I'm not an upgrade-for-upgrade's-sake kind of guy - more like, if-it
ain't-broke,-don't-fix-it.

So, what would Slack 13 give me that Slack 11. doesn't have, besides the
headaches of IPV6 and that whole new kernel?

I'm not an upgrade-for-upgrade's-sake kind of guy - more like, if-it
ain't-broke,-don't-fix-it.

So, what would Slack 13 give me that Slack 11. doesn't have, besides the
headaches of IPV6 and that whole new kernel?

If you upgrade now, then the changes with the next release won't be so

How difficult is it to replace KDE 4.2 with 3.x?

How difficult is it to replace KDE 4.2 with 3.x?

IMO, a better solution is to lose the kde gde and use fluxbox with kde
loaded. You get the kde apps without the gde slowness.

On Oct 7, 4:30 pm, Chick Tower <c.to... at (no spam) deadspam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:14:05 +0000, notbob wrote:
IMO, a better solution is to lose the kde gde and use fluxbox with
kde loaded.  You get the kde apps without the gde slowness.

Oh, don't you start this GDE crap, too! --                  
               Chick Tower

I class KDE 4 with Vista. Lots of people don't like Vista and lots of
people don't like KDE 4. My solution is xfce, a near clone of the old
KDE 3.5 interface. The discussion isn't crap. the KDE 4 interface is.

On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:05:58 -0700, Rich Grise <richgrise at (no spam) example.net> wrote:

I'm not an upgrade-for-upgrade's-sake kind of guy - more like, if-it
ain't-broke,-don't-fix-it.

So, what would Slack 13 give me that Slack 11. doesn't have, besides the
headaches of IPV6 and that whole new kernel?

Slackware64!!

Ipv6 is easily ignored

Then there's new and improved apps, nb is happy Though it's a

shame PV didn't ship KDE-4.3x instead of 4.2 -- 4.3 is supposed to
be almost usable.

Grant wrote on 10/06/09 15:09:

On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:05:58 -0700, Rich Grise <richgrise at (no spam) example.net
wrote:

I'm not an upgrade-for-upgrade's-sake kind of guy - more like, if-it
ain't-broke,-don't-fix-it.

So, what would Slack 13 give me that Slack 11. doesn't have, besides the
headaches of IPV6 and that whole new kernel?

Slackware64!!

Ipv6 is easily ignored


IPv6 is good stuff. The only headaches I had with it had to do with my old
crappy DSL modem which didn't support it, not even IPv4to6. Nothing a new
DSL
modem couldn't fix.

Then there's new and improved apps, nb is happy Though it's a

shame PV didn't ship KDE-4.3x instead of 4.2 -- 4.3 is supposed to
be almost usable.


I'll stick with KDE 3.5 for now. 4.2 isn't usable.
The only bad thing with 3.5 is that Yahoo IM support in kopete is broken.
The
fix is only in 4.[23].

-Joe

"Joe" <invalid at (no spam) mailinator.com> wrote in message
I'll stick with KDE 3.5 for now. 4.2 isn't usable.
The only bad thing with 3.5 is that Yahoo IM support in kopete is broken.
The
fix is only in 4.[23].

-Joe


Know of any good alternatives that run in KDE 3.5? I tried a few, but they
were either old and klunky, would not compile, or didn't work with Yahoo.

At least Vista gives you the option of using the "classic" interface.
Windows 7 doesn't. And neither does KDE 4 (at least not that I'm aware of),
which is why I'm using neither Win7 nor KDE4...

It is also possible in KDE 4 to have the KDE 3 look and feel. Don't

I hope I'm not beating a dead dog.The "old" style interface expands programs
upwards and outwards in a hierarchal expanding format, using as much of the
screen as it can to display as much stuff as it can. This makes it easy to
drill upwards and outwards and find your stuff quickly, especially if you
have a lot of items, or if you are not quite sure where to find what you are
looking for. The "new" style confines it all to a small box, making it
difficult to navigate through the menus to find your stuff, especially if
you have a lot of items or are not sure where you are going. Microsoft made
a big mistake changing to this style, evidenced by all of the negative
feedback they are receiving about this change (typical Microsoft "lets us
think for you and tell you what you really want" attitude). It looks
suspiciously like the KDE4 team made the new gui work just like Windows. Did
they do this because it is what Windows is doing, or did they make it up on
their own? I strongly suspect the former. IMNSHO, this is a very wrong way
street for anything-Linux to be going down. The last thing I need is
something that works like Windows...



/soapbox

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:05:16 -0700, "Zootal"
usenet at (no spam) spam.zootal.nospam.com> wrote:

--snip --
At least Vista gives you the option of using the "classic" interface.
Windows 7 doesn't. And neither does KDE 4 (at least not that I'm aware
of),
which is why I'm using neither Win7 nor KDE4...

It is also possible in KDE 4 to have the KDE 3 look and feel. Don't
remember what I did to get it, but it wasn't hard to do.

You can get it for the desktop, IIRC, but not for the KDE equivalent
of the Start button where the menu pops up showing you available
programs. That seems to be stuck in Windows 7 mode.

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:30:45 -0700, j... at (no spam) wexfordpress.com wrote:
On Oct 6, 5:38 pm, notbob <not... at (no spam) nothome.com> wrote:
On 2009-10-06, Rich Grise <richgr... at (no spam) example.net> wrote:

So, what would Slack 13 give me that Slack 11. doesn't have, besides
the headaches of IPV6 and that whole new kernel?

mplayer!

It's all there.  Add the browser plug-in and you can watch almost
anything.  I was shocked to see wmv files play as easily as mpg and avi
files with nary a finger lifted to cli a config file.  I can even
stream current movies where available.  No muss, no fuss, it works, I
watch.  IMO, it is major.  On the downside, there's kde4.2, which is
worse than herniated pond scum.

nb

The solution to KDE4 is called XFCE. It approximates KDE 3.5 in look,
feel and functionality.

I disagree, completely.  Xfce has always looked/acted more like Gnome
than it has imitated KDE.  It looks nothing like KDE (thank god).

Well there is a menu button on the bottom bar, with submenus for major

The KDE programs are all available.

They are available no matter which desktop/wm you are using, assuming
they are installed.

Available via menus. Some wm don't have a menuing system built in.
Some adjustments are necessary. You need to substitute konsole for the
inferior Terminal program for example.

You don't "need" to do that.  I think Konsole sucks ass, and much prefer
the Xfce Terminal.

Kmail has a wierd look and feel. But it doesn't crash as often.

Another piece of crap.  Use Thunderbird.  No crashes.

Does it incorporate Bogofilters? Allow easy creation of filters to

The solution to KDE4 is called XFCE. It approximates KDE 3.5 in look,
feel and functionality.

I disagree, completely.  Xfce has always looked/acted more like Gnome
than it has imitated KDE.  It looks nothing like KDE (thank god).

Well there is a menu button on the bottom bar, with submenus for major
categories, just like KDE. It is easy to install/move around frequently
used apps on the bottom bar, just like KDE. The Xubuntu verson of XFCE
looks a bit more like Gnome but the Slackware version has no resemblance
IMO.