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Doug Freyburger...
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:46 am
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The Natural Philosopher <t... at (no spam) invalid.invalid> wrote:
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FrancG620 wrote:

the setup is a PC running DebIan (Etch) Linux with SaMBa
(as the PC server) two PCs running WinXP SP2
for printing -- there is an Epson USB inkjet printer (R200)
and an Apple Personal LaserWriter 320

now the 2 PCs running Win XP and the Epson Inket
are relatively new. The PC running DebIan is 4 yrs old
and has a 1GHz processor. the Apple laser was acquired
some time ago and kept in storage until this time it was attached
to a device called Asantetalk by Asante (that device is connected
to the laser)

tempted to say pickup up an old G4 mac on Ebay and use
taht to make the printer work..thats appletalk or somethinmg horrid innit?

It being Appletalk protocol SAMBA won't help in the least.
Wrong tool for the job. SAMBA works as a gateway to
Active Directory and that isn't AppleTalk protocol.

Years ago I loaded AppleTalk protocol EtherTalk drivers on
some Solaris boxes to be able to gateway betwen Apple
File Share devices and AppleTalk printers. AppleTalk
protocol drivers are bound to be available for some Linux
distribution to be able to access the device directly.

I suggest a hardware gateway though - Look on eBay and
see if you can find an old "GatorBox" gateway device. I
used one to bridge protocols and it was far easier than
keeping foreign device drivers up to date on Solaris hosts.
 
Doug Freyburger...
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:06 am
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The Natural Philosopher <t... at (no spam) invalid.invalid> wrote:
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Actually Macs still talk appletalk. Localtalk not, IIRC.

Network protocol stack comment -

Localtalk is serial line hardware at level 1 of the ISO model.
This hardware only has legacy use now. It's old enough that
many don't remember it.

Ethertalk is hardware at level 1 of the ISO model that is
in current use, though I suspect it technically means 10 MB
ethernet that gets less current each year.

Appletalk is a networking protocol at level 3 of the ISO model
that is gradually dropping out of current use. It can run on
any level 1 hardware that has level 2 support ported to it.

I don't recall if localtalk used RS-232 or RS-422 but the same
physical GBIC daughter cards are used for both gigabit
ethernet (current) and FCIP SAN (now going obsolete) shows
that the physical hardware does not determine the software
protocol.

Saying that an old Apple printer uses both localtalk and
appletalk contains no contradiction and shouldn't trigger
any confusion. The OP already has a hardware device that
moves localtalk hardware signals to ethertalk hardware
signals and back again.

As fun as it is to wrangle old hardware into working it is
much less expensive to buy a cheap new printer.
 
 
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