Day Brown wrote:
Ken wrote:
Mandriva has a set of administration utilities grouped in a Mandriva
Control
Center. There's one for setting log-on preferences.
I just dont understand, why, with all the zillions of home single user
desktops, its not SOP during the install to ask if that's what I want.

I use Mandriva. Been using it for years. They used to ask just what you
want them to ask about single user autoboot, but haven't for a while
now. I don't know why. Perhaps it has something to do with the general
paranoia that permeates the computer industry these days. However, it
can still be set through the Mandriva Control Center.

So far, Mandriva has "just run" any usb device I've tried, all with
minimal, if any, configuration from me. However, I haven't tried to use
a Winmodem. So far, I've tried a camera, two card readers, an Officejet,
and an external hard drive. No, I take that back. One old Visioneer
scanner won't work, but that's because it's an oddball and no viable
Linux driver was ever written for it.

TJ

Day Brown wrote:
Ken wrote:
Mandriva has a set of administration utilities grouped in a Mandriva
Control
Center. There's one for setting log-on preferences.
I just dont understand, why, with all the zillions of home single user
desktops, its not SOP during the install to ask if that's what I want.

I use Mandriva. Been using it for years. They used to ask just what you
want them to ask about single user autoboot, but haven't for a while
now. I don't know why. Perhaps it has something to do with the general
paranoia that permeates the computer industry these days. However, it
can still be set through the Mandriva Control Center.

So far, Mandriva has "just run" any usb device I've tried, all with
minimal, if any, configuration from me. However, I haven't tried to use
a Winmodem. So far, I've tried a camera, two card readers, an Officejet,
and an external hard drive. No, I take that back. One old Visioneer
scanner won't work, but that's because it's an oddball and no viable
Linux driver was ever written for it.

TJ

The screen is attractive, but it wouldnt let me shift the panel to the
side, keeping tool bars on the top and bottom. I have a kinda wide
screen, and this makes me scroll up more.

I've been running Xandros, but had problems trying to install a torrent,
and since Ubuntu was also a debian distro, thot it mite work. But
whereas Xandros immediately found my PANTECH UM150 wireless modem and
ran it, which gets me here, Ubuntu didnt even see it, much less run it.

Then, there's the logon screen, which makes some sense for a platform
that others have access to. But this pc sits in my bedroom, and the
necessity to logon typing my username and password is an annoyance.

If someone accesses this desktop, I dont have a security problem, I have
a family problem. the network hackers who put Ubuntu together dont seem
to realize some of us dont have security risks.

Perhaps my needs are a bit unusual. I'm at the end of the grid in the
Ozarks, but there's an Alltel transponder on a mountain top with clear
line of site to my place so I can get broadband with their wireless
modem. I rather thot all the laptops with wireless modems would make up
a user base distros would want to include.

Is there another distro that will run the modem as well as give me a
torrent, automatically mount and give me full access to whatever other
drives are in the pc and when booted go straight to my desktop?

TJ wrote:
Day Brown wrote:
Ken wrote:
Mandriva has a set of administration utilities grouped in a Mandriva
Control
Center. There's one for setting log-on preferences.
I just dont understand, why, with all the zillions of home single user
desktops, its not SOP during the install to ask if that's what I want.

I use Mandriva. Been using it for years. They used to ask just what you
want them to ask about single user autoboot, but haven't for a while
now. I don't know why. Perhaps it has something to do with the general
paranoia that permeates the computer industry these days. However, it
can still be set through the Mandriva Control Center.

So far, Mandriva has "just run" any usb device I've tried, all with
minimal, if any, configuration from me. However, I haven't tried to use
a Winmodem. So far, I've tried a camera, two card readers, an
Officejet, and an external hard drive. No, I take that back. One old
Visioneer scanner won't work, but that's because it's an oddball and no
viable Linux driver was ever written for it.

TJ

I got sick of Ubuntu and switched to fedora and haven't lo0oked back.

TJ wrote:
Day Brown wrote:
Ken wrote:
Mandriva has a set of administration utilities grouped in a Mandriva
Control
Center. There's one for setting log-on preferences.
I just dont understand, why, with all the zillions of home single user
desktops, its not SOP during the install to ask if that's what I want.

I use Mandriva. Been using it for years. They used to ask just what you
want them to ask about single user autoboot, but haven't for a while
now. I don't know why. Perhaps it has something to do with the general
paranoia that permeates the computer industry these days. However, it
can still be set through the Mandriva Control Center.

So far, Mandriva has "just run" any usb device I've tried, all with
minimal, if any, configuration from me. However, I haven't tried to use
a Winmodem. So far, I've tried a camera, two card readers, an
Officejet, and an external hard drive. No, I take that back. One old
Visioneer scanner won't work, but that's because it's an oddball and no
viable Linux driver was ever written for it.

TJ

I got sick of Ubuntu and switched to fedora and haven't lo0oked back.

TJ wrote:
Day Brown wrote:
Ken wrote:
Mandriva has a set of administration utilities grouped in a Mandriva
Control
Center. There's one for setting log-on preferences.
I just dont understand, why, with all the zillions of home single user
desktops, its not SOP during the install to ask if that's what I want.

I use Mandriva. Been using it for years. They used to ask just what you
want them to ask about single user autoboot, but haven't for a while
now. I don't know why. Perhaps it has something to do with the general
paranoia that permeates the computer industry these days. However, it
can still be set through the Mandriva Control Center.

So far, Mandriva has "just run" any usb device I've tried, all with
minimal, if any, configuration from me. However, I haven't tried to use
a Winmodem. So far, I've tried a camera, two card readers, an
Officejet, and an external hard drive. No, I take that back. One old
Visioneer scanner won't work, but that's because it's an oddball and no
viable Linux driver was ever written for it.

TJ

I got sick of Ubuntu and switched to fedora and haven't lo0oked back.

Day Brown wrote:
The screen is attractive, but it wouldnt let me shift the panel to the
side, keeping tool bars on the top and bottom. I have a kinda wide
screen, and this makes me scroll up more.

I've been running Xandros, but had problems trying to install a
torrent, and since Ubuntu was also a debian distro, thot it mite work.
But whereas Xandros immediately found my PANTECH UM150 wireless modem
and ran it, which gets me here, Ubuntu didnt even see it, much less run
it.

Then, there's the logon screen, which makes some sense for a platform
that others have access to. But this pc sits in my bedroom, and the
necessity to logon typing my username and password is an annoyance.

If someone accesses this desktop, I dont have a security problem, I
have a family problem. the network hackers who put Ubuntu together dont
seem to realize some of us dont have security risks.

Perhaps my needs are a bit unusual. I'm at the end of the grid in the
Ozarks, but there's an Alltel transponder on a mountain top with clear
line of site to my place so I can get broadband with their wireless
modem. I rather thot all the laptops with wireless modems would make up
a user base distros would want to include.

Is there another distro that will run the modem as well as give me a
torrent, automatically mount and give me full access to whatever other
drives are in the pc and when booted go straight to my desktop?


I switched from ubuntu to Fedora and haven't look back sense, and am
quite frankly pleased to have made the switch

It's my impression that wireless connectivity has been receiving more
attention in the last couple of Linux years, but seamless "boot the
DVD, connect to the world" performance may not yet be ubiquitously
available. Though I don't have your hardware to say for sure, Mandriva
seems to have pretty good hardware detection and wireless setup
capabilities.

I have been using Ubuntu and have no complaints. However I do have Fedora
on dvd and have considered giving it a shot. I like Ubuntus package
manager and the way it handles dependencies.

In message <DFEKk.11376$Ai5.7898 at (no spam) newsfe13.iad>, Duane Hinnen wrote:

I have been using Ubuntu and have no complaints. However I do have
Fedora on dvd and have considered giving it a shot. I like Ubuntus
package manager and the way it handles dependencies.

Fedora is probably a bit more bleeding-edge, with a new release every
six months and update support for only a year.

* Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote in alt.linux:

In message <DFEKk.11376$Ai5.7898 at (no spam) newsfe13.iad>, Duane Hinnen wrote:

I have been using Ubuntu and have no complaints. However I do have
Fedora on dvd and have considered giving it a shot. I like Ubuntus
package manager and the way it handles dependencies.

Fedora is probably a bit more bleeding-edge, with a new release every
six months and update support for only a year.

Ubuntu follows this model as well ...

In message <Xns9B3E5B3CDE1CDlouiscypherhellorg at (no spam) 140.99.99.130>, SINNER
wrote:

* Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote in alt.linux:

In message <DFEKk.11376$Ai5.7898 at (no spam) newsfe13.iad>, Duane Hinnen wrote:

I have been using Ubuntu and have no complaints. However I do have
Fedora on dvd and have considered giving it a shot. I like Ubuntus
package manager and the way it handles dependencies.

Fedora is probably a bit more bleeding-edge, with a new release
every six months and update support for only a year.

Ubuntu follows this model as well ...

No, they do support for at least two years. As does SuSE.

In <Xns9B4487119C19Flouiscypherhellorg at (no spam) 140.99.99.130> SINNER:

[Snip...]

8.04 is LTS as 10.04 will be as well.

http://www.ubuntu.com/products/ubuntu/release-cycle

Yeah, but I think *kubuntu* 8.04 might not be LTS, although (naturally)
I cannot find anything about it ATM.

security updates for non LTS/Server releases are for 18 months

In <Xns9B4464E16AC93louiscypherhellorg at (no spam) 140.99.99.130> SINNER:

[Snip...]

security updates for non LTS/Server releases are for 18 months

FWIW and AIUI, Hardy Heron Kubuntu 8.04 is *NOT* LTS. So, I'm guessing it
runs out of official Canonical support 18 months after April, 2008 (which
would be about a year from now?).