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JEDIDIAH...
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:25 pm
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On 2009-11-04, chrisv <chrisv at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:
Quote:


Mr. Majestic wrote:

You show me the corporate policy somewhere that mandates a Linux
initiative, without justification to senior management that controls the
budget.

You're blowing smoke here, pure smoke. Coversion from one platform to
another cost money. It's not for free, and it's not going to be slipped
in no back door, when its coming out of other people's budgets, as there
are other stake holders involved.

Idiot. Nothing that Jed has written is in opposition to any of that. You
like building straw men that you can knock down?

He makes it sounds like IT systems are bought and then used as if they
were set in stone for 30 years. While there are some systems out there like
that, they certainly aren't WinDOS based. So you are going to have to deal
with "conversion" costs either way. There will be mandatory upgrades required
to keep the product supported. There may need to be code changes to support
newer versions of the system. There will be training costs necessary to deal
with changes that inevitably come with new versions of monopolyware.

An application may reach a tipping point where Windows doesn't scale
anymore. Or an application may not scale using Windows at all to begin with.

TCO might make a "conversion" seem warranted.

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has to adapt once rather than needing to adapt any time a / | \
new version of the relevant shovelware is released.
 
Köhlmann is aka 'Petey Toro' OLAY !...
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:45 am
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JEDIDIAH wrote:

<snipped>
<yawn>

Big mouth JEDIDIAH, you are a dumb home user that knows nothing about
how corporations work. And you know nothing about how IT works either.
All you have is lip service. All you can toss out is your worthless
brand of lip service. And you suck at it.

And about the only ones that will suck-up to you and kiss your worthless
behind about your lip services is someone like chris(v)ictim,
ron(b)ambi, az-no-one, Pussy Balls Poaster, and HPT aka High Balls the
Lint Licker, which like you are the COLA clown crowd..
 
JEDIDIAH...
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:57 am
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On 2009-11-05, Köhlmann is aka 'Petey Toro' OLAY! <OLAY at (no spam) 49OLAYr.com> wrote:
Quote:


JEDIDIAH wrote:

snipped
yawn

Big mouth JEDIDIAH, you are a dumb home user that knows nothing about
how corporations work. And you know nothing about how IT works either.

blah blah blah...

[nonsense removed]


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vi is easy to REPLACE.
 
Jean-David Beyer...
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:33 am
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Köhlmann is aka 'Petey Toro' OLAY! wrote:
Quote:
JEDIDIAH wrote:

snipped
yawn

Big mouth JEDIDIAH, you are a dumb home user that knows nothing about
how corporations work. And you know nothing about how IT works either.
All you have is lip service. All you can toss out is your worthless
brand of lip service. And you suck at it.

And about the only ones that will suck-up to you and kiss your worthless
behind about your lip services is someone like chris(v)ictim,
ron(b)ambi, az-no-one, Pussy Balls Poaster, and HPT aka High Balls the
Lint Licker, which like you are the COLA clown crowd..

Ohhh! Potty-mouth.

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/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 09:30:01 up 35 days, 19:29, 4 users, load average: 4.50, 4.68, 4.70
 
William Poaster...
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:49 am
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Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, JEDIDIAH was heard to say:

Quote:
On 2009-11-05, Köhlmann is aka 'Petey Toro' OLAY! <OLAY at (no spam) 49OLAYr.com> wrote:


JEDIDIAH wrote:

snipped
yawn

Big mouth JEDIDIAH, you are a dumb home user that knows nothing about
how corporations work. And you know nothing about how IT works either.

blah blah blah...

[nonsense removed]

The stupid Duh-Inane Arnold troll still drooling, is it. It should go back
onto its lead & laudnum meds.

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tool which wipes Windows from your PC in
seconds!
 
Wanna-Be Sys Admin...
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:55 pm
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Ignoramus13931 wrote:

Quote:
As Windows jobs decline 8% from the beginning of the year, Linux
postings grew 6%.


http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid39_gci1373285,00.html

What this essentially says, is that corporations are not nearly
averse to Linux as various research studies seem to show.

If you ask me, the writing is on the wall.

I am much more optimistic about corporate Linux adoption, than
adoption by clueless individual users. Corporations, at least, are
receptive to the profit, cost and security motive.

i

I suppose it depends on the job and how many people work there and what
they need to do. A small company usually has the attitude of "use
whatever you want, as long as it works", and care less about security
and stability, etc., than they do that things just do what they are
supposed to. If you and maybe a few others suggest Linux, you'll
usually get it. If you have a lot of people using Windows, they
probably won't change any time soon. Then again, even in a building
with hundreds of workers, usually people are just using high level
applications and never do anything on the OS level or anything serious
anyway, so as long as you can offer whatever solution and people can
open their workstation and do the job (entering data, or whatever),
then you might be able to make the change, if they don't get too
paranoid.
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TJ...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:17 am
Guest
Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote:
Quote:
Ignoramus13931 wrote:

As Windows jobs decline 8% from the beginning of the year, Linux
postings grew 6%.


http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid39_gci1373285,00.html
What this essentially says, is that corporations are not nearly
averse to Linux as various research studies seem to show.

If you ask me, the writing is on the wall.

I am much more optimistic about corporate Linux adoption, than
adoption by clueless individual users. Corporations, at least, are
receptive to the profit, cost and security motive.

i

I suppose it depends on the job and how many people work there and what
they need to do. A small company usually has the attitude of "use
whatever you want, as long as it works", and care less about security
and stability, etc., than they do that things just do what they are
supposed to. If you and maybe a few others suggest Linux, you'll
usually get it. If you have a lot of people using Windows, they
probably won't change any time soon. Then again, even in a building
with hundreds of workers, usually people are just using high level
applications and never do anything on the OS level or anything serious
anyway, so as long as you can offer whatever solution and people can
open their workstation and do the job (entering data, or whatever),
then you might be able to make the change, if they don't get too
paranoid.


All this jobs talk makes me even happier to be self-employed. After all,
I'm the *last* person I'm going to fire. As the smallest company size
possible, I agree that I get to use whatever I want, without fear of
losing my job over it.

But there are consequences to choosing badly - the whole business could
go down, taking me with it. Thus, even though I'm a "clueless individual
user," I'm highly "receptive to the profit, cost, and security motive"
when making my choices.

In fact, in my particular case, I don't use one OS to the complete
exclusion of another. I have an old, no longer supported version of
Windows available for those few times when it does what I need done more
easily than Linux (like when it's simply easier to use the old software
that I know versus learning new stuff I would use infrequently), and I
have an up-to-date version of Linux that I use over 98% of the time.
When the time comes that those choices no longer work, I will make new ones.

But the really nice thing about it is, *I* get to make the choices,
because I'm a "clueless individual user." <gloat, gloat>

TJ
 
Wanna-Be Sys Admin...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:53 pm
Guest
TJ wrote:

Quote:
In fact, in my particular case, I don't use one OS to the complete
exclusion of another. I have an old, no longer supported version of
Windows available for those few times when it does what I need done
more easily than Linux (like when it's simply easier to use the old
software that I know versus learning new stuff I would use
infrequently), and I have an up-to-date version of Linux that I use
over 98% of the time. When the time comes that those choices no longer
work, I will make new ones.

But the really nice thing about it is, *I* get to make the choices,
because I'm a "clueless individual user." <gloat, gloat

I can't think of anything I can't use Linux for running just as easily,
but I tend to use more Linux apps overall, given the choice anyway, so
I really don't have any Windows based apps I'd need to run Windows for
to be able to do something. However, I do run VMware for anything a
job might want (I contract myself and rarely does anyone care what OS I
use as long as I can interface and get the job done).
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