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Bob Hauck...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:18 pm
Guest
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:32:38 -0500, Robert Heller <heller at (no spam) deepsoft.com>
wrote:

Quote:
The other weirdness with a 64-bit install: setting things up to build
32-bit binaries. You need to install the 32-bit devel packages and I
am not sure if that would conflict with the 64-bit devel packages.

At least on RHEL 5 and simple command-line apps you can just give the
"-m32" switch to gcc and it does the right thing. I haven't tried it
with anything complicated.


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Wanna-Be Sys Admin...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:43 pm
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General Schvantzkoph wrote:

Quote:
Adobe Flash has been available for 64
bits for a long time, it's still a beta but it works just fine. Java
plugins don't seem to work on 64 bit Fedora, but Java works.

Flash might work for 64 bit, but it often crashes people's browsers
(mine and everyone I know that runs 64 bit). I've looked high and low
for solutions, but ended up just using linux32 to get it to work. It
could be a browser issue (Firefox & Seamonkey), or how it works with
flash, rather than flash itself, but getting the Java plugin to work on
64 bit with Firefox or Seamonkey has proved to be a serious hassle,
regardless of linux32 or not. Any solution for the browser plugin/jvm
stuff?
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Aragorn...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:03 pm
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On Tuesday 27 October 2009 22:43 in comp.os.linux.misc, somebody
identifying as Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote...

Quote:
General Schvantzkoph wrote:

Adobe Flash has been available for 64
bits for a long time, it's still a beta but it works just fine. Java
plugins don't seem to work on 64 bit Fedora, but Java works.

Flash might work for 64 bit, but it often crashes people's browsers
(mine and everyone I know that runs 64 bit). I've looked high and low
for solutions, but ended up just using linux32 to get it to work. It
could be a browser issue (Firefox & Seamonkey), or how it works with
flash, rather than flash itself, but getting the Java plugin to work
on 64 bit with Firefox or Seamonkey has proved to be a serious hassle,
regardless of linux32 or not. Any solution for the browser plugin/jvm
stuff?

/nspluginwrapper/ maybe?

--
*Aragorn*
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
 
John Hasler...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:07 pm
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Wanna-Be Sys Admin writes:
Quote:
Flash might work for 64 bit, but it often crashes people's browsers
(mine and everyone I know that runs 64 bit).

It's solid here on Debian/Sid AMD64 using the package from
<http://www.debian-multimedia.org>.
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John Hasler
jhasler at (no spam) newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA
 
John Thompson...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:35 pm
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On 2009-10-27, The Natural Philosopher <tnp at (no spam) invalid.invalid> wrote:

Quote:
You still cant get firefox 3.5 precompiled for 64 bit.

Or if you can, tell me where. I compiled mine from source..

Although Mozilla doesn't distribute 64-bit binaries of FF-3.5.x, most
linux distributions do provide their own 64-bit builds. And if they
doesn't stay as cutting edge as you might prefer, you can use your
distibution's package-building mechanism to build your own 64-bit
binary packages. I've done this using rpmbuild to make my own
Thunderbird, Firefox, and Sunbird packages when I felt it necessary.

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John Hasler...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:04 pm
Guest
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Quote:
You still cant get firefox 3.5 precompiled for 64 bit.

That's what I'm running right now.

Quote:
Or if you can, tell me where.

Debian.
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John Hasler
jhasler at (no spam) newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA
 
William Poaster...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:06 am
Guest
On 27/10/2009 22:07, above the shrieking & FUDding of the trolls, John
Hasler was heard to say:

Quote:
Wanna-Be Sys Admin writes:
Flash might work for 64 bit, but it often crashes people's browsers
(mine and everyone I know that runs 64 bit).

It's solid here on Debian/Sid AMD64 using the package from
http://www.debian-multimedia.org>.

It's running fine on my Kubuntu 9.04 & 9.10 AMD64 installations too. :-)

--
M$ Windows - Same old shit, different day.
 
Wanna-Be Sys Admin...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:00 pm
Guest
Aragorn wrote:

Quote:
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 22:43 in comp.os.linux.misc, somebody
identifying as Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote...

General Schvantzkoph wrote:

Adobe Flash has been available for 64
bits for a long time, it's still a beta but it works just fine. Java
plugins don't seem to work on 64 bit Fedora, but Java works.

Flash might work for 64 bit, but it often crashes people's browsers
(mine and everyone I know that runs 64 bit). I've looked high and
low
for solutions, but ended up just using linux32 to get it to work. It
could be a browser issue (Firefox & Seamonkey), or how it works with
flash, rather than flash itself, but getting the Java plugin to work
on 64 bit with Firefox or Seamonkey has proved to be a serious
hassle,
regardless of linux32 or not. Any solution for the browser
plugin/jvm stuff?

/nspluginwrapper/ maybe?


Of course that was tried (and used), and flash does work on my system,
but every now and again without warning it will crash my browser and
all tabs open, though again that might not be just flash, but it's
related as it only happens on web pages that have flash. I've tried
different versions as well, and the same issue exists. Luckily I don't
care for sites that use it, but it sucks when I need to access a flash
site for work reasons.
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Wanna-Be Sys Admin...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:00 pm
Guest
Aragorn wrote:

Quote:
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 22:43 in comp.os.linux.misc, somebody
identifying as Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote...

General Schvantzkoph wrote:

Adobe Flash has been available for 64
bits for a long time, it's still a beta but it works just fine. Java
plugins don't seem to work on 64 bit Fedora, but Java works.

Flash might work for 64 bit, but it often crashes people's browsers
(mine and everyone I know that runs 64 bit). I've looked high and
low
for solutions, but ended up just using linux32 to get it to work. It
could be a browser issue (Firefox & Seamonkey), or how it works with
flash, rather than flash itself, but getting the Java plugin to work
on 64 bit with Firefox or Seamonkey has proved to be a serious
hassle,
regardless of linux32 or not. Any solution for the browser
plugin/jvm stuff?

/nspluginwrapper/ maybe?


If you meant JVM/Java, yes, I tried it for that as well, and it doesn't
work.
--
Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything.
 
Wanna-Be Sys Admin...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:02 pm
Guest
John Hasler wrote:

Quote:
Wanna-Be Sys Admin writes:
Flash might work for 64 bit, but it often crashes people's browsers
(mine and everyone I know that runs 64 bit).

It's solid here on Debian/Sid AMD64 using the package from
http://www.debian-multimedia.org>.

I don't use Debian, but I have noticed that a lot of stuff is packaged
for Debian that is a hassle to find for things like CentOS/RHEL, etc.
Not that I need an RPM/package, but I can't find a bin or source for
these things to work either (not for the browser anyway).
--
Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything.
 
General Schvantzkoph...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:55 pm
Guest
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:02:19 -0700, Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote:

Quote:
John Hasler wrote:

Wanna-Be Sys Admin writes:
Flash might work for 64 bit, but it often crashes people's browsers
(mine and everyone I know that runs 64 bit).

It's solid here on Debian/Sid AMD64 using the package from
http://www.debian-multimedia.org>.

I don't use Debian, but I have noticed that a lot of stuff is packaged
for Debian that is a hassle to find for things like CentOS/RHEL, etc.
Not that I need an RPM/package, but I can't find a bin or source for
these things to work either (not for the browser anyway).

Do you have the EPEL and karan repositories installed on your CentOS
system? Redhat strips RHEL to the barebones, it's even missing Xemacs.
The karan and EPEL repositories get you access to a number of Fedora
packages which have been rebuilt for RHEL.

http://centos.karan.org/
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ
 
John Thompson...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:49 pm
Guest
On 2009-10-28, Wanna-Be Sys Admin <sysadmin at (no spam) example.com> wrote:

Quote:
If you meant JVM/Java, yes, I tried it for that as well, and it doesn't
work.

Although I haven't managed to get Sun's java plugin to work for me, I've
found the 64-bit IcedTea java plugin works reasonable well in 64-bit linux.

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-John (john at (no spam) os2.dhs.org)
 
Wanna-Be Sys Admin...
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:46 pm
Guest
General Schvantzkoph wrote:

Quote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:02:19 -0700, Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote:

John Hasler wrote:

Wanna-Be Sys Admin writes:
Flash might work for 64 bit, but it often crashes people's browsers
(mine and everyone I know that runs 64 bit).

It's solid here on Debian/Sid AMD64 using the package from
http://www.debian-multimedia.org>.

I don't use Debian, but I have noticed that a lot of stuff is
packaged for Debian that is a hassle to find for things like
CentOS/RHEL, etc. Not that I need an RPM/package, but I can't find a
bin or source for these things to work either (not for the browser
anyway).

Do you have the EPEL and karan repositories installed on your CentOS
system? Redhat strips RHEL to the barebones, it's even missing Xemacs.
The karan and EPEL repositories get you access to a number of Fedora
packages which have been rebuilt for RHEL.

http://centos.karan.org/
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ

I'll check it out, thanks. Most of the stuff I do is server related,
which is why I like CentOS for a lot of things (with the min installs I
do), so I've not ventured all the way into things I would like for my
desktop/workstation. I appreciate the info, it might solve some
problems.
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