisoned rose wrote:
What happened to this newsgroup, anyway? It was thriving a couple of
years ago...look at the incredible drop-off in volume:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.movies.silent/about

Fell off a cliff at the beginning of 2008, for whatever reason. And
still falling.

Discussions here used to get over-heated and sometimes abusive.  Many
regular posters moved over to Nitrateville:

http://www.nitrateville.com/

Nitrateville is a moderated group, better able to handle the bad manners
that seem to characterize the old guard of the silent film community.

Things have been quieter but also more civil here ever since.

--

Mar de Cortes Baja

www.mardecortesbaja.com<http://www.mardecortesbaja.com/blog

More civil but less fun.

The bluster that would stir up here
from time to time kept things lively.

I would like to think of
those who branched off
as forming their own mental
therapy groups, after all,
those who watch movies
made more that 80 years
ago where the actors
had to communicate intentions
non-verbally and is only brought
alive through proper music
must congregate with
like minds to re-enforce sanity.
 
Lloyd Fonvielle...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:59 pm
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Old Movie Fan wrote:

Quote:
If it's Murnau that interests you, don't miss "City Girl."
It's more modern and not a Gothic story like most of the others, but
it is a classic IMO.

One of the greatest of all silent films.


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Mar de Cortes Baja

www.mardecortesbaja.com <http://www.mardecortesbaja.com/blog>
 
Lloyd Fonvielle...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:17 pm
Guest
poisoned rose wrote:

Quote:
What happened to this newsgroup, anyway? It was thriving a couple of
years ago...look at the incredible drop-off in volume:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.movies.silent/about

Fell off a cliff at the beginning of 2008, for whatever reason. And
still falling.

Discussions here used to get over-heated and sometimes abusive. Many
regular posters moved over to Nitrateville:

http://www.nitrateville.com/

Nitrateville is a moderated group, better able to handle the bad manners
that seem to characterize the old guard of the silent film community.

Things have been quieter but also more civil here ever since.


--



Mar de Cortes Baja

www.mardecortesbaja.com <http://www.mardecortesbaja.com/blog>
 
Old Movie Fan...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:37 pm
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Quote:
From: prose1235 at (no spam) aol.com (poisoned rose)

What happened to this newsgroup, anyway? It
was thriving a couple of years ago...look at
the incredible drop-off in volume:

It's partly seasonal too, as most groups have little participation
other than Winter and early Spring. There's also a cycle where it
reaches a point where most have talked about all these films before (I
know I have).
As you can see, Lloyd and I both think highly of "City Girl," a rare
film to find until only a year ago when it was released as part of a
Murnau set. I've had my copy for years and like Lloyd, it's a favorite
of mine.

Many are still lurking, and willing to respond if they see an
important question raised.
But don't expect them to respond to movie lists (like we are doing
here).

Me? I'll always give advice if I think it might be appreciated.

Rich Wagner
 
Lloyd Fonvielle...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:28 pm
Guest
StormChaser wrote:

Quote:
On Oct 25, 10:17 pm, Lloyd Fonvielle <navigareNOS... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:

Discussions here used to get over-heated and sometimes abusive. Many
regular posters moved over to Nitrateville:

http://www.nitrateville.com/

Nitrateville is a moderated group, better able to handle the bad manners
that seem to characterize the old guard of the silent film community.

Things have been quieter but also more civil here ever since.

www.mardecortesbaja.com<http://www.mardecortesbaja.com/blog

More civil but less fun.

The bluster that would stir up here
from time to time kept things lively.

I agree. I got my share of gratuitous personal insults but never took
them personally, and always appreciated opinions that differed radically
from my own. There seemed to be an element, though, that wanted to
suppress any opinions which violated the common wisdom. It fostered a
kind of clubhouse mentality, which wasn't conducive to a real dialogue
about silent film.


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Mar de Cortes Baja

www.mardecortesbaja.com <http://www.mardecortesbaja.com/blog>
 
Lloyd Fonvielle...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:30 pm
Guest
Old Movie Fan wrote:

Quote:
As you can see, Lloyd and I both think highly of "City Girl," a rare
film to find until only a year ago when it was released as part of a
Murnau set. I've had my copy for years and like Lloyd, it's a favorite
of mine.

I rank it above "Sunrise" -- which I know isn't a common view, but I
really think it's that good.



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Mar de Cortes Baja

www.mardecortesbaja.com <http://www.mardecortesbaja.com/blog>
 
Old Movie Fan...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:29 am
Guest
Quote:
From: navigareNOSPAM at (no spam) cox.net
(Lloyd Fonvielle)

I rank it above "Sunrise" -- which I know isn't a
common view, but I really think it's that good.

Agreed. At least there's no drunken piglet in it (that was Hollywood's
idea, not Murnau's).

Take away that and I see them as equals.

Rich Wagner
 
 
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