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RodMcKay...
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:45 pm
 
I passed desperation a long time ago. I've not been able to get away
from Windows simply for the handful of programs that work
exceptionally well for me _despite_ being Windows-based. I
unfortunately can't find a decent replacement for Outlook or Excel, as
the major commercial apps. Lesson learned. You learn something too
well and use it to a point most people don't and that _can_ leave you
in a lurch when trying to use something that doesn't use them natively
(Linux, in this case).

There are also about a dozen Windows apps that I seem to not be able
to live without. If I could afford a netbook with Windows on it where
I'd use those apps there and just would transfer results to my "real",
Linux-based computer, I'd probably do that. But I can't afford that.

It would still leave me without Outlook and Excel, which I use too
much. As good as Thunderbird is, etc., it just can't do some things
and it's clunky in other things. Whatever other issues there may be
with Outlook that so many other people have (I don't), it's very
streamlined and does everything whereas if you're trying to replace
it, you need to come up with a couple of apps to do what it does and
not even as well.

All that venting to say, I stumbled upon this today:
http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/29/how-to-run-microsoft-outlook-natively-on-linux-using-virtualbox/
but it was written in 2007.

After trying Evolution today and just not being happy with it, either,
the lure of running those currently irreplaceable Windows apps with
Virtualbox in Linux is very, very tempting -- if it works. Then I can
just wait till some kind soul gets around to writing something for
Linux exclusively that will replace the Windows apps. So once I've
converted over to Linux, using Virtualbox I could sit nice and tight
and wait for the time when I can fully start weaning myself from
Windows completely.

But how does the above Virtualbox solution look to everyone? WINE has
never sounded like the solution to me. Yet I've done a lot of work in
virtual apps already, even though in Windows, so I'm quite familiar
with the concept. I've virtualized a few apps that just didn't work
well any other way besides fully installing including commercial
software I've bought - simply because in any given Windows
installation, I crash this machine regularly. My record is one month
but I must admit I was testing freeware harder during that time than
usual. On average, my system corrupts in about 6 months when I'm
going easy on the testing. I learned long ago to "convert" my apps to
standalones. Then I began quests for portables (once I started using
usb stick at work) and ultimately, virtualized a small handful of apps
because I just am so fed up with the Window$ problem.

I'm not going to be able to change my personality any time soon, I
know this. Whenever I have a new regular computer chore to do, I find
an app to do it with, geared specifically to that purpose. Since I
like speed, efficiency and portability or at least a "standaloneness"
so that I'm not having to install a lot of apps after each computer
wipe, hence why my Windows installations don't last nearly as long as
regular folks' do.

So here are the 2 questions I have:

1. How does Virtualbox fare when dealing with apps like Outlook and
Excel? Are virtualized apps a good Linux solution?

2. Power users like me who test up to a couple dozen new apps when
looking for new software, despite Linux claims, will we remain with a
good, uncorrupted system for very long? I'd be happy to have a
hassle-free system even for as little as one freaking year!! I drag
out wiping/reinstalling Windows for up to 6 months or more (whatever I
can get away with each time) but often suffer seriously for it with
bugginess, etc.

Pls advise and thanks so much. It's great that even though desperate,
I have the patience of Job because I have wanted to install Linux
forever now! ::sigh:: It's just not wanting a break in my
productivity. Window$ imposes that enough on me already as it is!

Thanks.
 
David W. Hodgins...
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:45 pm
 
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:45:58 -0400, RodMcKay <NoJunkMail at (no spam) no.com> wrote:

Quote:
1. How does Virtualbox fare when dealing with apps like Outlook and
Excel? Are virtualized apps a good Linux solution?

It's running in a windows environment (windows doesn't know it's
running in a vm), so it works just as well (or just as poorly),
as it does on a physical computer.

Quote:
2. Power users like me who test up to a couple dozen new apps when
looking for new software, despite Linux claims, will we remain with a
good, uncorrupted system for very long? I'd be happy to have a

Depends on if you stick to the package manager provided with the
distribution, or manually install things yourself.

Note that with any m$ software in a vm, it will be considered to
be on a separate computer, so you may run into licensing issues.

See the thread
http://groups.google.ca/group/misc.news.internet.discuss/browse_thread/thread/78eb5ac5121e0a61/9ef8c8254838049d?q=group:misc.news.internet.discuss

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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...
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:15 am
 
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:45:58 -0500, RodMcKay <NoJunkMail at (no spam) No.com>
wrote:

Quote:
I passed desperation a long time ago. I've not been able to get away
from Windows simply for the handful of programs that work
exceptionally well for me _despite_ being Windows-based. I
unfortunately can't find a decent replacement for Outlook or Excel, as
the major commercial apps. Lesson learned. You learn something too
well and use it to a point most people don't and that _can_ leave you
in a lurch when trying to use something that doesn't use them natively
(Linux, in this case).

There are also about a dozen Windows apps that I seem to not be able
to live without. If I could afford a netbook with Windows on it where
I'd use those apps there and just would transfer results to my "real",
Linux-based computer, I'd probably do that. But I can't afford that.

<snip>

I keep asking myself why Linux has not yet come out with a distro that
can directly run Windows apps. Linux has at least 100 distros
(probably more), but yet no one has come out with a distro for users
like you and I, who simply are not willing to relearn everything on
the computer. I want to USE my computer, not spend years relearning
everything. I have used Agent, Eudora, Paint Shop Pro, Winzip,
Winamp, and numerous other apps for many years. I'm just not ready to
start over. I dont mind learning a new OS, but not everything. I
still use Win98 and Win2km because I refuse to deal with the MS
activation crap, especially since I am constantly changing my
hardware, and thus I'd be reactivating weekly. No thanks.

Its not just that, but for example, I program in Winamp. There is
nothing else that will run what I have programmed, and I'm not going
to toss years of programming.

I installed several linux distros. Some were easier to learn than
others, but when it came to actually using the Linux computer, I was
at a loss. I had a computer that was fun to look at the new desktop
and play with the OS, but I coud not do anything useful on it. About
all I did was go on the web with the Linux Firefox. After that, I
shut it off and went back to my windows computer.

If the Linux designers really want to make a useful distro, make one
that directly runs Windows Apps.
 
Bud...
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:29 pm
 
On 2010-04-04, someplace at (no spam) someone.com wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:45:58 -0500, RodMcKay
wrote:

I passed desperation a long time ago. I've not been able to get away
from Windows simply for the handful of programs that work
exceptionally well for me _despite_ being Windows-based. I
unfortunately can't find a decent replacement for Outlook or Excel, as
the major commercial apps. Lesson learned. You learn something too
well and use it to a point most people don't and that _can_ leave you
in a lurch when trying to use something that doesn't use them natively
(Linux, in this case).

There are also about a dozen Windows apps that I seem to not be able
to live without. If I could afford a netbook with Windows on it where
I'd use those apps there and just would transfer results to my "real",
Linux-based computer, I'd probably do that. But I can't afford that.

snip

I keep asking myself why Linux has not yet come out with a distro that
can directly run Windows apps. Linux has at least 100 distros
(probably more), but yet no one has come out with a distro for users
like you and I, who simply are not willing to relearn everything on
the computer. I want to USE my computer, not spend years relearning
everything. I have used Agent, Eudora, Paint Shop Pro, Winzip,
Winamp, and numerous other apps for many years. I'm just not ready to
start over. I dont mind learning a new OS, but not everything. I
still use Win98 and Win2km because I refuse to deal with the MS
activation crap, especially since I am constantly changing my
hardware, and thus I'd be reactivating weekly. No thanks.

Its not just that, but for example, I program in Winamp. There is
nothing else that will run what I have programmed, and I'm not going
to toss years of programming.

I installed several linux distros. Some were easier to learn than
others, but when it came to actually using the Linux computer, I was
at a loss. I had a computer that was fun to look at the new desktop
and play with the OS, but I coud not do anything useful on it. About
all I did was go on the web with the Linux Firefox. After that, I
shut it off and went back to my windows computer.

If the Linux designers really want to make a useful distro, make one
that directly runs Windows Apps.

Oh, get out of here, you are in the wrong Usenet group, a-hole.
--
Bud
 
TJ...
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:18 pm
 
On 04/04/2010 10:15 AM, someplace at (no spam) someone.com wrote:
Quote:

I keep asking myself why Linux has not yet come out with a distro that
can directly run Windows apps.

Where have you been that you never heard of patents, copyrights, and
proprietary code? While it may be possible to reverse-engineer the parts
of a Windows app that make it a Windows app and write Linux code to do
some of the same things, it is a lengthy, difficult, and imperfect
process at best. It is often much easier - and better - to just program
something from scratch.

TJ
--
There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
 
sid...
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:24 am
 
someplace at (no spam) someone.com wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:45:58 -0500, RodMcKay <NoJunkMail at (no spam) No.com
wrote:

I passed desperation a long time ago. I've not been able to get away
from Windows simply for the handful of programs that work
exceptionally well for me _despite_ being Windows-based. I
unfortunately can't find a decent replacement for Outlook or Excel, as
the major commercial apps. Lesson learned. You learn something too
well and use it to a point most people don't and that _can_ leave you
in a lurch when trying to use something that doesn't use them natively
(Linux, in this case).

There are also about a dozen Windows apps that I seem to not be able
to live without. If I could afford a netbook with Windows on it where
I'd use those apps there and just would transfer results to my "real",
Linux-based computer, I'd probably do that. But I can't afford that.

snip

I keep asking myself why Linux has not yet come out with a distro that
can directly run Windows apps. Linux has at least 100 distros
(probably more), but yet no one has come out with a distro for users
like you and I, who simply are not willing to relearn everything on
the computer. I want to USE my computer, not spend years relearning
everything. I have used Agent, Eudora, Paint Shop Pro, Winzip,
Winamp, and numerous other apps for many years. I'm just not ready to
start over. I dont mind learning a new OS, but not everything. I
still use Win98 and Win2km because I refuse to deal with the MS
activation crap, especially since I am constantly changing my
hardware, and thus I'd be reactivating weekly. No thanks.

Its not just that, but for example, I program in Winamp. There is
nothing else that will run what I have programmed, and I'm not going
to toss years of programming.

I installed several linux distros. Some were easier to learn than
others, but when it came to actually using the Linux computer, I was
at a loss. I had a computer that was fun to look at the new desktop
and play with the OS, but I coud not do anything useful on it. About
all I did was go on the web with the Linux Firefox. After that, I
shut it off and went back to my windows computer.

If the Linux designers really want to make a useful distro, make one
that directly runs Windows Apps.



If linux was like windows I for one would not be using it. If you want
to use windows, go right ahead, but wishing linux to be like windows is
like wishing an aston martin to be like a robin reliant.

I liked winamp 2.95, but is it the only media player? It may be the
nicest to use in windows, but it certainly isn't as useful to me as
amarok 1.4 in linux. The only thing I find linux will not do as well as
windows is play games (and it can actually play a few of them just as
well) but since I got an xbox I no longer need windows on my PC.

Relying on winzip is just ridiculous, even more recent versions of
windows have that functionality built in, for zips, while linux has tar,
gzip, bzip, rar, et al.
 
RodMcKay...
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:43 pm
 
On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:34:02 +0000, sid <nospam at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

Quote:
The ony way I run windows (XP and now 7) on my machines nowdays is in a
VM. I can run anything I want just as if it were a 'real' install, bar
3d games of course. My PC is 64bit, I built about 4 years ago, it does
not have hardware virtualisation, but still runs fine. Once you have the
VM running on fullscreen, you won't even see any difference, it will to
all intents an purposes be a windows machine until you want to close it
or it crashses, at which point your PC will still be running perfectly
well with linux.

Since you may have virtualized programs as you seem to have some
experience with this whole VM issue, can we run said virtualized
programs without running the machine?

I played around with some VM sw some time back and I could run it and
then run programs in it, or I could install the programs, customize
them then package them up as standalones, i.e., my old and trustworthy
WordPerfect 8 that I've had forever (must have bought it 10-12 years
ago now <g>). And it runs without my having to fire up anything other
than launching the executable.

Is this feasible even in Linux?

I put my Fedora11 LiveCD in this afternoon and tried to launch the WP8
executable but I didn't get far as I don't know what Linux needs to
run an EXE file ...

[snip]

Quote:
There really is no need to put up with microsoft's continual hassle of
crashing machines and reinstalls. As other posters have pointed out,
once you have the snapshot, you can reload back to a pristine fresh
install with a couple of mouse clicks, you can have as many snapshots as

[snip]

Yeah, except it's never worked. Don't ask me why, but I've always had
a fail during the operation. And I've tried, believe me, I can't even
get the snapshot created. I'm fed up with Window$ anyway, so this
point is moot. I started looking into Linux 2 years ago but it's
taken me this long to understand it enough to consider working with it
as my OS of choice now. We'll see how that goes.

[snip]

Thanks, Sid.
 
RodMcKay...
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:52 pm
 
On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 09:15:56 -0500, someplace at (no spam) someone.com wrote:

Quote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:45:58 -0500, RodMcKay <NoJunkMail at (no spam) No.com
wrote:

I passed desperation a long time ago. I've not been able to get away
from Windows simply for the handful of programs that work
exceptionally well for me _despite_ being Windows-based. I
unfortunately can't find a decent replacement for Outlook or Excel, as
the major commercial apps. Lesson learned. You learn something too
well and use it to a point most people don't and that _can_ leave you
in a lurch when trying to use something that doesn't use them natively
(Linux, in this case).

There are also about a dozen Windows apps that I seem to not be able
to live without. If I could afford a netbook with Windows on it where
I'd use those apps there and just would transfer results to my "real",
Linux-based computer, I'd probably do that. But I can't afford that.

snip

I keep asking myself why Linux has not yet come out with a distro that
can directly run Windows apps. Linux has at least 100 distros
(probably more), but yet no one has come out with a distro for users
like you and I, who simply are not willing to relearn everything on
the computer. I want to USE my computer, not spend years relearning
everything. I have used Agent, Eudora, Paint Shop Pro, Winzip,
Winamp, and numerous other apps for many years. I'm just not ready to
start over. I dont mind learning a new OS, but not everything. I
still use Win98 and Win2km because I refuse to deal with the MS
activation crap, especially since I am constantly changing my
hardware, and thus I'd be reactivating weekly. No thanks.

I do so hear you!! I've moved through several OS but I didn't have so
much to learn during any of that or even when I got on my first
computer when I was already 25!

Quote:
Its not just that, but for example, I program in Winamp. There is
nothing else that will run what I have programmed, and I'm not going
to toss years of programming.

<sigh> I hear you. I do tons of stuff, too. But I HATE Window$
something awful. That's the trouble <g>.

Quote:
I installed several linux distros. Some were easier to learn than
others, but when it came to actually using the Linux computer, I was
at a loss. I had a computer that was fun to look at the new desktop
and play with the OS, but I coud not do anything useful on it. About
all I did was go on the web with the Linux Firefox. After that, I
shut it off and went back to my windows computer.

Well, I know I won't have that problem. I _will_ learn Linux and
I'll do well. I'm much more receptive to it than I ever was to
Window$. I prefer the whole concept of open source to begin with esp.
since I paid a fortune for apps in the beginning that don't work
anywhere nearly as well as some of the freeware apps I've found over
the years, just to give an example.

Yet I still have 4 or 5 boxes of _expensive_ obsolete software that I
refuse to get rid of till I find a way to easily find a person who
needs it (you're not the only one who doesn't upgrade) and who'd love
to get their hands on an older version.

Quote:
If the Linux designers really want to make a useful distro, make one
that directly runs Windows Apps.

<sigh> I'm not sure that's possible. Wouldn't it also defeat the
purpose?

I personally don't want Window$ anymore. I want open source all the
way. However, it's just to get through the transition period as
painlessly as possible.

Well, time will tell. At least today Linux is a hell of a lot easier
to work with than it was when I first tried out a live CD that a
colleague gave me as a gift (great gift).
 
RodMcKay...
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:05 pm
 
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:24:10 +0100, sid <nospam at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


[snip]

Quote:
amarok 1.4 in linux. The only thing I find linux will not do as well as
windows is play games (and it can actually play a few of them just as
well) but since I got an xbox I no longer need windows on my PC.

[snip]

I'm lucky there. I'm not a games person. I don't have the time or
inclination ... besides all those fancy games seem to be able blowing
people and things up which I really don't have the inclination for
<lol>. No offense intended and I'm sure there are good, non-violent
games out there, too.

But I'm a more boring type of person. I have a handful of board game
types of affairs but they're years old and I know they'll probably do
alright on Linux since they're not resource hogs or anything. I'm
talking about things like different solitaires, gin rummy, mahjongg,
scrabble, etc. And I don't use them much anyway. Who has the
time?????

So I'm only concerned with the specialized apps I use which I
unfortunately use every day.

I wish I were the type of person that just used the computer to check
for emails every once in a while and surfed the net a bit. Most of my
family is that way. I wouldn't be having the problems I am. But
it'll be a thing of the past soon.
 
sid...
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:07 pm
 
RodMcKay wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:34:02 +0000, sid <nospam at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]


Since you may have virtualized programs as you seem to have some
experience with this whole VM issue, can we run said virtualized
programs without running the machine?

I played around with some VM sw some time back and I could run it and
then run programs in it, or I could install the programs, customize
them then package them up as standalones, i.e., my old and trustworthy
WordPerfect 8 that I've had forever (must have bought it 10-12 years
ago now <g>). And it runs without my having to fire up anything other
than launching the executable.

Is this feasible even in Linux?

I put my Fedora11 LiveCD in this afternoon and tried to launch the WP8
executable but I didn't get far as I don't know what Linux needs to
run an EXE file ...


I either run the apps under WINE, which allows windows exes and dlls to
be used in linux, or if they are big apps that just don't want to run in
linux using WINE then I use either XP on a VM or lately, windows 7 in a VM.

I have no idea how you would run just one application in a VM, the whole
point of VMs as far as I knew was to run guest operating systems.

Quote:
[snip]


[snip]

Yeah, except it's never worked. Don't ask me why, but I've always had
a fail during the operation. And I've tried, believe me, I can't even
get the snapshot created. I'm fed up with Window$ anyway, so this
point is moot. I started looking into Linux 2 years ago but it's
taken me this long to understand it enough to consider working with it
as my OS of choice now. We'll see how that goes.

[snip]


How were you creating snapshots? Which virtual machine software were you
using? I have used VMware, Sun VirtualBox (I use that the most) and 1 or
2 others which name escapes me at this time of the morning.

I have had many more problems running XP within XP on a vm (at college,
we don't have full access to things like cmd.exe, so to work with that
for setting up wifi networks, ping, etc. we have to use virtual installs
of XP) than I have had with linux running XP, but that may well be
because I am using sun virtual box on my own machines and the college
are using VMware and are using a different XP install than I use at home.

Making snapshots at home was as easy as a couple of mouse clicks, I have
not made a huge amount because I don't need to, my windows needs are
very limited, and also because it would just be a bit of a waste of disk
space to have endless snapshots.

What is it that is irreplaceable in wordperfect8? I have not used
wordperfect in years and cannot remember it, even my MS office use is
tiny. Any windows machines I do use that I have control over, I use open
office, not MS office.


sid
 
sid...
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:19 pm
 
RodMcKay wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:24:10 +0100, sid <nospam at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


[snip]

amarok 1.4 in linux. The only thing I find linux will not do as well as
windows is play games (and it can actually play a few of them just as
well) but since I got an xbox I no longer need windows on my PC.

[snip]

I'm lucky there. I'm not a games person. I don't have the time or
inclination ... besides all those fancy games seem to be able blowing
people and things up which I really don't have the inclination for
lol>. No offense intended and I'm sure there are good, non-violent
games out there, too.

But I'm a more boring type of person. I have a handful of board game
types of affairs but they're years old and I know they'll probably do
alright on Linux since they're not resource hogs or anything. I'm
talking about things like different solitaires, gin rummy, mahjongg,
scrabble, etc. And I don't use them much anyway. Who has the
time?????

So I'm only concerned with the specialized apps I use which I
unfortunately use every day.

I wish I were the type of person that just used the computer to check
for emails every once in a while and surfed the net a bit. Most of my
family is that way. I wouldn't be having the problems I am. But
it'll be a thing of the past soon.


there are stacks of those kind of games on linux, cards, chess, etc. i
have 3 or 4 chess ones on mine, and mrs has sudoku on her laptop
(running opensuse 11.1 and mint 7 KDE dual boot).

the specialised apps, the nearest I would have to that would be tomtom
home... despite the fact the tomtom actually runs linux (as do a few
satnavs and most routers) they still have not made a linux version of
the software used to update maps etc, so I run windows in a VM, with
tomtom home installed on that and update my tomtom that way.

That's about the last bit of software I have not found a linux
equivalent for, since I gave up repairing my own windows XP a couple of
years ago and used the space for something more useful.

sid
 
Jon Solberg...
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:28 pm
 
On 2010-04-06, TJ <TJ at (no spam) noneofyour.business> wrote:
Quote:
On 04/05/2010 05:37 PM, RodMcKay wrote:

Looking forward to Linux. I've kept up the reading though I haven't
yet taken the plunge. Still confusing as hell but I feel more
confident now. I just know I'll run into problems esp. since I have
an Nvidia card which seems to give no ends of headaches but I'm going
to take the plunge soon.


I've used four different nVidia cards with Mandriva Linux with no
problems. But, I let the Mandriva GUI install the proprietary drivers
from nVidia for me.

It worked great already back when Mandriva was Mandrake to. FWIIW.

--
Jon Solberg (remove "nospam." from email address)
 
TJ...
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:28 pm
 
On 04/05/2010 05:37 PM, RodMcKay wrote:

Quote:
Looking forward to Linux. I've kept up the reading though I haven't
yet taken the plunge. Still confusing as hell but I feel more
confident now. I just know I'll run into problems esp. since I have
an Nvidia card which seems to give no ends of headaches but I'm going
to take the plunge soon.


I've used four different nVidia cards with Mandriva Linux with no
problems. But, I let the Mandriva GUI install the proprietary drivers
from nVidia for me.

TJ
--
There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
 
J.O. Aho...
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:45 pm
 
RodMcKay wrote:

Quote:
Snapshots have never worked, though.

Snapshot works fine in VBox.


Quote:
I did test it out today. I tried to run my old WordPerfect 8 which I
made into a runnable package and that works in Window$ XP without
installing, but I couldn't figure out how to get Linux to run it.

Running "apps" in Linux will require you to use wine or some of the forks of
that project.

wine <microsoft exe>

This has nothing to do with Virtualization.
Virtualization requires you to do a OS installation and then install the
application in the virtual environment.


Quote:
If a WM machine will run an app, I got to thinking that a
"virtualized" app should run anywhere, maybe, without having a virtual
machine running at the same time. But I don't know.

We have noticed that you don't.


Quote:
I'd still need VirtualBox to create the runnable versions but then
wouldn't need it till I needed to virtualize one of my old programs
I'll probably find I might need down the road.

You don't have a clue about what Virtualization is and it feels like you don't
read what people tell you, but just make up something in your mind and then
think that you are right. No you can't make a "virtual application package",
you need a "virtual application" like VBox which runs an OS and in that OS it
runs you install the applications you want to run. You then have your host OS
(Linux) where you have a "windows" which looks like the guest OS (microsoft)
desktop, where you see all your applications as windows in the window.


--

//Aho
 
Jon Solberg...
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:07 am
 
On 2010-04-06, TJ <TJ at (no spam) noneofyour.business> wrote:
Quote:
On 04/06/2010 02:28 AM, Jon Solberg wrote:
On 2010-04-06, TJ<TJ at (no spam) noneofyour.business> wrote:

I've used four different nVidia cards with Mandriva Linux with no
problems. But, I let the Mandriva GUI install the proprietary
drivers from nVidia for me.

It worked great already back when Mandriva was Mandrake to. FWIIW.

[...] Ah, those were the days...

No, they weren't! ;-)

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Jon Solberg (remove "nospam." from email address)
 
 
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