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| Michael Madden... |
 Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:04 am |
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Does anyone know of a community, opensource rebuild of SLES 10? I've
been using SLES 10 at work for some time now, and I'd love to a
similar
version for projects at home. Ideally it would be nice to have
something similar to CentOS, Scientific, or Whitebox which is based on
SLES instead of RHEL.
Thanks in advance. |
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| houghi... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:18 am |
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Michael Madden wrote:
Quote: Does anyone know of a community, opensource rebuild of SLES 10?
Yes. It is called openSUSE.
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| Chris Cox... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:30 pm |
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Michael Madden wrote:
Quote: Does anyone know of a community, opensource rebuild of SLES 10? I've
been using SLES 10 at work for some time now, and I'd love to a
similar
version for projects at home. Ideally it would be nice to have
something similar to CentOS, Scientific, or Whitebox which is based on
SLES instead of RHEL.
Thanks in advance.
Well... SLES 10 is downloadable and free. So you could use that.
You won't get automatic updates, but I believe there is a free way
to get at the update rpm's... but you have to do things manually.
You really, really, really do not want to go with something
like CentOS. All it does is divide things and cause a plethora
of problems. If you're a developer, Novell has inexpensive
programs to get you SLES 10 (and everything else) with updates.
If you're not a developer, either use a consumer based
distro (e.g. openSUSE, bad idea if this is important to
you), or purchase a service subscription... they are relatively
cheap.
Distros like CentOS do NOT help Linux.... so if supporting
Linux is important... don't go that way. |
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| houghi... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:05 pm |
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Chris Cox wrote:
Quote: You really, really, really do not want to go with something
like CentOS. All it does is divide things and cause a plethora
of problems. If you're a developer, Novell has inexpensive
programs to get you SLES 10 (and everything else) with updates.
Novell has activaly helped to make it possible to do something like
CentOS. The easiest to just replace all the trademarks. They have made
rembrand for that. You then have a usable ISO, but as you said, you can
just download and use that,
Perhaps you want to have a different way of installing, so you need to
edit the way it installs. You know what? YaST is pretty well documented
and that is what the installer does.
In fact they would LOVE if other distributions would start using it and
more people hacking it.
So you can install it. Now you need extra stuff that needs to go on the
server that people can download. How to do that in various ways is
pretty well described as well and if you can't figure it out, they will
help you.
Now you can do a ./configure and make on each and every package,
including updates, but won't it be so much cooler if you could do it the
way Novell does it? Well, that is possible as well. Just install the
build service yourself on any sort of hardware.
So all the software is available to make a CentOS form of SUSE. I know
they have actvaly helped people making their own distributions.
That all said, I think that if you want to directly compete with SLE,
you will devide and I would also think that if you think that 350USD (I
think) for SLES or 50USD (I think) per year for SLED is too much, then
you have a serious problem in your company.
And as a private user, you do not need it.
houghi
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| David Bolt... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:20 pm |
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2008, houghi wrote:-
Quote: Chris Cox wrote:
You really, really, really do not want to go with something
like CentOS. All it does is divide things and cause a plethora
of problems. If you're a developer, Novell has inexpensive
programs to get you SLES 10 (and everything else) with updates.
Novell has activaly helped to make it possible to do something like
CentOS. The easiest to just replace all the trademarks. They have made
rembrand for that.
They went even further with 11.0 in that the branding was split off and
packaged in separate packages. All you'd need to do was create your own
branding packages, have the installation system insert a lock to prevent
the Novell branding packages being added, and you can have your own
distro very quickly. You can even use (almost all) the updates provided
by Novell.
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Quote: Now you can do a ./configure and make on each and every package,
including updates, but won't it be so much cooler if you could do it the
way Novell does it?
Make your own build service and build your own distribution using it?
Quote: Well, that is possible as well. Just install the
build service yourself on any sort of hardware.
That's something I've yet to do. Could be fun trying it out :)
Quote: So all the software is available to make a CentOS form of SUSE. I know
they have actvaly helped people making their own distributions.
I still remember having fun making my own rebranded version of openSUSE.
Pity I'm lousy as an artist, or that experimental DavjamOS could have
had some better graphics.
Regards,
David Bolt
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| houghi... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:41 pm |
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David Bolt wrote:
Quote: I still remember having fun making my own rebranded version of openSUSE.
Pity I'm lousy as an artist, or that experimental DavjamOS could have
had some better graphics.
I remember that and the script that went into it.
I still enjoy the moment where Novell Legal came into play and told me
that due to how trademarks work, thye couldn't find a licence that would
make all easier. That triggerd rembrand, as a techhnical solution was
the only way.
I like it when a legal department of such a large company takes an
interest and at least tries to look for a solution.
They even OKed the disclaimer in makeSUSEdvd by saying 'It is good
enough for us.' :-D
I know that Novell and openSUSE encourages people to make different
distro's based on openSUSE. They also like these little side projects
and it shows that they actually listen to people. When people said that
it was evil, because it had not the ability to ru a 100% OS version
(e.g. no java and such) they devided the repo's in OS and Non-OS.
About that latter, they had an old agreement to be able to distribute
pine (not the standard) but they were in doubt, so they put it in
Non-OS, just to be sure.
It also sows that it listens to its users by still making it possible to
have it, unlike some other distributions where they tell you what you
can use.
houghi
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