Dos-Man 64 <ChairS... at (no spam) mail.com> writes:

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I'm looking for something that would be similar to rapiq-q

http://www.telefonica.net/web2/rq/WiYu/Download.htm

The compiler still works on the current Debian stable and at least
the example mentioned in the README seems to do so, to.

I'm looking for something that would be similar to rapiq-q

3) Not a huge package with millions of files and a full-scale ide and
whatnot. I tried downloading free pascal, but it's just too much of a
monster to download and configure.

in 6978 20090814 175331 Dos-Man 64 <ChairS... at (no spam) mail.com> wrote:

3)  Not a huge package with millions of files and a full-scale ide and
whatnot. I tried downloading free pascal, but it's just too much of a
monster to download and configure.

Free Pascal binaries install in seconds and no configuration is necessary..

Dos-Man 64 writes:
I'm using a live distrubtion...

Why?  Those are not intended for anything serious.

And the target machine has no internet connection.

Why?  Even I can afford a Realtek card.

Usually I can't even figure out what files to download from these huge
lists of downloadable files with no descriptions.

Install a real distribution such as Debian and then install one of the
numerous IDE packages it offers (Lazarus for Free Pascal, for example).
The package manager will figure out all the dependencies.  All you will
have to do is change CDs when told to (and not even that if you spend
$10 and put the machine on the Net).
--
John Hasler
j... at (no spam) dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

I'm using a live distrubtion...

And the target machine has no internet connection.

Usually I can't even figure out what files to download from these huge
lists of downloadable files with no descriptions.

Hello, I am now finally moving to linux from windows. I am ok with
using Linux, but I do not know much about what programming tools are
available. What I am looking for is some programming tools that meet
a few specific criteria.

1) Easy to download/install/configure on a debian distribution. In
other words, not requiring me to download a bunch of other stuff in
order to get said compiler to work.

2) Standalone executables. I'm just not a big fan of the whole .net/
java thing. I want stand-alone binaries (and preferably small ones.)

3) Not a huge package with millions of files and a full-scale ide and
whatnot. I tried downloading free pascal, but it's just too much of a
monster to download and configure.

I'm looking for something that would be similar to rapiq-q or AutoIt 3
on the windows platform. Just something that is easy to set up and can
be used to create small utilities with.

Dos-Man 64 <ChairS... at (no spam) mail.com> wrote:
Well, that may be true; however, I am finding knoppix live to be
totally sufficient for what I want to do here. I've been using Windows
98 for like 12 years, and this is similar.

Yeah, but do you run windows from a livecd?
The advice of using a permanent distro for development is good.

I too am a developer coming from another platform (my background is
msdos and assembly language).

It's at least as good. All
I need now is a couple of good little compilers, and I'll be set.

I am doing similar research here. For graphical applications, you might want
to try gambas, which is a bit like visual basic.

We have two machines in our household. One is set up for Internet, the
other has always been used for gaming.

Ok, you have more than one machine. That is a good reason to get hold of
a couple of network cards.

I still have a problem with that. Stuff disappears (kylix for
example.)  If I download something, I want to be able to burn it to a
CD so that I will always have it.

Indeed, distributions do change. Burning to cdrom, or storing stuff on a
local fileserver is a good policy. I do that here.

If something requires too many
dependencies and too much downloading, then it isn't any good and not
worth bothering with. Well, that's the philosophy of the platform I am
coming from anyway.

Microsoft Windows has problems with dependencies too. You must have
experienced this.

On 2009-08-14, Dos-Man 64 <ChairS... at (no spam) mail.com> wrote:

Hello, I am now finally moving to linux from windows. I am ok with
using Linux, but I do not know much about what programming tools are
available.  What I am looking for is some programming tools that meet
a few specific criteria.

1)  Easy to download/install/configure on a debian distribution.  In
other words, not requiring me to download a bunch of other stuff in
order to get said compiler to work.

you could try NASM (I'm not really sure of your goals here)

2)  Standalone executables.  I'm just not a big fan of the whole .net/
java thing. I want stand-alone binaries (and preferably small ones.)

gcc (and a few extra bits) will compile C,C++, ISO Pascal, Object
Pascal, Fortran-78, Objective C, and probably a few other languages.
it's kind of big but it works well.

3)  Not a huge package with millions of files and a full-scale ide and
whatnot. I tried downloading free pascal, but it's just too much of a
monster to download and configure.
I'm looking for something that would be similar to rapiq-q or AutoIt 3
on the windows platform. Just something that is easy to set up and can
be used to create small utilities with.

wikipedia says rapiq-q is cross platform, get the linux version!

I usually write small utilities as bash scripts.

Well, that may be true; however, I am finding knoppix live to be
totally sufficient for what I want to do here. I've been using Windows
98 for like 12 years, and this is similar.

It's at least as good. All
I need now is a couple of good little compilers, and I'll be set.

We have two machines in our household. One is set up for Internet, the
other has always been used for gaming.

I still have a problem with that. Stuff disappears (kylix for
example.) If I download something, I want to be able to burn it to a
CD so that I will always have it.

If something requires too many
dependencies and too much downloading, then it isn't any good and not
worth bothering with. Well, that's the philosophy of the platform I am
coming from anyway.

On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 07:25:37 -0700 (PDT), Dos-Man 64





ChairS... at (no spam) mail.com> wrote:
On Aug 16, 4:28 am, Jasen Betts <ja... at (no spam) xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2009-08-14, Dos-Man 64 <ChairS... at (no spam) mail.com> wrote:

Hello, I am now finally moving to linux from windows. I am ok with
using Linux, but I do not know much about what programming tools are
available.  What I am looking for is some programming tools that meet
a few specific criteria.

1)  Easy to download/install/configure on a debian distribution.  In
other words, not requiring me to download a bunch of other stuff in
order to get said compiler to work.

you could try NASM (I'm not really sure of your goals here)

Well, my goal is to get more comfortable using and programming linux.
I know C very well, and so I'm ok on the command line application
front. I just need something small for writing GUI apps. As mentioned,
I do not like java. I have used linux on and off over the years, so
I'm not in the position of having no linux experience at all (Thank
God.) But then again, there's a lot that I don't know, so I have to
continue to learn.

2)  Standalone executables.  I'm just not a big fan of the whole .net/
java thing. I want stand-alone binaries (and preferably small ones.)

gcc (and a few extra bits) will compile C,C++, ISO Pascal, Object
Pascal, Fortran-78, Objective C, and probably a few other languages.
it's kind of big but it works well.

3)  Not a huge package with millions of files and a full-scale ide and
whatnot. I tried downloading free pascal, but it's just too much of a
monster to download and configure.
I'm looking for something that would be similar to rapiq-q or AutoIt 3
on the windows platform. Just something that is easy to set up and can
be used to create small utilities with.

wikipedia says rapiq-q is cross platform, get the linux version!

Honestly, I have tried it.  It doesn't work well.  It isn't reliable..

I usually write small utilities as bash scripts.

My own scripting language seems to work pretty well running under WINE
(or at least for scripts that don't perform console I/O.)  However,
this is kind of a bizarre experience running this (to say the least.)

http://www.savefile.com/client/files.php?pid=808766665

Late to the chase here, but two suggestions:

Build your own live DVD with Kdevelop (it may even be on the Knoppix
DVD)

Search Internet for a live DVD with development tools on it already.

On Aug 16, 4:28 am, Jasen Betts <ja... at (no spam) xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2009-08-14, Dos-Man 64 <ChairS... at (no spam) mail.com> wrote:

Hello, I am now finally moving to linux from windows. I am ok with
using Linux, but I do not know much about what programming tools are
available.  What I am looking for is some programming tools that meet
a few specific criteria.

1)  Easy to download/install/configure on a debian distribution.  In
other words, not requiring me to download a bunch of other stuff in
order to get said compiler to work.

you could try NASM (I'm not really sure of your goals here)




Well, my goal is to get more comfortable using and programming linux.
I know C very well, and so I'm ok on the command line application
front. I just need something small for writing GUI apps. As mentioned,
I do not like java. I have used linux on and off over the years, so
I'm not in the position of having no linux experience at all (Thank
God.) But then again, there's a lot that I don't know, so I have to
continue to learn.


2)  Standalone executables.  I'm just not a big fan of the whole .net/
java thing. I want stand-alone binaries (and preferably small ones.)

gcc (and a few extra bits) will compile C,C++, ISO Pascal, Object
Pascal, Fortran-78, Objective C, and probably a few other languages.
it's kind of big but it works well.

3)  Not a huge package with millions of files and a full-scale ide and
whatnot. I tried downloading free pascal, but it's just too much of a
monster to download and configure.
I'm looking for something that would be similar to rapiq-q or AutoIt 3
on the windows platform. Just something that is easy to set up and can
be used to create small utilities with.

wikipedia says rapiq-q is cross platform, get the linux version!



Honestly, I have tried it. It doesn't work well. It isn't reliable.


I usually write small utilities as bash scripts.


My own scripting language seems to work pretty well running under WINE
(or at least for scripts that don't perform console I/O.) However,
this is kind of a bizarre experience running this (to say the least.)

http://www.savefile.com/client/files.php?pid=808766665