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| Terry Porter... |
 Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:53 pm |
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The trolls: "no one wants Linux"
The reality: Linux, led by Android, tipped to dominate smartphones
The conclusion: Trolls are clueless.
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by Stuart Corner
Thursday, 15 October 2009
Market research firm Telecom Trends International is forecasting that
Linux based smartphones will account for 60 percent of the smartphone
market in seven years with Android becoming the dominant mobile OS at 25
percent market share.
Operating systems embracing the Linux platform include Android, Symbian,
WebOS and LiMo, according to Telecom Trends, and this multiplicity of
platforms is bringing down costs and enhancing the features that Linux
phones offer, it says.
According to Naqi Jaffery, author of Telecom Trends' report 'Smartphone
Smarts and the Linux Starts', "With several operating systems converging
on the Linux platform, it will muster the critical mass needed to
succeed. Among Linux-based operating systems, Android will witness the
most rapid growth. By 2016, Google will have captured over 25 percent of
the smartphone market, putting it well ahead of competition."
Jaffery said that despite a slow start, Android is already making waves
in the marketplace. "It is generating groundswell of support from
manufacturers and developers that will give its growth the necessary
boost."
With Linux becoming the mainstream platform, the report sees the major
non-Linux platforms – Windows Mobile, BlackBerry, and iPhone – focusing
on particular niches. "Each of these platforms comes with significant
strengths, but they have reached their peak in terms of growth. It is
unlikely that these platforms will be able to stem Linux's unrelenting
push."
Telecom Trends forecasts annual global smartphone sales to exceed one
billion in 2016, up from 200 million in 2009.
In August another research firm, Canalys said that Microsoft's share of
the smartphone market was less than 10 percent and falling. It put
Android at only three percent, driven mainly through HTC, but added that
"With many other vendors, including Samsung, joining the fray, volumes
are expected to increase substantially. The free licence model, tight
integration with Google applications and the potential for a high degree
of vendor and operator customisation are all benefits attracting industry
participants."
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http://www.itwire.com/content/view/28538/127/
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| Moshe Goldfarb... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:24 pm |
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:53:50 -0500, Terry Porter wrote:
Quote: The trolls: "no one wants Linux"
Wrong again Terry Porter.
It's "no one wants DESKTOP LINUX".
Embedded devices and servers are a good place for Linux.
Quote: The reality: Linux, led by Android, tipped to dominate smartphones
The conclusion: Trolls are clueless.
Fact: Terry Porter is completely and utterly clueless.
Do you ever get anything correct Terry Porter? |
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| Hadron... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:18 pm |
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"Ezekiel" <zeke at (no spam) nosuchdomain.com> writes:
Quote: "bbgruff" <bbgruff at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7k0sbjF37qtklU1 at (no spam) mid.individual.net...
Hadron wrote:
I have no argument with you guys using "Market Share" in this context
(when
referring to stats of this type), where it's quite clear what is meant.
However, consider this for confusion:-
It's pretty obvious what's being discussed.
1. I first noted the "You can't call it market share if it's free"
argument
in reference to sales of servers, where *dollar* value of the sales was
quoted. The argument was that many Linux servers use standard machines
loaded with Linux, and don't show in those stats.
I don't follow your point. If you're talking about "server sales" then why
can't you count Linux server sales the way that practically every
report/article does. Are you claiming that companies buy servers with
Windows installed and then re-install Linux over it?
2. If we insist on using *dollar* value of the entire desktop machine
for "Market Share", then we could well have:-
Windows 85%
Macs 15%
Linux approx. zero
That's why it's ridiculous to use dollar value.
Only "advocate$" us that when they need a figure to support their rants.
It makes me cringe. |
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| Hadron... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:22 pm |
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William Poaster <wp at (no spam) kubuntu-karmicb.org> writes:
Quote: Take your pick, but I believe that we are usually arguing about "% of users"
here.
Which M$ estimates are about 14% in their quarterly report to the SEC.
LOL.
You are insane if you believe that.
Did you mean 1.4%?
Open Challenge : I challenge ANY "advocate" to openly suggest that Linux
has 14% of users. |
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| Hadron... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:33 pm |
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Moshe Goldfarb <moshegoldfarb at (no spam) yahoo.com> writes:
Quote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:49:33 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:
In article <HsadnfmCxIiz6EfXnZ2dnUVZ_jNi4p2d at (no spam) netspace.net.au>,
Terry Porter <linux-2 at (no spam) netspace.net.au> wrote:
C.O.L.A Charter:-
"For discussion of the benefits of GNU/Linux compared to other
operating systems."
The charter says "Linux", not "GNU/Linux". Why did you misquote it?
This is particularly funny considering that your post was about Android,
a Linux system that not even RMS would call "GNU/Linux".
Can anyone find a post where Terry Porter has been correct about
something?
The guy seems to be wrong each and every time he opens his trap.
There is a strong feeling, and a few emails sent to me from Roy's IRC
channel, that suggests that Porter might be a "reverse troll". Only
that could explain his idiocy.
Only this week he claimed there were no "free or Free" Office solutions
for Windows.
Did you notice that even Rick didn't kiss his arse? OK. Ahlstrom
did. But nothing new there. |
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| Moshe Goldfarb... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:12 pm |
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 04:33:28 +0200, Hadron wrote:
Quote: Moshe Goldfarb <moshegoldfarb at (no spam) yahoo.com> writes:
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:49:33 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:
In article <HsadnfmCxIiz6EfXnZ2dnUVZ_jNi4p2d at (no spam) netspace.net.au>,
Terry Porter <linux-2 at (no spam) netspace.net.au> wrote:
C.O.L.A Charter:-
"For discussion of the benefits of GNU/Linux compared to other
operating systems."
The charter says "Linux", not "GNU/Linux". Why did you misquote it?
This is particularly funny considering that your post was about Android,
a Linux system that not even RMS would call "GNU/Linux".
Can anyone find a post where Terry Porter has been correct about
something?
The guy seems to be wrong each and every time he opens his trap.
There is a strong feeling, and a few emails sent to me from Roy's IRC
channel, that suggests that Porter might be a "reverse troll". Only
that could explain his idiocy.
It has to be.
Nobody could be that stupid unless they were trying real hard to
be.
Quote: Only this week he claimed there were no "free or Free" Office solutions
for Windows.
Totally wrong.
Quote: Did you notice that even Rick didn't kiss his arse? OK. Ahlstrom
did. But nothing new there.
Ahlstrom is another fool. |
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