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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz...
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:22 am
 
I'm trying to install openSUSE 11.3 on a machine that is currently
running 10.3 with KDE3 applications. I did a full install of 11.3 and
left 10.3 alone[1]. When I tried to log on to the 11.3 system, Kwin
crashed. I then tried to log on to a guest account, which seemed to
work, and to root, which failed. My first thought was that there might
be garbage in ~/.kde4, but the root account only has /root/.kde. no
/root/.kde4.

The crash gives me a window with a General tab showing

We are sorry, Kwin closed unexpectedly.
You can help us improve KDE software by reporting this error.

Executable kwin PID 6904 Signal 6 (Aborted)

Shortly afterwards I get a popup

We are sorry, Kwin is unstable.
It seems to have crashed several times in a row.
You can select another window manager to try.

The window has a tab for gathering diagnostic data, but it seems to
time out when I try it.

Does anybody have any suggestions for either bypassing the problem or
gathering enough data to report a bug? I'd really like to migrate my
calendar and address book to KDE4 and my system to 11.3, and don't
want to switch to a different desktop.

[1] Given a choice, I always install new OS releases on separate
drives and keep old ones around as fallback. I can't recall
the last time I did a release upgrade.

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Darklight...
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:39 am
 
Shmuel Metz wrote:

Quote:
I'm trying to install openSUSE 11.3 on a machine that is currently
running 10.3 with KDE3 applications. I did a full install of 11.3 and
left 10.3 alone[1]. When I tried to log on to the 11.3 system, Kwin
crashed. I then tried to log on to a guest account, which seemed to
work, and to root, which failed. My first thought was that there might
be garbage in ~/.kde4, but the root account only has /root/.kde. no
/root/.kde4.

The crash gives me a window with a General tab showing

We are sorry, Kwin closed unexpectedly.
You can help us improve KDE software by reporting this error.

Executable kwin PID 6904 Signal 6 (Aborted)

Shortly afterwards I get a popup

We are sorry, Kwin is unstable.
It seems to have crashed several times in a row.
You can select another window manager to try.

The window has a tab for gathering diagnostic data, but it seems to
time out when I try it.

Does anybody have any suggestions for either bypassing the problem or
gathering enough data to report a bug? I'd really like to migrate my
calendar and address book to KDE4 and my system to 11.3, and don't
want to switch to a different desktop.

[1] Given a choice, I always install new OS releases on separate
drives and keep old ones around as fallback. I can't recall
the last time I did a release upgrade.


are you using the same home partition for 10.3 and 11.3
 
1jam...
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:00 pm
 
Shmuel Metz wrote:

Quote:
I'm trying to install openSUSE 11.3 on a machine that is currently
running 10.3 with KDE3 applications. I did a full install of 11.3 and
left 10.3 alone[1]. When I tried to log on to the 11.3 system, Kwin
crashed. I then tried to log on to a guest account, which seemed to
work, and to root, which failed. My first thought was that there might
be garbage in ~/.kde4, but the root account only has /root/.kde. no
/root/.kde4.

The crash gives me a window with a General tab showing

We are sorry, Kwin closed unexpectedly.
You can help us improve KDE software by reporting this error.

Executable kwin PID 6904 Signal 6 (Aborted)

Shortly afterwards I get a popup

We are sorry, Kwin is unstable.
It seems to have crashed several times in a row.
You can select another window manager to try.

The window has a tab for gathering diagnostic data, but it seems to
time out when I try it.

Does anybody have any suggestions for either bypassing the problem or
gathering enough data to report a bug? I'd really like to migrate my
calendar and address book to KDE4 and my system to 11.3, and don't
want to switch to a different desktop.

[1] Given a choice, I always install new OS releases on separate
drives and keep old ones around as fallback. I can't recall
the last time I did a release upgrade.


Howdy,

Maybe something to do with Kernel Mode Setting? try disabling it:

http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/docu/RELEASE-NOTES.en.html#05

What kind of graphics hw? (nvidia, ati, intel)
Did you leave the opensource driver in place (which comes by default), or
did you install a proprietary driver?
 
Darklight...
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:56 am
 
David Bolt wrote:

Quote:
On Sunday 17 Oct 2010 16:24, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
Darklight painted this mural:

Shmuel Metz wrote:

In <dYSdnZY6G4D-DyXRnZ2dnUVZ7r-dnZ2d at (no spam) bt.com>, on 10/15/2010
at 06:39 PM, Darklight <glen.herron at (no spam) btopenworld.com> said:

are you using the same home partition for 10.3 and 11.3

Yes.


If you were running 10.3 with kde3 you will have to reformat
your home folder kde3 and kde4 are incompatiable.

No they aren't.

When i tried
to do an upgrade from 10.3 kde3 to 11.2 kde4 and left my home
folder untouched when installing 11.2 this gave me no end of
problems like the ones your having.


I upgraded one of my machines from 10.3 to 11.2, and had no issues with
going from KDE3 to KDE4.

Just to let you know i went form 10.3 to 11.2 to 11.3

The last part of your upgrade is one thing I haven't done, at least not
in one jump. My 11.3 machine was used to test the various Factory
milestones, so it was a gradual upgrade from 11.2.

secondly when i installed 11.2 or 11.3 i can't remember which
and looked at the installation proposed partitioning table
the install wanted to use ext4 for root and ext3 for home.
i proceed and let the install do it's thing. This gave me no
end of problems.

I've not had a single issue with mixing ext3 and ext4 file systems, or
others in there as well. Right now I have ext2 for /boot , ext3 for /
and several others, /ext4 for /srv , and xfs for /home and some others.
No problems whatsoever with this. And I didn't have issues before when
using reiserfs on some file systems.

In the end i did not want to touch my files on my home folder
so i used ext3 for root. This solved my problems.

Strange that mixing ext3 and ext4 should cause you issues. Did you file
a bug report?


Regards,
David Bolt


no i did not file a bug report.
And as for the above i was speaking solely from experience

one thing i noticed with using linux it's different on every machine
and i have had some one come back to me confirming this.

concerning the kde3 kde4 incompatibility issue that happened on my
hp lap top brought in 2003

Concerning the ext3 ext4 issue that happened on my desktop
using a asus m2n-sli deluxe motherboard amd x2 64 6400+.


when i let the installer do it's thing. After the install was completed
the OS would not recognise my home partition regardless of what i did.

I had to reinstall and use ext3 for root partition and every thing was
fine.
 
 
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