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| Alan Borcic |
 Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:57 pm |
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Hello guys,
I would like to ask you for your opinion and debate on my challenge.
I want to run small Internet business from cheap used computer ($200).
I would need Web Server, Mail Server, FTP Server, DNS, Firewall, in
another words whole nine yards.
I am Windows user although I was playing for a while with Mandrake.
I gave up since I got tired of tweaking OS all the time. CD burner does
not work, Kaza is too slow, AVI movies can not be played, etc.
My computer is my tool, not my life. I am not dye hard computer fan
enough to spend every moment of my free time playing with Linux.
Anyway, friend of mine is advising me to put Win 2003 on that used
computer although I am not sure what kind of performance I can expect
from Win 2003 running of Pentium II  . He also told me that Windows is
much faster and easier to set up which is probably true. However, for
reasons unknown to me, I still love Linux, and I want to give it a try.
However, considering what I mentioned above about not willing to spend
every moment of my free time tweaking Linux, I would ask you for your
opinion about which Linux distribution can run smoothly what I need with
minimum amount hassle. I want to focus on business, not on OS issues.
Thanks in advance
Alan |
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| Alan Connor |
| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:47 pm |
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On alt.os.linux, in
<ioBIe.7284$z91.775889@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Alan Borcic"
wrote:
Quote: Hello guys, I would like to ask you for your opinion and debate
on my challenge. I want to run small Internet business from
cheap used computer ($200). I would need Web Server, Mail
Server, FTP Server, DNS, Firewall, in another words whole nine
yards. I am Windows user although I was playing for a while
with Mandrake. I gave up since I got tired of tweaking OS
all the time. CD burner does not work, Kaza is too slow, AVI
movies can not be played, etc. My computer is my tool, not
my life. I am not dye hard computer fan enough to spend every
moment of my free time playing with Linux. Anyway, friend
of mine is advising me to put Win 2003 on that used computer
although I am not sure what kind of performance I can expect
from Win 2003 running of Pentium II . He also told me that
Windows is much faster and easier to set up which is probably
true. However, for reasons unknown to me, I still love Linux,
and I want to give it a try. However, considering what I
mentioned above about not willing to spend every moment of my
free time tweaking Linux, I would ask you for your opinion
about which Linux distribution can run smoothly what I need
with minimum amount hassle. I want to focus on business, not on
OS issues. Thanks in advance
Alan
Windows. Linux is for amateurs.
Real Linux Runners are not into competing with Windows because
in order to do that Linux would have to become just like Windows.
Mindless consumers, and the programmers that feed their habits,
and office drones and bean counters should use Windows.
AC
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People who post through google take and take and never give
back. Ever seen one of them help anyone? If they are asking
about anything but how to use a real newsreader, PLEASE DON'T
HELP THEM. -----------> news.software.readers |
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| Dan |
| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:32 pm |
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On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 23:57:42 -0400, Alan Borcic
<alanborcic@sympatico.ca> wrote:
If you want to run server software, run it on Linux. Linux is
cheaper, better, more reliable and more secure.
Many Linux distros, like Mandrake, Suse and Fedora, have a resource
hungry gui. So does Windows. If you want to run a gui, you should
really think of getting a better spec'd machine.
But you don't have to run a gui like Gnome or KDE with Linux. I'm
using Debian Sarge on a similar machine to yours, running similar
services. There is no gui installed. Linux programs can be
configured via their configuration file and run from the command line.
You can do this from the console, or you can do it from a remote PC.
You can even remotely access your Linux server from a Windows box
using WinSCP and PuTTY.
If you're used to Windows, then Linux can take a while to get used to.
But stick with it and you'll wonder why anyone would run server
software under Windows.
Dan
Quote: Hello guys,
I would like to ask you for your opinion and debate on my challenge.
I want to run small Internet business from cheap used computer ($200).
I would need Web Server, Mail Server, FTP Server, DNS, Firewall, in
another words whole nine yards.
I am Windows user although I was playing for a while with Mandrake.
I gave up since I got tired of tweaking OS all the time. CD burner does
not work, Kaza is too slow, AVI movies can not be played, etc.
My computer is my tool, not my life. I am not dye hard computer fan
enough to spend every moment of my free time playing with Linux.
Anyway, friend of mine is advising me to put Win 2003 on that used
computer although I am not sure what kind of performance I can expect
from Win 2003 running of Pentium II . He also told me that Windows is
much faster and easier to set up which is probably true. However, for
reasons unknown to me, I still love Linux, and I want to give it a try.
However, considering what I mentioned above about not willing to spend
every moment of my free time tweaking Linux, I would ask you for your
opinion about which Linux distribution can run smoothly what I need with
minimum amount hassle. I want to focus on business, not on OS issues.
Thanks in advance
Alan |
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| Alan Borcic |
| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 6:18 am |
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Alan Connor wrote:
Quote: On alt.os.linux, in
ioBIe.7284$z91.775889@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Alan Borcic"
wrote:
Hello guys, I would like to ask you for your opinion and debate
on my challenge. I want to run small Internet business from
cheap used computer ($200). I would need Web Server, Mail
Server, FTP Server, DNS, Firewall, in another words whole nine
yards. I am Windows user although I was playing for a while
with Mandrake. I gave up since I got tired of tweaking OS
all the time. CD burner does not work, Kaza is too slow, AVI
movies can not be played, etc. My computer is my tool, not
my life. I am not dye hard computer fan enough to spend every
moment of my free time playing with Linux. Anyway, friend
of mine is advising me to put Win 2003 on that used computer
although I am not sure what kind of performance I can expect
from Win 2003 running of Pentium II . He also told me that
Windows is much faster and easier to set up which is probably
true. However, for reasons unknown to me, I still love Linux,
and I want to give it a try. However, considering what I
mentioned above about not willing to spend every moment of my
free time tweaking Linux, I would ask you for your opinion
about which Linux distribution can run smoothly what I need
with minimum amount hassle. I want to focus on business, not on
OS issues. Thanks in advance
Alan
Windows. Linux is for amateurs.
Real Linux Runners are not into competing with Windows because
in order to do that Linux would have to become just like Windows.
Mindless consumers, and the programmers that feed their habits,
and office drones and bean counters should use Windows.
AC
Mr. Connor, your sarcasm and lack of manners is not desired here. All
the best
Alan |
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| Chris F.A. Johnson |
| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:51 am |
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On 2005-08-05, Alan Borcic wrote:
Quote: Hello guys,
I would like to ask you for your opinion and debate on my challenge.
I want to run small Internet business from cheap used computer ($200).
CDN$200? That's meaningless. What computer will you get for that?
What speed? How much memory? How big a hard drive? Will it include
network card? Are drivers available for all the components? Etc...
Quote: I would need Web Server, Mail Server, FTP Server, DNS, Firewall, in
another words whole nine yards.
What will the load be? How many hits do you expect on the web
server? What size files? Ditto for the FTP server.
Quote: I am Windows user although I was playing for a while with Mandrake.
Good choice for a desktop box; quite adequate for a server.
Quote: I gave up since I got tired of tweaking OS all the time.
Then don't. You do it only because you can.
Quote: CD burner does not work,
What does "does not work" mean? I recently bought a DVD/CD burner
and have had no problem burning CDs with either Debian or Mandriva
LE2005.
Do you need that for a business?
Quote: AVI movies can not be played, etc.
I don't think I've ever tried, but I'm sure they can be played.
[2 minutes later] I found an avi on my drive and played it with
mplayer; it was a kaffeine logo, so I assume kaffeine would have
no problem with it, either.
Quote: My computer is my tool, not my life.
Same here.
Quote: I am not dye hard computer fan enough to spend every moment of my
free time playing with Linux.
I spend some time playing with Linux, but use it mostly for work
(writing, composing crossword puzzles, preparing teaching
materials for chess classes, etc.).
Quote: Anyway, friend of mine is advising me to put Win 2003 on that used
computer although I am not sure what kind of performance I can
expect from Win 2003 running of Pentium II .
Friends don't advise friends to install Windows.
Quote: He also told me that Windows is much faster and easier to set up
which is probably true.
Unlikely.
Quote: However, for reasons unknown to me, I still love Linux, and I want
to give it a try. However, considering what I mentioned above about
not willing to spend every moment of my free time tweaking Linux, I
would ask you for your opinion about which Linux distribution can
run smoothly what I need with minimum amount hassle. I want to focus
on business, not on OS issues.
Mandriva or SuSe are probably your best choices. But make sure
your hardware will work first.
--
Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfaj.freeshell.org>
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Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach, 2005, Apress
<http://www.torfree.net/~chris/books/cfaj/ssr.html> |
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| ray |
| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:53 am |
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On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 23:57:42 -0400, Alan Borcic wrote:
Quote: Hello guys,
I would like to ask you for your opinion and debate on my challenge.
I want to run small Internet business from cheap used computer ($200).
I would need Web Server, Mail Server, FTP Server, DNS, Firewall, in
another words whole nine yards.
I am Windows user although I was playing for a while with Mandrake.
I gave up since I got tired of tweaking OS all the time. CD burner does
not work, Kaza is too slow, AVI movies can not be played, etc.
My computer is my tool, not my life. I am not dye hard computer fan
enough to spend every moment of my free time playing with Linux.
Anyway, friend of mine is advising me to put Win 2003 on that used
computer although I am not sure what kind of performance I can expect
from Win 2003 running of Pentium II . He also told me that Windows is
much faster and easier to set up which is probably true. However, for
reasons unknown to me, I still love Linux, and I want to give it a try.
However, considering what I mentioned above about not willing to spend
every moment of my free time tweaking Linux, I would ask you for your
opinion about which Linux distribution can run smoothly what I need with
minimum amount hassle. I want to focus on business, not on OS issues.
Thanks in advance
Alan
If you really believe that Linux requires constant tweaking, etc. then why
are you even considering it? Seriously - it is really quite trouble free
once it is installed and set up for your needs. I spent several days early
in the year installing and setting up Mandrake 10.1 on the public access
internet computers at the local library. Since then, I drop by every
couple of weeks for an hour or two to do updates. And that is it. They run.
Would have been nice if you had actually given some machine specs - $200
doesn't really say much - the $200 machines from WalMart don't look that
bad and would easily run a full-up Linux with Kde or Gnome (can get them
with Linux pre-installed). If your machine is less than about 500mhz and
doesn't have at least 256mb ram - I'd be looking at something 'lighter' -
either no gui (try that with MS) or something like XFCE or enlightenment.
I do not agree that MS is easier to install and set up. I would suggest
Mandrake 10.1, SuSE, Fedora, Ubuntu, or any other modern distro - check
www.distrowatch.com. |
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| Ivan Marsh |
| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:59 am |
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On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 04:47:42 +0000, Alan Connor wrote:
Quote: On alt.os.linux, in
ioBIe.7284$z91.775889@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Alan Borcic" wrote:
Hello guys, I would like to ask you for your opinion and debate on my
challenge. I want to run small Internet business from cheap used
computer ($200). I would need Web Server, Mail Server, FTP Server,
DNS, Firewall, in another words whole nine yards. I am Windows user
although I was playing for a while with Mandrake. I gave up since I
got tired of tweaking OS all the time. CD burner does not work, Kaza is
too slow, AVI movies can not be played, etc. My computer is my tool,
not my life. I am not dye hard computer fan enough to spend every
moment of my free time playing with Linux. Anyway, friend of mine is
advising me to put Win 2003 on that used computer although I am not
sure what kind of performance I can expect from Win 2003 running of
Pentium II . He also told me that Windows is much faster and easier
to set up which is probably true. However, for reasons unknown to me, I
still love Linux, and I want to give it a try. However, considering
what I mentioned above about not willing to spend every moment of my
free time tweaking Linux, I would ask you for your opinion about which
Linux distribution can run smoothly what I need with minimum amount
hassle. I want to focus on business, not on OS issues. Thanks in
advance
Alan
Windows. Linux is for amateurs.
Real Linux Runners are not into competing with Windows because in order
to do that Linux would have to become just like Windows.
Mindless consumers, and the programmers that feed their habits, and
office drones and bean counters should use Windows.
Hi, 20+ year veteran of the IT world here that's been using Unix since the
time that windows were glass openings in the walls of a house. ...and
Windows since it's first incarnation.
Everything requested by the OP can be done easily and inexpensively by the
OP... with any distro of Linux. It can also be done with Windows for a
price.
If you want to use Linux you have to learn how to use it. Linux is just as
easy, if not easier than Windows... but things that are different aren't
the same. You cannot assume that Windows experience is going to translate
to using any other OS... whereas *nix experience does translate to being
able to use almost any other OS.
If you're actually looking for a distro to run a small business I'd
suggest looking into Suse or RedHat... or even Fedora if you don't think
you'll need commercial support.
--
"Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed."
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| Ivan Marsh |
| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:34 am |
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On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:09:05 +0000, Alan Connor wrote:
Quote: Ever hear of _free_speech_?
Yes. *plonk*
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"Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed."
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| heldmar |
| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:12 am |
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You should try Ubuntu Linux, is a Debian based distro which makes life
easier in linux world. As it claims to be, it's a "Linux for human
beings" so, you'll find pretty smooth and cute, very Windows similar
but with the power of Linux and you can use it as a server perfectly
and as a Desktop machine. I've been using it as a server (security
server) and it runs perfectly! |
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| Steve Ackman |
| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 1:22 pm |
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On 6 Aug 2005 08:12:14 -0700, heldmar <heldmar@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: You should try Ubuntu Linux, is a Debian based distro which makes life
easier in linux world.
To whom are you replying???
Please use attributions, and quote judiciously.
This is usenet, not Google!
Ubuntu includes every language under the sun. I only
speak on fluently, and 3 others barely. Why do I need
all those languages?
Quote: I found it to be
so, you'll find pretty smooth and cute, very Windows similar
Gack! |
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| cld71 |
| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:34 pm |
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