I've gotten into the habit, on my desktop box, of getting rid of Firefox
in the system and installing it in /home/$ME/bin. This way, upgrading is
easy since the Mozilla folk are designing it that way. I do the same
with OpenOffice and Thunderbird.

Are these essential packages in Slack? Perhaps the size of the release
could be pared a little bit by excluding them?

I may be a rare case though. How do you guys handle these particularly
easy to get programs?

Do you have multiple users on many of your Slack boxen? The kind that
use these sort of desktop apps?

I've gotten into the habit, on my desktop box, of getting rid of Firefox
in the system and installing it in /home/$ME/bin. This way, upgrading is
easy since the Mozilla folk are designing it that way. I do the same
with OpenOffice and Thunderbird.

I've gotten into the habit, on my desktop box, of getting rid of Firefox
in the system and installing it in /home/$ME/bin. This way, upgrading is
easy since the Mozilla folk are designing it that way. I do the same
with OpenOffice and Thunderbird.

Are these essential packages in Slack? Perhaps the size of the release
could be pared a little bit by excluding them?

I may be a rare case though. How do you guys handle these particularly
easy to get programs? Do you have multiple users on many of your Slack
boxen? The kind that use these sort of desktop apps?

I do not have multiple users, but the other benefit of doing it this way
is (obviously) that each user doesn't have to manage his own updates,
especially if they are not able to do such things...

On 2009-11-04, Dan C <youmustbejoking at (no spam) lan.invalid> wrote:

I do not have multiple users, but the other benefit of doing it this
way is (obviously) that each user doesn't have to manage his own
updates, especially if they are not able to do such things...

...or if one just likes to use multiple user accts, which I do.

That's always been one of the attractions of *nix for me. It's easy to
customize different accts to one's preferences. I've got my online
acct, business acct, ebay acct, graphics acct, etc, each with different
browser prefs, desktops, dirs, files, etc. Installing software globally
makes for easy maint, while individual accts allows more granular
customization. It's similar to using multiple workspaces, yet in some
cases, handier and easier to manage.

On 2009-11-04, Handover Phist <jason at (no spam) jason.websterscafe.com> wrote:
I've gotten into the habit, on my desktop box, of getting rid of Firefox
in the system and installing it in /home/$ME/bin. This way, upgrading is
easy since the Mozilla folk are designing it that way. I do the same
with OpenOffice and Thunderbird.

I guess I'd answer with another question, which is, why do you feel
the need to constantly upgrade? Complete Slack upgrades come at least

once per year and I have yet to ever see a need to upgrade a between
Slack release of anything. I've even skipped an odd release now and
then. In fact, it's now become clear linux has matured enough that
newer releases of many programs are not only unnecessary, but
sometimes downright unwelcome, as recently revealed by the huge
disapproval of KDE 4.2.

I did discover a bug in Seamonkey that prevented the installation of
the latest NoScript, which wouldn't be ironed out till the 2.0 release
of Seamonkey, a compelling reason to upgrade. Turns out using a tad
bit older version of NoScript worked just fine.

I guess some ppl just gotta be on that cutting edge. Me? Only with
my shaving razor. ;)

nb

I did discover a bug in Seamonkey that prevented the installation of
the latest NoScript, which wouldn't be ironed out till the 2.0 release
of Seamonkey, a compelling reason to upgrade.

Seamonkey-2.0 has already been released. And, IMHO, it looks ugly!

fact that firefox complains if it can't upgrade itself I find annoying
as well.

On 2009-11-04, Handover Phist <jason at (no spam) jason.websterscafe.com> wrote:

fact that firefox complains if it can't upgrade itself I find annoying
as well.

You should never see it more than once. There's a "do not show this
notice again" check box.

On 2009-11-04, Dan C <youmustbejoking at (no spam) lan.invalid> wrote:

I do not have multiple users, but the other benefit of doing it this
way is (obviously) that each user doesn't have to manage his own
updates, especially if they are not able to do such things...

...or if one just likes to use multiple user accts, which I do.

That's always been one of the attractions of *nix for me. It's easy to
customize different accts to one's preferences. I've got my online
acct, business acct, ebay acct, graphics acct, etc, each with different
browser prefs, desktops, dirs, files, etc. Installing software globally
makes for easy maint, while individual accts allows more granular
customization. It's similar to using multiple workspaces, yet in some
cases, handier and easier to manage.

nb

do you use multiple X servers....

to customize different accts to one's preferences. I've got my online
acct, business acct, ebay acct, graphics acct, etc, each with

On 2009-11-04, Handover Phist <jason at (no spam) jason.websterscafe.com> wrote:

fact that firefox complains if it can't upgrade itself I find annoying
as well.

You should never see it more than once. There's a "do not show this
notice again" check box.

nb