I was wondering, since the AMD K7 Slot A's and the Alpha 21264's use
the same AMD motherboard, the 751 Northbridge, would it be possible to
snatch up an AMD ABIT K7 and plug in a good old Alpha CPU? Say from
something like an UP1500? Just wondering... It would be nice to have
Alpha CPU with AGP/PC133 mem... Will L G


Hardly. If I'm not mistaken, the UP1500 uses DDR-RAM, thus being faster

On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 13:54:58 GMT
" DiskMan" <nobody@thewheel.com> wrote:

I was wondering, since the AMD K7 Slot A's and the Alpha 21264's use
the same AMD motherboard, the 751 Northbridge, would it be possible to
snatch up an AMD ABIT K7 and plug in a good old Alpha CPU? Say from
something like an UP1500? Just wondering... It would be nice to have
Alpha CPU with AGP/PC133 mem... Will L G


Hardly. If I'm not mistaken, the UP1500 uses DDR-RAM, thus being faster
than an Athlon-board with PC133-mem. On the other hand, what Jay said,
you would have to rewrite the firmware and you'd need to resolder a
matching socket. Back in the days (TM) there where plans to build
systems, that could take either, Alpha and Athlon. But since the AMDs
back then used Slot A/Socket A and the Alphas have been equipped with
Slot B and Socket Whatchamacallit, there was no way to get them both
work in the same board.
Too bad, AMD was so weak back then. Would have been nice if AMD would
have bought the rights to the Alpha.

Marc

Yea it would have been nice, just a thought. You know, the Alpha still
lives on though, its called the Itranium... No joke, Itel bought the
Alpha team from Compaq then incorporated the EV8 in the latest
Itaniums...

Pretty wild when it wasn't that long ago when Digital [I
think it was when they were owned by them] sued Intel for patent
infringment... I guess they simply mismanaged the monies won... Will L
G

On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 00:36:07 GMT
" DiskMan" <nobody@thewheel.com> wrote:

Yea it would have been nice, just a thought. You know, the Alpha still
lives on though, its called the Itranium... No joke, Itel bought the
Alpha team from Compaq then incorporated the EV8 in the latest
Itaniums...

Well yes, parts of it, although I'm not sure that the technology is
already incorporated into available CPUs.

Pretty wild when it wasn't that long ago when Digital [I
think it was when they were owned by them] sued Intel for patent
infringment... I guess they simply mismanaged the monies won... Will L
G

Yeah. Funny story, that. DEC sued Intel, DEC won, Intel bought Alpha.
What went wrong?

Marc

A little story about the use of Alpha tech in Intel Itaniums:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=578

On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 12:26:44 GMT
" DiskMan" <nobody@thewheel.com> wrote:

A little story about the use of Alpha tech in Intel Itaniums:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=578

Quite dated *g*
OK, that's what I had burried in the back of my head as well. So they
don't ship those EV8-enabled Itanics yet. Montecito is due sometime in
2006 or possibly even 2007 (6 years late of the origninal EV8-schedule).
Quite impressive work of Intel & HP, if you ask me *snicker*

Marc

Yea, I sure running through Digital/Dec/HP/Compaq licensing must have
been a 'B'
I still have my eye out for a UP1500 w/AGP support though... Will L G

Together with an 800MHz EV68 that one would be a dream... Still gonna

Yeah. Funny story, that. DEC sued Intel, DEC won, Intel bought Alpha.
What went wrong?

In article <20051207093422.6e3fd452.fishtank.spam@web.de>,
Marc Schlensog <fishtank.spam@web.de> wrote:
[ ... ]
Yeah. Funny story, that. DEC sued Intel, DEC won, Intel bought Alpha.
What went wrong?

Greedy liar took control of company, laid off a bunch of people to
make it salable while lying about plans to sell, sold company and
pocketed a lot of money while shafting employees.

The usual, in other words.


Gary
My VAXen are bigger than your AlphaServer

Gary Heston wrote:
In article <20051207093422.6e3fd452.fishtank.spam@web.de>,
Marc Schlensog <fishtank.spam@web.de> wrote:
[ ... ]
Yeah. Funny story, that. DEC sued Intel, DEC won, Intel bought Alpha.
What went wrong?

Greedy liar took control of company, laid off a bunch of people to
make it salable while lying about plans to sell, sold company and
pocketed a lot of money while shafting employees.

The usual, in other words.

are you referring to Mr. Palmer?

Now, now--I was careful to not mention any names. Still can't believe
there wasn't an SEC prosecution or a class-action suit. Should have
been both.
What would this have changed ?

Gary
YG

Gary Heston wrote:
Now, now--I was careful to not mention any names. Still can't believe
there wasn't an SEC prosecution or a class-action suit. Should have
been both.
What would this have changed ?

the harm was done anyway and on purpose.

Intel & Co would have done their 'job' anyway.

In article <43990efa$0$18578$7a628cd7@news.club-internet.fr>,
YG <whygee@f-cpu.org> wrote:
Gary Heston wrote:
Now, now--I was careful to not mention any names. Still can't believe
there wasn't an SEC prosecution or a class-action suit. Should have
been both.
What would this have changed ?

Greedy liar would have lost his money, and hopefully spent several years
in a cell.

the harm was done anyway and on purpose.

It may not have brought back Digital and the Alpha, but it would have
served as a deterrent to the next corporate hack artist.

Intel & Co would have done their 'job' anyway.

Maybe. It would have been fun to see what might have transpired if Compaq
had sold/licensed the Alpha to AMD...


Gary

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A worthwhile endeavour:
http://www.thebrestcancersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CTDSites

Yea, i would have liked to see that. I bet the Alpha linux would have most
likely have been the AMD 64 [Opteron] line. Its pretty wild, AMD/Intel had
so many issues with the 64bit format its not even funny. When they finally
got it 'worked out', Alpha still clobbered them mhz for mhz. Will L G

"Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
news:11pkg5i3c98d953@corp.supernews.com...
In article <43990efa$0$18578$7a628cd7@news.club-internet.fr>,
YG <whygee@f-cpu.org> wrote:
Gary Heston wrote:
Now, now--I was careful to not mention any names. Still can't believe
there wasn't an SEC prosecution or a class-action suit. Should have
been both.
What would this have changed ?

Greedy liar would have lost his money, and hopefully spent several years
in a cell.

the harm was done anyway and on purpose.

It may not have brought back Digital and the Alpha, but it would have
served as a deterrent to the next corporate hack artist.

Intel & Co would have done their 'job' anyway.

Maybe. It would have been fun to see what might have transpired if
Compaq
had sold/licensed the Alpha to AMD...


Gary

--
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A worthwhile endeavour:
http://www.thebrestcancersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CTDSites