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Vitus Jensen...
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:10 am
Guest
Hej!

Has anyone experienced slowdowns after updating from 1.5 to 1.6? When I
run the 1.6 version switching tabs in firefox takes 2 seconds, switching
maximized windows or desktops takes a lot longer. Entering keys into
input fields feels sluggish etc. When the update came a lot of things
were reinstalled but going back to

x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r6
x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.2.5
x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4

fixed the slowdown issue. Now all reactions are pratically immediate
again.

Thinkpad R51e, Pentium-M 1.73
ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]

As I found no mention via google I'm thinking about filing a bug. In
gentoo? Or xorg? xf86?

By[t]e,
Vitus

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Vitus Jensen, Hannover, Germany, Earth, Universe (current)
 
J.O. Aho...
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:50 am
Guest
Vitus Jensen wrote:
Quote:
Hej!

Has anyone experienced slowdowns after updating from 1.5 to 1.6? When I
run the 1.6 version switching tabs in firefox takes 2 seconds, switching
maximized windows or desktops takes a lot longer. Entering keys into
input fields feels sluggish etc. When the update came a lot of things
were reinstalled but going back to

x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r6
x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.2.5
x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4
fixed the slowdown issue. Now all reactions are pratically immediate
again.

Did you the following after the upgrade:

You must rebuild all drivers if upgrading from xorg-server 1.5
or earlier, because the ABI changed. If you cannot start X because
of module version mismatch errors, this is your problem.
You can generate a list of all installed packages in the x11-drivers
category using this command:
emerge portage-utils; qlist -I -C x11-drivers/

Think there was lately quite many packages which required rebuilding on
packages depending on them, not doing so could end up in a system not
well working.

I can recommend you to install elogv and then add to your make.conf:
PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="save"
PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="warn error log save"

and you have an excellent tool to go back and see the messages from packages
installed and some error messages if a build fails.


Quote:
As I found no mention via google I'm thinking about filing a bug. In
gentoo? Or xorg? xf86?

If you encounter any non-configuration issues, please file a bug at
http://bugs.gentoo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Gentoo%20Linux
and attach /etc/X11/xorg.conf, /var/log/Xorg.0.log and emerge info
You can choose which drivers are installed with the VIDEO_CARDS
and INPUT_DEVICES settings. Set these like any other Portage
variable in /etc/make.conf or on the command line.


--

//Aho
 
Vitus Jensen...
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:35 pm
Guest
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, J.O. Aho wrote:

Quote:
Vitus Jensen wrote:

Has anyone experienced slowdowns after updating from 1.5 to 1.6? When I
run the 1.6 version switching tabs in firefox takes 2 seconds, switching
maximized windows or desktops takes a lot longer. Entering keys into
input fields feels sluggish etc. When the update came a lot of things
were reinstalled but going back to

x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r6
x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.2.5
x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4
fixed the slowdown issue. Now all reactions are pratically immediate
again.

Did you the following after the upgrade:

You must rebuild all drivers if upgrading from xorg-server 1.5
or earlier, because the ABI changed.
....


Yes, I did, the affected drivers are those listed above. I doubt X would
start without it.


Quote:
I can recommend you to install elogv and then add to your make.conf:
PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="save"
PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="warn error log save"

Already in make.conf. I do a lot of emerging from inside screen sessions
without watching that stuff and elogv is really helpfull.


Quote:
As I found no mention via google I'm thinking about filing a bug. In
gentoo? Or xorg? xf86?

If you encounter any non-configuration issues, please file a bug at
http://bugs.gentoo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Gentoo%20Linux
and attach /etc/X11/xorg.conf, /var/log/Xorg.0.log and emerge info
You can choose which drivers are installed with the VIDEO_CARDS
and INPUT_DEVICES settings. Set these like any other Portage
variable in /etc/make.conf or on the command line.

OK, on monday I will remove the mask, retry the upgrade and file a bug if
it happens again. BTW: Xorg.logs are practically the same and xorg.conf is
empty.

Vitus

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Vitus Jensen, Hannover, Germany, Earth, Universe (current)
 
J.O. Aho...
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:00 pm
Guest
Vitus Jensen wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, J.O. Aho wrote:
Vitus Jensen wrote:

I can recommend you to install elogv and then add to your make.conf:
PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="save"
PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="warn error log save"

Already in make.conf. I do a lot of emerging from inside screen
sessions without watching that stuff and elogv is really helpfull.

Self I went that way recently.

Quote:
As I found no mention via google I'm thinking about filing a bug. In
gentoo? Or xorg? xf86?

By the way, even if things in portage has names like xf86, it's Xorg stuff, so
you should never file a bug report to xfree86.

Quote:
If you encounter any non-configuration issues, please file a bug at
http://bugs.gentoo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Gentoo%20Linux
and attach /etc/X11/xorg.conf, /var/log/Xorg.0.log and emerge info
You can choose which drivers are installed with the VIDEO_CARDS
and INPUT_DEVICES settings. Set these like any other Portage
variable in /etc/make.conf or on the command line.

OK, on monday I will remove the mask, retry the upgrade and file a bug
if it happens again. BTW: Xorg.logs are practically the same and
xorg.conf is empty.

Mine xorg.conf is quite full, I really don't tryst hal to do what it's
supposed and it's far more complicated to configure hal than xorg, could be
better if you generated a xorg.conf whit options for your xf86-video-ati driver.

Assuming that you are using x86, have you tried the ati-drivers from AMD?

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//Aho
 
Vitus Jensen...
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:30 am
Guest
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, J.O. Aho wrote:
Quote:
Vitus Jensen wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, J.O. Aho wrote:
Vitus Jensen wrote:

....
Quote:
If you encounter any non-configuration issues, please file a bug at
http://bugs.gentoo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Gentoo%20Linux
and attach /etc/X11/xorg.conf, /var/log/Xorg.0.log and emerge info
You can choose which drivers are installed with the VIDEO_CARDS
and INPUT_DEVICES settings. Set these like any other Portage
variable in /etc/make.conf or on the command line.

OK, on monday I will remove the mask, retry the upgrade and file a bug
if it happens again. BTW: Xorg.logs are practically the same and
xorg.conf is empty.

Mine xorg.conf is quite full, I really don't tryst hal to do what it's
supposed and it's far more complicated to configure hal than xorg, could be
better if you generated a xorg.conf whit options for your xf86-video-ati driver.

Erhmm, how can I say this... You know, my xorg.conf wasn't THAT empty.
Most things were already gone but there was still a section for the radeon
driver containing

Option "DynamicClocks" "true"
Option "ColorTiling" "true"
Option "EnableDepthMoves" "true"
Option "RenderAccel" "true"
Option "AGPMode" "8"
Option "AGPFastWrite" "true"
Option "EnablePageFlip" "true"
Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
Option "NoDRI"

Without xorg.conf, xorg-server 1.6 is fast, too. Might be DynamicClocks,
that's disabled now. Or DRI is required now (did hang the machine in
older versions).

Quote:
Assuming that you are using x86, have you tried the ati-drivers from AMD?

The binary-only driver, "fglrx"? No. I've got the impression that it's
only better in 3D performance (which I don't care for) and may hurt
suspend/resume on my laptop.

Thank you for your help! I should have looked a little better into my
configuration, tho :-(

Vitus

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