DenverD wrote:
But I'd update if I was still running 10.3.

i tried 11.0, 11.1 and stuck with 10.3...i'm still trying to decide
what to move to:

-11.1
-11.2
-SLED
-CentOS
-Debian
-BSD
-?

sigh, i do not like the new 18 month forced jump..

I don't run suse, rather Mint/Ubuntu, and I don't like to jump every six
months or 18 either. Wish they would stay stable for a longer period of
time.

sigh, i do not like the new 18 month forced jump..

One does not have to upgrade every time a new release comes out.
That is particularly true of Ubuntu.

anyways, I just nuked the install and have installed the Gnome release
today

SLED has the advantage of 5+2 year support. Disadvantage is that you must
pay for it, the price is not that high and as a professional you most
likely can deduct it.

Do they now ship all of the packages that they do in the shrink wrap
openSUSE?

The last time I looked at SLED it was missing a lot.

Today I went outside. My pupils have never been tinier...

SLED has the advantage of 5+2 year support. Disadvantage is that you must
pay for it, the price is not that high and as a professional you most
likely can deduct it.

Gnome release? When did they start having separate distributions for Gnome
and KDE?

Today I went outside. My pupils have never been tinier...

Shmuel Metz wrote:
SLED has the advantage of 5+2 year support. Disadvantage is that you
must pay for it, the price is not that high and as a professional you
most likely can deduct it.

Do they now ship all of the packages that they do in the shrink wrap
openSUSE?

No.

The last time I looked at SLED it was missing a lot.

It is not missing anything. They just did not put it in there.

houghi

The last time I looked at SLED it was missing a lot.

It is not missing anything. They just did not put it in there.


It's a feature???

Today I went outside. My pupils have never been tinier...

Paul J Gans wrote:

sigh, i do not like the new 18 month forced jump..

One does not have to upgrade every time a new release comes out.
That is particularly true of Ubuntu.


Paul, if one upgrades every time openSUSE releases that would be a
jump every *8* months....the only way you can get to 18 months is
install *on* the day it is released and skip the next two releases,
then install the third on its day of release!

see: http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Linux_Lifetime

meaning, if you are just a little bit smart and let those first few
months (after release) of Patch Blizzard subside, you can easily wind
up with closer to a one year between forced upgrades..

[well, you are not actually *forced* to upgrade, you can always run
with unsupported software (as i am today) or you can jump ship..]

DenverD <spam.trap at (no spam) somewhere.dk> wrote:
Paul J Gans wrote:

sigh, i do not like the new 18 month forced jump..

One does not have to upgrade every time a new release comes out.
That is particularly true of Ubuntu.


Paul, if one upgrades every time openSUSE releases that would be a
jump every *8* months....the only way you can get to 18 months is
install *on* the day it is released and skip the next two releases,
then install the third on its day of release!

see: http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Linux_Lifetime

meaning, if you are just a little bit smart and let those first few
months (after release) of Patch Blizzard subside, you can easily wind
up with closer to a one year between forced upgrades..

[well, you are not actually *forced* to upgrade, you can always run
with unsupported software (as i am today) or you can jump ship..]

Don't take the date so literally. What I'm saying is that
one can skip a release.

My personal method is to install new releases after about four
or five months. That gives enough time to work most of the
ugly bugs out.

i am still using 10.3 and there is nothing wrong with it.I updated it
regularly with smart package manager. Not using Yast. Smart done a better
job. Dame shame it ain't used any more. I hope i am wrong on that one. but
i have found xx.3 release to better than the other releases.

job. Dame shame it ain't used any more. I hope i am wrong on that one. but
i have found xx.3 release to better than the other releases.

rafter22 wrote:
houghi wrote:
Karl-Göran wrote:
Thanks for Your answers, I guess it's time to update.

Wait two weeks: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_11.2

houghi

The end of life for 11.1 is 12/31/2010, and since I recently fixed my
setup from KDE to Gnome, and I'm happy with the way it works, I think
I'll stay with it even though I'm testing the Fedora and openSUSE live
cd's.

Sure you should.

But I'd update if I was still running 10.3.

That was what Karl-Göran was running.

houghi

Paul J Gans wrote:
DenverD <spam.trap at (no spam) somewhere.dk> wrote:
Paul J Gans wrote:

sigh, i do not like the new 18 month forced jump..

One does not have to upgrade every time a new release comes out.
That is particularly true of Ubuntu.


Paul, if one upgrades every time openSUSE releases that would be a
jump every *8* months....the only way you can get to 18 months is
install *on* the day it is released and skip the next two releases,
then install the third on its day of release!

see: http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Linux_Lifetime

meaning, if you are just a little bit smart and let those first few
months (after release) of Patch Blizzard subside, you can easily wind
up with closer to a one year between forced upgrades..

[well, you are not actually *forced* to upgrade, you can always run
with unsupported software (as i am today) or you can jump ship..]

Don't take the date so literally. What I'm saying is that
one can skip a release.

My personal method is to install new releases after about four
or five months. That gives enough time to work most of the
ugly bugs out.


working out ugly bugs and skipping a release is a great idea!

if i you use your "four or five months" figure with openSUSE 11.2 i'd
install in March or April 2010....skip 11.3's planned release date of
July 2010 and then be FORCED to upgrade in May 2011 when 11.2 goes
unsupported JUST two months after 12.0 release in March 2011..

that way i would get about 12 months use of 11.2, AND have to abandon
your plan (and mine) to wait several months after release and pickup
12.0 only two months after release..

is that what you meant??

or were you planning on skipping releases and running without patches??

cite: "openSUSE versions up to and including 11.1 have a lifetime of 2
years. openSUSE versions starting with 11.2 will have a lifetime of 2
releases + 2 months overlap. With a release cycle of 8 months this
will make it 18 months." http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Linux_Lifetime

which, sucks!