Hmm Runlevel 3?

Ok, so like I said, I know enough about Suse / linux to know I need to do
an init 3 to get there and I do it.

Now I start sax2 and it finds the card, configures it and all works well,
finally.

On Friday 10 March 2006 00:55 Richie Spano wrote:

Hmm Runlevel 3?

Ok, so like I said, I know enough about Suse / linux to know I need to do
an init 3 to get there and I do it.

Now I start sax2 and it finds the card, configures it and all works well,
finally.

Sorry - you obviously know a lot more about this than I do - just refresh my
memory....

Is that the same as typing "3" in the boot prompt options or something?
I seem to recall doing it once when 3D went bananas.... I thought I typed
the "3", then started sax2 .... would that be about right?

Suse 10.0 with all patches to date, and that's a lot of patches.

The object:

Remove an Nvidia MX4000 PCI card and install an Nvidia FX5500 AGP card.
Both the Linux system and the Windows system are running the Nvidia
drivers, for Linux this is "nvidia not nv".

Windows:

Power down, remove old card, install new card.
Power up and system comes up at 800x500 @60hz. (yikes!)
Right click on desktop, select porperties-> 1280x1024 and 85 hz.
Done....
It all works perfectly.



Linux Suse 10.0:
Power down, remove old card, install new card.
Power up and system dumps me at a text login prompt.
Now what?

First thing I try is booting the install DVD and trying to rescue the
system.
It tells me all is well.

Ok, so *I* know a little about Suse so I login, su to root and start yast.
However, clicking on "graphics card" produces a screen flash and nothing
more.

I try some other selections and they all seem to work, so yast is working
AFAIKT.

So now what?

Ok... I know a little about SuSE so I try and start SaX.. Doesn't work.

I do a find and figure out they changed the name to Sax2, silly me.

Try to start Sax2 but it complains and says I have to be at runlevel 3 in
order to run Sax2.

Hmm Runlevel 3?

Ok, so like I said, I know enough about Suse / linux to know I need to do
an init 3 to get there and I do it.

Now I start sax2 and it finds the card, configures it and all works well,
finally.


Now you tell me, how in the hell is any new user of Suse or any other
Linux for that matter, going to figure this out?
Upgrading video cards is quite common.

Again, Windows handles this in a simple, logical manner.

Linux?

A new user wouldn't stand a chance getting this working.


So now you can return back to denial, call me names, ignore the truth
and go back to living in your caves until the next truth about the
sloppiness of Linux gets posted.

mwk

Very interesting. My experiences have been pretty much the opposite. MS
usually requires to install new drivers whenever ANYthing changes whereas
Linux is usually quite happy using an nvidia driver on any nvidia card.

On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:50:58 -0700, ray wrote:


Very interesting. My experiences have been pretty much the opposite. MS
usually requires to install new drivers whenever ANYthing changes whereas
Linux is usually quite happy using an nvidia driver on any nvidia card.

One major difference....
Original card was a PCI card.
New card is an AGP card.

Looking at boot message log shows all kinds of "can't find pci card" type
messages for Linux.

However, again Windows dealt with it fine.

FWIW, I have swapped motherboards under Linux and had no troubles.
Windows?
A complete disaster usually involving a complete re-install.
So go figure.....

So if you had a motherboard with an AGP slot, why would you start off by
installing a PCI video card? Especially when the MX4000 is available in
both forms.

You're like a little puppy, just running around in circles for no reason
other than to chase your tail. First Linux is sub-par, then it blows
Windows away? Which is it?

FWIW, I have swapped motherboards under Linux and had no troubles.
Windows?
A complete disaster usually involving a complete re-install.
So go figure.....

"There is no way, you or any of your psycho Linux gang can justify the
need
for the end user to go through what Suse Linux requires to simply swap
a
video card. "

You have a very interesting way of making friends. You also seem to be
confusing some terms and losing site of the big picture here. SuSE is
just one distribution. No distro can be seen as the model of all
things Linux. There are thousands of distributions, each focusing on
specific goals. Don't let a failing in SuSE discourage you. The Linux
kernel project does not answer to SuSE, it's more of a mutual
arrangement to cooperate. Have you attempted the switch in Ubuntu?
Fedora, perhaps? I'd suggest you try another distro before you blast
the entire community.

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:13:04 +0000, Bobbie wrote:

While dancing and signing to Enya's Carribean Blue, Richie Spano
exclaimed:




Yawwn...
You can't address the points.

Can't provide any reasonable rebuttle.

So why should I waste time with you?

I'd suggest you try another distro before you blast
the entire community

FWIW, I have swapped motherboards under Linux and had no troubles.
Windows?
A complete disaster usually involving a complete re-install.
So go figure.....

Absolutely true! Also, if it is XP, one has to get on the phone with
big brother to get it activated again.

Linux advocate technique #1: Call the person an idiot.....

You dorks get sucked in every single time....

You make yourselves look like fools with every message you post....

It's like shooting fish in a barrel...