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Daeron
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:21 pm
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William H. Gates 111 before Microsoft

... Information Sciences Inc. hired them to program a payroll program ..

... Gates and Allen's next project involved starting another company
entirely on their own, Traf-O-Data. They produced a small computer
which was used to help measure traffic flow. From the project they
grossed around $20,000 ..

... the administration offered him a job computerizing the school's
scheduling system ..

... The defense contractor TRW .. offered Gates and Allen jobs .. and
it was there that Allen and Gates first started talking seriously about
forming their own software company [Wallace, 1992, p. 49-51] ...

Nov 28 2004
http://tinyurl.com/99acs
http://web.archive.org/web/20041128085033/http://ei.cs.vt.edu/~history/Gates.Mirick.html
- unquote -

Luck for bill that Digital didn't patent any source or derivative
rights on the PDP-10 else Microsoft would have never got off the ground.
 
jabailo@texeme.com
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:32 pm
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Daeron wrote:
Quote:
William H. Gates 111 before Microsoft

.. Information Sciences Inc. hired them to program a payroll program ..

.. Gates and Allen's next project involved starting another company
entirely on their own, Traf-O-Data. They produced a small computer
which was used to help measure traffic flow. From the project they
grossed around $20,000 ..

.. the administration offered him a job computerizing the school's
scheduling system ..

.. The defense contractor TRW .. offered Gates and Allen jobs .. and
it was there that Allen and Gates first started talking seriously about
forming their own software company [Wallace, 1992, p. 49-51] ...

Nov 28 2004
http://tinyurl.com/99acs
http://web.archive.org/web/20041128085033/http://ei.cs.vt.edu/~history/Gates.Mirick.html
- unquote -

Luck for bill that Digital didn't patent any source or derivative
rights on the PDP-10 else Microsoft would have never got off the ground.


Why do people spend so much time discussing these idiots.

--
Texeme
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billwg
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:05 pm
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<jabailo@texeme.com> wrote in message news:42ADDF4C.7060905@texeme.com...
Quote:
Daeron wrote:
William H. Gates 111 before Microsoft

.. Information Sciences Inc. hired them to program a payroll program ..

.. Gates and Allen's next project involved starting another company
entirely on their own, Traf-O-Data. They produced a small computer
which was used to help measure traffic flow. From the project they
grossed around $20,000 ..

.. the administration offered him a job computerizing the school's
scheduling system ..

.. The defense contractor TRW .. offered Gates and Allen jobs .. and
it was there that Allen and Gates first started talking seriously about
forming their own software company [Wallace, 1992, p. 49-51] ...

Nov 28 2004
http://tinyurl.com/99acs
http://web.archive.org/web/20041128085033/http://ei.cs.vt.edu/~history/Gates.Mirick.html
- unquote -

Luck for bill that Digital didn't patent any source or derivative
rights on the PDP-10 else Microsoft would have never got off the ground.


Why do people spend so much time discussing these idiots.

Hardly "idiots", John. Extremely effective entrepreneurs.
 
jabailo@texeme.com
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:17 pm
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billwg wrote:

Quote:
Hardly "idiots", John. Extremely effective entrepreneurs.

When does having your Mom wrangle a contract from IBM make you an
'entreprenuer'?

I would call them 'inheritors' -- nothing more.

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http://www.texeme.com
 
billwg
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:07 am
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<jabailo@texeme.com> wrote in message
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billwg wrote:

Hardly "idiots", John. Extremely effective entrepreneurs.

When does having your Mom wrangle a contract from IBM make you an
'entreprenuer'?

I would call them 'inheritors' -- nothing more.

You can call them what you want, John, but that is not as compelling as what

Warren Buffett might think, eh?

I don't know any specifics, but I am sure that IBM provided hundreds if not
tens of thousands of $20K sized contracts to other companies in the same
timeframe as the contract for PC-DOS. Where are these companies today? As
to Ms Gates influence on the process, I think that has been shown to be
pretty much of an urban legend. It is popular with the anti-MS crowd in
their never ending petty attempts to denegrate Gates' success, but doesn't
appear to be very true.
 
jabailo@texeme.com
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:39 am
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billwg wrote:

Quote:
I don't know any specifics, but I am sure that IBM provided hundreds if
not tens of thousands of $20K sized contracts to other companies in the
same
timeframe as the contract for PC-DOS. Where are these companies today?
As to Ms Gates influence on the process, I think that has been shown to be
pretty much of an urban legend. It is popular with the anti-MS crowd in
their never ending petty attempts to denegrate Gates' success, but doesn't
appear to be very true.


Drink up, billwg. Drink up:

http://www.kraftfoods.com/koolaid/

--
Texeme Textcasting Technology
http://www.texeme.com
 
billwg
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:28 am
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<jabailo@texeme.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
billwg wrote:

I don't know any specifics, but I am sure that IBM provided hundreds if
not tens of thousands of $20K sized contracts to other companies in the
same
timeframe as the contract for PC-DOS. Where are these companies today?
As to Ms Gates influence on the process, I think that has been shown to
be
pretty much of an urban legend. It is popular with the anti-MS crowd in
their never ending petty attempts to denegrate Gates' success, but
doesn't
appear to be very true.


Drink up, billwg. Drink up:

http://www.kraftfoods.com/koolaid/

I'll accept your surrender, John! Better luck next time.
 
jabailo@texeme.com
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:28 am
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billwg wrote:
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jabailo@texeme.com> wrote in message
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billwg wrote:


I don't know any specifics, but I am sure that IBM provided hundreds if
not tens of thousands of $20K sized contracts to other companies in the
same
timeframe as the contract for PC-DOS. Where are these companies today?
As to Ms Gates influence on the process, I think that has been shown to
be
pretty much of an urban legend. It is popular with the anti-MS crowd in
their never ending petty attempts to denegrate Gates' success, but
doesn't
appear to be very true.


Drink up, billwg. Drink up:

http://www.kraftfoods.com/koolaid/


I'll accept your surrender, John! Better luck next time.



Nice gainsay.

But it doesn't change the facts.

They are /inheritors/ not /entreprenuers/.

That fact that they have to pay you to troll this newsgroup and make
their case even at this level is tribute to the pitifulness of Microsoft.
 
billwg
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:39 pm
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<jabailo@texeme.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
billwg wrote:
jabailo@texeme.com> wrote in message
news:saKdnana36eRQzPfRVn-iw@speakeasy.net...

billwg wrote:


I don't know any specifics, but I am sure that IBM provided hundreds if
not tens of thousands of $20K sized contracts to other companies in the
same
timeframe as the contract for PC-DOS. Where are these companies today?
As to Ms Gates influence on the process, I think that has been shown to
be
pretty much of an urban legend. It is popular with the anti-MS crowd in
their never ending petty attempts to denegrate Gates' success, but
doesn't
appear to be very true.


Drink up, billwg. Drink up:

http://www.kraftfoods.com/koolaid/


I'll accept your surrender, John! Better luck next time.

Nice gainsay.

But it doesn't change the facts.

Well the facts are that you put up some nonsense about KoolAid instead of a

rational argument. That seems to mean that you are out of aces, eh?

Quote:
They are /inheritors/ not /entreprenuers/.

Sure, John, sure! $274B market cap all inherited from a rich daddy. Why is

linux so broke?

Quote:
That fact that they have to pay you to troll this newsgroup and make their
case even at this level is tribute to the pitifulness of Microsoft.

Do you really believe that? If you do, there is little hope for you! You

will be standing around the rest of your life worried about the next boogie
man, never knowing how to take control of your fate.
 
billwg
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:27 am
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"Jim" <james@the-computer-shop.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quote:
mallloc wrote:
snip
Its about Gates throwing a tantum because IBM has the temerity to put
SmartSuite and OS/2 on the IBM PC. Which could correctly be described as
belonging to IBM as it was them who hired Microsoft to write an OS for
the IBM PC in the first place.

snip

Right. And where would Microsoft be now if IBM had said to them, "Okay, we
don't want your steenkin' ripoff platform anyway! We'll use OS/2 and
Smartsuite, and fsck you and the horse you rode in on!"

The DOJ's theory of the case was that IBM could not make that threat since

they would have lost most of their PC business. IBM's Norris claimed to
have the same assessment. I don't think you have been paying attention,
Jim!
 
Larry Qualig
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:26 am
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"Jim" <james@the-computer-shop.co.uk> wrote in message
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Right. And where would Microsoft be now if IBM had said to them, "Okay, we
don't want your steenkin' ripoff platform anyway! We'll use OS/2 and
Smartsuite, and fsck you and the horse you rode in on!"


Another way to look at this would be to say "where would all those users be
who bought IBM microchannel computers on them with OS/2." These guys would
have useless computers with an equally worthless OS/2 operating system.

By the time OS/2 came along Msft already dominated the desktop market with
DOS. OS/2 was too little too late to change anything.
 
 
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