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| CF... |
 Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:19 am |
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Chris Cox wrote:
Quote: On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 14:50 +0100, Piotr Szymański wrote:
Hi All,
I have two Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB (ST31000528AS) drives in a
Linux software RAID-1 configuration. Today I've got a notification from
smartd that one of the drives (sda) is failing:
:-)
Well, IMHO, it's because it's a Seagate. Ever since Seagate
purchased Maxtor, the quality has gone WAY downhill.
With that said, you might want to investigate flashing
the drive firmware. But IMHO, you'll be better off with
a WD drive or even a Hitachi drive today.
YMMV.
If the Hitachi drives have improved since the "IBM DeskStar" days! Had two
of them out in two IBM desktops. I have never bought one since. |
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| CF... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:22 am |
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root wrote:
Quote: Piotr Szymañski <szyman at (no spam) REMOVETHISmagres.net> wrote:
Hi All,
I have two Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB (ST31000528AS) drives in a
Linux software RAID-1 configuration. Today I've got a notification from
smartd that one of the drives (sda) is failing:
I had two of the 1Tb drives fail within a week of purchase.
Send them back to Seagate for replacement. When you call
Seagate they will warn you that they may reject your drive
if you don't pack it correctly. I simply packed the first
drive in the original box and returned it. They took it
and returned the drive in a big box with lots of foam around
the drive. I returned the second drive in the box they
sent. Since then I have had no problems with the replacement
drives. Something rotten about the first 1Tb drives.
PS if you opt for them to send you a drive before they
get your drive you will get hit with a $25 shipping charge.
The UPS shipping for one drive is about $9.
I just went through that game with them: repacking in the original box. I
had already gotten rid of the foam, and had to custom cut some floral
styrofoam to exactly fit the drive, they accepted that. Am keeping the foam
this time. |
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| Chris Cox... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:00 pm |
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On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 18:44 -0800, Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote:
Quote: Chris Cox wrote:
On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 14:50 +0100, Piotr Szymański wrote:
Hi All,
I have two Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB (ST31000528AS) drives in a
Linux software RAID-1 configuration. Today I've got a notification
from smartd that one of the drives (sda) is failing:
:-)
Well, IMHO, it's because it's a Seagate. Ever since Seagate
purchased Maxtor, the quality has gone WAY downhill.
With that said, you might want to investigate flashing
the drive firmware. But IMHO, you'll be better off with
a WD drive or even a Hitachi drive today.
YMMV.
Ironic, I found Maxtor to such and always used WD and Seagate, but after
I had a bunch of WD's fail (I mean, far too many to ever give me hope
they are worth trying ever again), I switched to Seagate. I had a few
It is VERY much a time to time, generational thing to evaluate.
But right now, I find the WD's and the Hitachi's to be pretty good.
Obviously, as it does, that opinion will change from generation
to generation.
WD had their really bad drive back in the 90's (1.6G I believe) that
cause a lot of grief. Much like the IBM Deskstar's did, but that
changed with Hitachi.
I have 16 x 160G PATA WD's back when they first came out in a
large DAS RAID unit... and, believe it or not, we've not lost a single
one.
YMMV of course.
My home SAN consists of 8 x 1TB WD Blacks... now.. that's WAY too
early on to make a definitive statement, but I do know that I have
had Seagates that are even newer start dying in me. Sure... you
can get them replaced... but what a pain!!
We have a 21TB SAN that uses 42 x 500G SATA Hitachi's in it. Over the
past 5 years, we've had two of those go bad. So... not a perfect
track record.
Our 42TB SAN uses 42 x 1TB 1st gen SATA Hitachi's and it's been
in use for almost 3 years... never have lost a drive.
One problem is that everyone wants to know what to buy TODAY... but
you really can't give much of a long term assessment about drives
that are still what one would buy today... a problem with technology
in general.
With that said, I find dead new Seagates all over the place.... so
I stand beside my Segate == Maxtor == junk statement for now. |
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| Wanna-Be Sys Admin... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:39 pm |
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Chris Cox wrote:
Quote: It is VERY much a time to time, generational thing to evaluate.
Well, that's pretty much it. All brands and models seem to have a bad
run at some point, and some cover several of a brand's models. It's
always a risk and the same model might not work as well for someone
else. I know that I had a massive number of WD's fail over the last 8
years or so, and it was just enough for me. But, I've had most any
brand and model fail sooner than it should have. All companies have
bad runs, so I try and remove that risk until they've been out and
tested for a while (so I don't get the newest, largest models),
especially since 6 months down the road they'll be 1/2 the price
anyway. FYI, my WD failures were probably from 2000 to 2005/6. I've
not tried any for at least 2 or 3 years now.
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Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything. |
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| Wanna-Be Sys Admin... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:48 pm |
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Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote:
Quote: FYI, my WD failures were probably from 2000 to 2005/6. I've
not tried any for at least 2 or 3 years now.
That should be, when the failures happened. I had good luck with WD's
until about 2000 or so, so the 90s were actually good to me and WD.
I've never had a good year or good luck with Maxtor, no matter what
year it was. I've had both good and bad luck with Seagate, but right
now mine are running great and have for years without a single problem.
BTW, I'm using 16 of the Seagate Barracuda ST3500641AS. Not the
fastest, biggest, but they are not very much, they are 500 gig and I've
not had a single failure (they have really good ratings -- again, I
waited a few months before getting them, but I do that with most all
hardware (boards, memory, cpu, drives, etc.)).
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Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything. |
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