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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:43 pm |
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On 21 Jul 2008 17:50:06 GMT Bob Tennent <BobT at (no spam) cs.queensu.ca> wrote:
| On 21 Jul 2008 14:13:40 GMT, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net wrote:
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| > The system starst in text mode. I run a command to start X. X is
| > configured to start xdm. I login on the xdm box. Then xdm starts a
| > user login script that launches fvwm (and other stuff, then execs
| > xlogo so it does not return to xdm unless I specifically kill xlogo).
| > This is not a KDE/Gnome environment.
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| Is it a laptop? Try running gnome-power-preferences and changing the
| setting for "Put display to sleep when inactive for ...".
No. It is a desktop. The video card is Matrox G450 AGP.
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pci bus 0x0001 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x102b device 0x0525
Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400/G450
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X Window System Version 1.3.0
Release Date: 19 April 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3
Build Operating System: Slackware 12.0 Slackware Linux Project
Current Operating System: Linux faraday.ipal.net 2.6.25.10 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jul 6 00:57:32 CDT 2008 i686
Build Date: 09 May 2007
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
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Here are a bunch of logs: http://phil.ipal.org/usenet/colx/2008-07-21/
Note that I am running 3 instances of X at the same time. Maybe that is
causing a problem?
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:50 pm |
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On 2008-07-21, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net <phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net> wrote:
Quote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:16:12 -0500 nobody <annonymous at (no spam) none.com> wrote:
| I'm running suse 11.0 w/kde4.1 beta & have the screensaver on BUT the
| "screensaver" never activates (had set the saver to display the torus)
| thingy. The monitor still "blanks"; & my monitor led power light shows
| yellow instead of green for "on". The yellow is displayed when the
| monitor is not getting a signal.
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| Is this, then, a hardware triggered energy/power/screen saver applied
| by something?
Some number of minutes after mine blanks out, my monitor does the yellow light
thing. It doesn't get sync anymore. So I presume something turned it off.
The monitor has shutdown most of its circuitry, especially the backlight. So
it is saving energy.
But there are times when I want to have it stay on, such as when I have the
weather radar display full screen during stormy weather.
You didn't state what linux version or kde version.
With suse 11.0 & 4.1 rc1, I looked at the config desktop when selection the
icon on the taskbar that represented gecko(?); then on the config desktop
I selected hardware, display & a tab shows power control which then has
a button/bar for selecting kpowersave.
The kpowersave settings has performance, powersave, presentation & acoustic
selectable as a menu listing. Here is what I find confusing as only the
acoustic item doesn't have selectable timeout configurations. In powersave
there is standby at (no spam) 2 min, suspend at (no spam) 3 min & power off at (no spam) 5 min; BUT the
performance item has relative settings at 10, 20 30 minutes!
Also a default someplace say screen saver is not enabled & with the pointer
over a configurable item say that global dpms will be overridden by
kpowersave.......
It is getting more & more complicated & hopefully some doc is forthcoming.
good luck to you on trial & error to get what you want...... I just got
more white hairs..... |
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:50 pm |
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On 2008-07-21, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net <phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net> wrote:
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I sure hope it isn't a case of some magic subset and in a specific order that
is required to do this. There should be a setting somewhere that controls
how long with no input before blanking or running the screen saver. Maybe if
that value is set to 0 it would disable.
I'm also finding that on text console, this command that should prevent the
blanking there, sometimes does not (e.g. sometimes it blanks out anyway):
setterm -blank 0
I also tried this inside xterm to see if xterm would "know what to do". No
such luck.
If the monitor itself has a menu, you might be able to disable power
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:25 am |
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:50:23 -0500 nobody <annonymous at (no spam) none.com> wrote:
| On 2008-07-21, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net <phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net> wrote:
|> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:16:12 -0500 nobody <annonymous at (no spam) none.com> wrote:
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|>| I'm running suse 11.0 w/kde4.1 beta & have the screensaver on BUT the
|>| "screensaver" never activates (had set the saver to display the torus)
|>| thingy. The monitor still "blanks"; & my monitor led power light shows
|>| yellow instead of green for "on". The yellow is displayed when the
|>| monitor is not getting a signal.
|>|
|>| Is this, then, a hardware triggered energy/power/screen saver applied
|>| by something?
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|> Some number of minutes after mine blanks out, my monitor does the yellow light
|> thing. It doesn't get sync anymore. So I presume something turned it off.
|> The monitor has shutdown most of its circuitry, especially the backlight. So
|> it is saving energy.
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|> But there are times when I want to have it stay on, such as when I have the
|> weather radar display full screen during stormy weather.
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| You didn't state what linux version or kde version.
Linux 2.6.25.10. Xorg 1.3.0. No KDE or Gnome.
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:28 am |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:50:08 GMT Bill Marcum <marcumbill at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote:
| On 2008-07-21, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net <phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net> wrote:
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|> I sure hope it isn't a case of some magic subset and in a specific order that
|> is required to do this. There should be a setting somewhere that controls
|> how long with no input before blanking or running the screen saver. Maybe if
|> that value is set to 0 it would disable.
|>
|> I'm also finding that on text console, this command that should prevent the
|> blanking there, sometimes does not (e.g. sometimes it blanks out anyway):
|>
|> setterm -blank 0
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|> I also tried this inside xterm to see if xterm would "know what to do". No
|> such luck.
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| If the monitor itself has a menu, you might be able to disable power
| saving there.
It's not the power saving I'm trying to disabled. The screen goes blank/black.
I want the image (weather radar) to stay on the screen all the time. Imagine
it as a kiosk or as a video feeder to a cable TV weather radar channel (which
reminds of me of a few times I have seen a MS Windows blue screen on some
cable text channels).
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| Niklaus Kuehnis... |
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:38 am |
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phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net wrote:
Quote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:50:08 GMT Bill Marcum <marcumbill at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote:
| On 2008-07-21, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net <phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net> wrote:
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|> I sure hope it isn't a case of some magic subset and in a specific order that
|> is required to do this. There should be a setting somewhere that controls
|> how long with no input before blanking or running the screen saver. Maybe if
|> that value is set to 0 it would disable.
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|> I'm also finding that on text console, this command that should prevent the
|> blanking there, sometimes does not (e.g. sometimes it blanks out anyway):
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|> setterm -blank 0
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|> I also tried this inside xterm to see if xterm would "know what to do". No
|> such luck.
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| If the monitor itself has a menu, you might be able to disable power
| saving there.
It's not the power saving I'm trying to disabled. The screen goes blank/black.
I want the image (weather radar) to stay on the screen all the time. Imagine
it as a kiosk or as a video feeder to a cable TV weather radar channel (which
reminds of me of a few times I have seen a MS Windows blue screen on some
cable text channels).
Just an idea: Could you send a periodic keyboard event, e.g. with
xvkbd or maybe with expect?
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:33 am |
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On 23 Jul 2008 13:38:46 GMT Niklaus Kuehnis <kuehnik_0505 at (no spam) gmx-topmail.de> wrote:
| phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net wrote:
|> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:50:08 GMT Bill Marcum <marcumbill at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote:
|> | On 2008-07-21, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net <phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net> wrote:
|> |>
|> |> I sure hope it isn't a case of some magic subset and in a specific order that
|> |> is required to do this. There should be a setting somewhere that controls
|> |> how long with no input before blanking or running the screen saver. Maybe if
|> |> that value is set to 0 it would disable.
|> |>
|> |> I'm also finding that on text console, this command that should prevent the
|> |> blanking there, sometimes does not (e.g. sometimes it blanks out anyway):
|> |>
|> |> setterm -blank 0
|> |>
|> |> I also tried this inside xterm to see if xterm would "know what to do". No
|> |> such luck.
|> |>
|> | If the monitor itself has a menu, you might be able to disable power
|> | saving there.
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|> It's not the power saving I'm trying to disabled. The screen goes blank/black.
|> I want the image (weather radar) to stay on the screen all the time. Imagine
|> it as a kiosk or as a video feeder to a cable TV weather radar channel (which
|> reminds of me of a few times I have seen a MS Windows blue screen on some
|> cable text channels).
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| Just an idea: Could you send a periodic keyboard event, e.g. with
| xvkbd or maybe with expect?
I don't know what xvkbd is. How would expect send a keyboard event? If I
stuff one in to an xterm pty it won't be seen by X as an input, but only as
xterm output. I have tried stuffing keyboard events into /dev/tty10 but the
X server running on tty10 doesn't see it (I'm assuming because it accesses
the keyboard at a lower level so it sees the ups and downs, not just the
ASCII queue). Maybe I need to write a kernel patch to inject keyboard events
at a lower level (e.g. key scan code and up/down).
But I still think it is better to identify what bit of code in some component
of the X window system is futzing with the screen blanking and make it stop.
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:37 pm |
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On 2008-07-24, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net <phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net> wrote:
Quote: On 23 Jul 2008 13:38:46 GMT Niklaus Kuehnis <kuehnik_0505 at (no spam) gmx-topmail.de> wrote:
| phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net wrote:
|> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:50:08 GMT Bill Marcum <marcumbill at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote:
|> | On 2008-07-21, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net <phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net> wrote:
|> |
|> |> I sure hope it isn't a case of some magic subset and in a specific order that
|> |> is required to do this. There should be a setting somewhere that controls
|> |> how long with no input before blanking or running the screen saver. Maybe if
|> |> that value is set to 0 it would disable.
|> |
|> |> I'm also finding that on text console, this command that should prevent the
|> |> blanking there, sometimes does not (e.g. sometimes it blanks out anyway):
|> |
|> |> setterm -blank 0
|> |
|> |> I also tried this inside xterm to see if xterm would "know what to do". No
|> |> such luck.
|> |
|> | If the monitor itself has a menu, you might be able to disable power
|> | saving there.
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|> It's not the power saving I'm trying to disabled. The screen goes blank/black.
|> I want the image (weather radar) to stay on the screen all the time. Imagine
|> it as a kiosk or as a video feeder to a cable TV weather radar channel (which
|> reminds of me of a few times I have seen a MS Windows blue screen on some
|> cable text channels).
|
| Just an idea: Could you send a periodic keyboard event, e.g. with
| xvkbd or maybe with expect?
I don't know what xvkbd is. How would expect send a keyboard event? If I
stuff one in to an xterm pty it won't be seen by X as an input, but only as
xterm output. I have tried stuffing keyboard events into /dev/tty10 but the
X server running on tty10 doesn't see it (I'm assuming because it accesses
the keyboard at a lower level so it sees the ups and downs, not just the
ASCII queue). Maybe I need to write a kernel patch to inject keyboard events
at a lower level (e.g. key scan code and up/down).
But I still think it is better to identify what bit of code in some component
of the X window system is futzing with the screen blanking and make it stop.
Have you checked the "/etc/sysconfig/powersave/....." to see if any of the
scripts is doing the blanking?; expecially when not using gnome or kde. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:33 pm |
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:37:27 -0500 nobody <annonymous at (no spam) none.com> wrote:
| On 2008-07-24, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net <phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net> wrote:
|> On 23 Jul 2008 13:38:46 GMT Niklaus Kuehnis <kuehnik_0505 at (no spam) gmx-topmail.de> wrote:
|>| phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net wrote:
|>|> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:50:08 GMT Bill Marcum <marcumbill at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote:
|>|> | On 2008-07-21, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net <phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net> wrote:
|>|> |>
|>|> |> I sure hope it isn't a case of some magic subset and in a specific order that
|>|> |> is required to do this. There should be a setting somewhere that controls
|>|> |> how long with no input before blanking or running the screen saver. Maybe if
|>|> |> that value is set to 0 it would disable.
|>|> |>
|>|> |> I'm also finding that on text console, this command that should prevent the
|>|> |> blanking there, sometimes does not (e.g. sometimes it blanks out anyway):
|>|> |>
|>|> |> setterm -blank 0
|>|> |>
|>|> |> I also tried this inside xterm to see if xterm would "know what to do". No
|>|> |> such luck.
|>|> |>
|>|> | If the monitor itself has a menu, you might be able to disable power
|>|> | saving there.
|>|
|>|> It's not the power saving I'm trying to disabled. The screen goes blank/black.
|>|> I want the image (weather radar) to stay on the screen all the time. Imagine
|>|> it as a kiosk or as a video feeder to a cable TV weather radar channel (which
|>|> reminds of me of a few times I have seen a MS Windows blue screen on some
|>|> cable text channels).
|>|
|>| Just an idea: Could you send a periodic keyboard event, e.g. with
|>| xvkbd or maybe with expect?
|>
|> I don't know what xvkbd is. How would expect send a keyboard event? If I
|> stuff one in to an xterm pty it won't be seen by X as an input, but only as
|> xterm output. I have tried stuffing keyboard events into /dev/tty10 but the
|> X server running on tty10 doesn't see it (I'm assuming because it accesses
|> the keyboard at a lower level so it sees the ups and downs, not just the
|> ASCII queue). Maybe I need to write a kernel patch to inject keyboard events
|> at a lower level (e.g. key scan code and up/down).
|>
|> But I still think it is better to identify what bit of code in some component
|> of the X window system is futzing with the screen blanking and make it stop.
|>
| Have you checked the "/etc/sysconfig/powersave/....." to see if any of the
| scripts is doing the blanking?; expecially when not using gnome or kde.
/etc/sysconfig: No such file or directory
I've never seen Slackware create any such directory. Is that an X thing?
Even this command comes up empty: find /etc /var -print | fgrep -i sysconfig
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:45 pm |
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On 2008-07-25, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net <phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net> wrote:
Quote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:37:27 -0500 nobody <annonymous at (no spam) none.com> wrote:
| On 2008-07-24, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net <phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net> wrote:
|> On 23 Jul 2008 13:38:46 GMT Niklaus Kuehnis <kuehnik_0505 at (no spam) gmx-topmail.de> wrote:
|>| phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net wrote:
|>|> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:50:08 GMT Bill Marcum <marcumbill at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote:
|>|> | On 2008-07-21, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net <phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net> wrote:
|>|> |
|>|> |> I sure hope it isn't a case of some magic subset and in a specific order that
|>|> |> is required to do this. There should be a setting somewhere that controls
|>|> |> how long with no input before blanking or running the screen saver. Maybe if
|>|> |> that value is set to 0 it would disable.
|>|> |
|>|> |> I'm also finding that on text console, this command that should prevent the
|>|> |> blanking there, sometimes does not (e.g. sometimes it blanks out anyway):
|>|> |
|>|> |> setterm -blank 0
|>|> |
|>|> |> I also tried this inside xterm to see if xterm would "know what to do". No
|>|> |> such luck.
|>|> |
|>|> | If the monitor itself has a menu, you might be able to disable power
|>|> | saving there.
|>|
|>|> It's not the power saving I'm trying to disabled. The screen goes blank/black.
|>|> I want the image (weather radar) to stay on the screen all the time. Imagine
|>|> it as a kiosk or as a video feeder to a cable TV weather radar channel (which
|>|> reminds of me of a few times I have seen a MS Windows blue screen on some
|>|> cable text channels).
|>|
|>| Just an idea: Could you send a periodic keyboard event, e.g. with
|>| xvkbd or maybe with expect?
|
|> I don't know what xvkbd is. How would expect send a keyboard event? If I
|> stuff one in to an xterm pty it won't be seen by X as an input, but only as
|> xterm output. I have tried stuffing keyboard events into /dev/tty10 but the
|> X server running on tty10 doesn't see it (I'm assuming because it accesses
|> the keyboard at a lower level so it sees the ups and downs, not just the
|> ASCII queue). Maybe I need to write a kernel patch to inject keyboard events
|> at a lower level (e.g. key scan code and up/down).
|
|> But I still think it is better to identify what bit of code in some component
|> of the X window system is futzing with the screen blanking and make it stop.
|
| Have you checked the "/etc/sysconfig/powersave/....." to see if any of the
| scripts is doing the blanking?; expecially when not using gnome or kde.
/etc/sysconfig: No such file or directory
I've never seen Slackware create any such directory. Is that an X thing?
Even this command comes up empty: find /etc /var -print | fgrep -i sysconfig
Guess "/etc/sysconfig" is a SuSE thing.. & not what other distributions
do. Would imagine even "X" will be different for the various distros.. |
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:45:51 -0500 nobody <annonymous at (no spam) none.com> wrote:
| On 2008-07-25, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net <phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net> wrote:
|> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:37:27 -0500 nobody <annonymous at (no spam) none.com> wrote:
|>| On 2008-07-24, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net <phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net> wrote:
|>|> On 23 Jul 2008 13:38:46 GMT Niklaus Kuehnis <kuehnik_0505 at (no spam) gmx-topmail.de> wrote:
|>|>| phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net wrote:
|>|>|> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:50:08 GMT Bill Marcum <marcumbill at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote:
|>|>|> | On 2008-07-21, phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net <phil-news-nospam at (no spam) ipal.net> wrote:
|>|>|> |>
|>|>|> |> I sure hope it isn't a case of some magic subset and in a specific order that
|>|>|> |> is required to do this. There should be a setting somewhere that controls
|>|>|> |> how long with no input before blanking or running the screen saver. Maybe if
|>|>|> |> that value is set to 0 it would disable.
|>|>|> |>
|>|>|> |> I'm also finding that on text console, this command that should prevent the
|>|>|> |> blanking there, sometimes does not (e.g. sometimes it blanks out anyway):
|>|>|> |>
|>|>|> |> setterm -blank 0
|>|>|> |>
|>|>|> |> I also tried this inside xterm to see if xterm would "know what to do". No
|>|>|> |> such luck.
|>|>|> |>
|>|>|> | If the monitor itself has a menu, you might be able to disable power
|>|>|> | saving there.
|>|>|
|>|>|> It's not the power saving I'm trying to disabled. The screen goes blank/black.
|>|>|> I want the image (weather radar) to stay on the screen all the time. Imagine
|>|>|> it as a kiosk or as a video feeder to a cable TV weather radar channel (which
|>|>|> reminds of me of a few times I have seen a MS Windows blue screen on some
|>|>|> cable text channels).
|>|>|
|>|>| Just an idea: Could you send a periodic keyboard event, e.g. with
|>|>| xvkbd or maybe with expect?
|>|>
|>|> I don't know what xvkbd is. How would expect send a keyboard event? If I
|>|> stuff one in to an xterm pty it won't be seen by X as an input, but only as
|>|> xterm output. I have tried stuffing keyboard events into /dev/tty10 but the
|>|> X server running on tty10 doesn't see it (I'm assuming because it accesses
|>|> the keyboard at a lower level so it sees the ups and downs, not just the
|>|> ASCII queue). Maybe I need to write a kernel patch to inject keyboard events
|>|> at a lower level (e.g. key scan code and up/down).
|>|>
|>|> But I still think it is better to identify what bit of code in some component
|>|> of the X window system is futzing with the screen blanking and make it stop.
|>|>
|>| Have you checked the "/etc/sysconfig/powersave/....." to see if any of the
|>| scripts is doing the blanking?; expecially when not using gnome or kde.
|>
|> /etc/sysconfig: No such file or directory
|>
|> I've never seen Slackware create any such directory. Is that an X thing?
|>
|> Even this command comes up empty: find /etc /var -print | fgrep -i sysconfig
|>
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| Guess "/etc/sysconfig" is a SuSE thing.. & not what other distributions
| do. Would imagine even "X" will be different for the various distros..
And maybe the command/option to tell X to not blank out is different, too.
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