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| Johannes Beekhuizen... |
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:52 pm |
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Hello,
Under SlackWare12.2 (and earlier) I had my screen configured to be
1268x1024 pixels and was shown a part of it. This smaller screen
could be enlarged (or reduced) by pressing <ctr><alt>+(-).
I used the enlarging quite often, because I could not see the
screen very well when it was too small.
Can the same be done in the new version and, if yes, how?
Thanks for any help,
Regards,
Hans.
jdh dot beekhuizen at duinheks dot nl |
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| Aaron W. Hsu... |
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:42 pm |
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On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:52:07 -0400, Johannes Beekhuizen
<jbeekhui at (no spam) duinheks.nl> wrote:
Quote: Under SlackWare12.2 (and earlier) I had my screen configured to be
1268x1024 pixels and was shown a part of it. This smaller screen
could be enlarged (or reduced) by pressing <ctr><alt>+(-).
I used the enlarging quite often, because I could not see the
screen very well when it was too small.
Can the same be done in the new version and, if yes, how?
What I think you were doing was changing the screen resolution, which is
not something you'll normally want to do. Instead, you should use
something like KMag to magnify the screen sections that you want to read.
Aaron W. Hsu
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| Grant... |
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:26 pm |
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On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:42:03 -0400, "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide at (no spam) sacrideo.us> wrote:
Quote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:52:07 -0400, Johannes Beekhuizen
jbeekhui at (no spam) duinheks.nl> wrote:
Under SlackWare12.2 (and earlier) I had my screen configured to be
1268x1024 pixels and was shown a part of it. This smaller screen
could be enlarged (or reduced) by pressing <ctr><alt>+(-).
I used the enlarging quite often, because I could not see the
screen very well when it was too small.
Can the same be done in the new version and, if yes, how?
What I think you were doing was changing the screen resolution, which is
not something you'll normally want to do. Instead, you should use
something like KMag to magnify the screen sections that you want to read.
OP needs to add some extra resolution settings to xorg.conf.
Grant.
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| Thomas Ronayne... |
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:16 pm |
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Johannes Beekhuizen wrote:
Quote: Under SlackWare12.2 (and earlier) I had my screen configured to be
1268x1024 pixels and was shown a part of it. This smaller screen
could be enlarged (or reduced) by pressing <ctr><alt>+(-).
I used the enlarging quite often, because I could not see the
screen very well when it was too small.
Can the same be done in the new version and, if yes, how?
Thanks for any help,
Have you tried using /xorgsetup/? It scans your hardware and builds you
an //etc/xorg.conf/ that will probably provide the best resolution your
hardware is capable of -- and it makes a back up file of your existing
//etc/xorg.conf/ file. Once done, you can use one of the magnification
utilities (say, /kmag/) if necessary.
In Slackware 13.0, you really don't need an /xorg.conf/ as the system
dynamically determines the settings for your monitor (and keyboard and
mouse) with /udev/; you can have an /xorg.conf/ if you want, but you
start out without one.
Hope this helps some. |
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| Grant... |
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:47 pm |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:32:36 -0500, Ron Gibson <rsgibson at (no spam) tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
Quote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:26:09 +1100, Grant
g_r_a_n_t_ at (no spam) bugsplatter.id.au> wrote:
What I think you were doing was changing the screen resolution, which is
not something you'll normally want to do. Instead, you should use
something like KMag to magnify the screen sections that you want to read.
OP needs to add some extra resolution settings to xorg.conf.
That was another one I stumbled on. For some reason I couldn't get a
desktop with the stock nvidia driver.
I had to add screen subsections from an old xorg.conf file and
download the Nvidia driver and launch the binary installer.
After that all was well, sorta anyway.
What's sorta wrong then?
I think you can just drop in xorg.conf from last slack-12.x install?
Box I'm playing with at the moment is Intel 865G video, and slack-13
gets that right with a custom kernel. Losing the mouse clicks after a
short time with distro kernel :(
Grant.
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| Ron Gibson... |
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:32 pm |
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On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:26:09 +1100, Grant
<g_r_a_n_t_ at (no spam) bugsplatter.id.au> wrote:
Quote: What I think you were doing was changing the screen resolution, which is
not something you'll normally want to do. Instead, you should use
something like KMag to magnify the screen sections that you want to read.
OP needs to add some extra resolution settings to xorg.conf.
That was another one I stumbled on. For some reason I couldn't get a
desktop with the stock nvidia driver.
I had to add screen subsections from an old xorg.conf file and
download the Nvidia driver and launch the binary installer.
After that all was well, sorta anyway.
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| Ron Gibson... |
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:38 pm |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:16:21 -0400, Thomas Ronayne
<trona at (no spam) ameritech.net> wrote:
Quote: Have you tried using /xorgsetup/? It scans your hardware and builds you
an //etc/xorg.conf/ that will probably provide the best resolution your
hardware is capable of -- and it makes a back up file of your existing
//etc/xorg.conf/ file. Once done, you can use one of the magnification
utilities (say, /kmag/) if necessary.
In Slackware 13.0, you really don't need an /xorg.conf/ as the system
dynamically determines the settings for your monitor (and keyboard and
mouse) with /udev/; you can have an /xorg.conf/ if you want, but you
start out without one.
Hope this helps some.
Didn't work for me at all. In fact I was searching for another binary
under the X tree thinking this can't be right.
Also, I'm blind as a bat and although my monitor will do
1920x1200 at (no spam) 60Hz I always go for 1024x768 at (no spam) 75Hz (will do 85Hz).
I've got to fix that too as best refresh I can get was 57Hz :=(
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| Grant... |
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:58 pm |
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On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:43:41 -0500, Ron Gibson <rsgibson at (no spam) tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
Quote: On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:35:18 +1100, Grant
g_r_a_n_t_ at (no spam) bugsplatter.id.au> wrote:
So why not use konsole terminal? Just check the P4 box (it's running
fluxbox at the moment) Ctrl-Alt-F2 happily switched to TTY. I'm also
running the VESA framebuffer set to 800x600. Maybe some hints in my
.config? See: http://bugsplatter.id.au/kernel/boxen/black/ I'm using
linux-2.6.31.3 there today (on slack-13).
I mentioned in another post the odd thing is this only happens when I
start KDE. If I use XFCE no problems.
Works fine here with the custom kernel with KDE too.
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Once I exit KDE the only way I can get my TTY text back is to reboot
???
The distro kernel doesn't get it right for some hardware. I duplicated
another poster's issues here with slack-13's distro kernel. I've not
explored whether playing with the /etc/rc.d/rc.modules can fix things
here.
Grant.
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| Robby Workman... |
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:11 pm |
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On 2009-10-08, Bud <bud at (no spam) bud.invalid> wrote:
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Still wish they had the Wacom drivers already installed
in the kernal usb section.
We've made a note to look into that for Slackware -next;
someone (perhaps you?) mentioned this on LQ a few days
ago. Thanks for the reminder...
-RW |
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| Ron Gibson... |
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:43 pm |
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:35:18 +1100, Grant
<g_r_a_n_t_ at (no spam) bugsplatter.id.au> wrote:
Quote: So why not use konsole terminal? Just check the P4 box (it's running
fluxbox at the moment) Ctrl-Alt-F2 happily switched to TTY. I'm also
running the VESA framebuffer set to 800x600. Maybe some hints in my
.config? See: http://bugsplatter.id.au/kernel/boxen/black/ I'm using
linux-2.6.31.3 there today (on slack-13).
I mentioned in another post the odd thing is this only happens when I
start KDE. If I use XFCE no problems.
Once I exit KDE the only way I can get my TTY text back is to reboot
???
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| Ron Gibson... |
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:32 pm |
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:58:11 +1100, Grant
<g_r_a_n_t_ at (no spam) bugsplatter.id.au> wrote:
Quote: Once I exit KDE the only way I can get my TTY text back is to reboot
???
The distro kernel doesn't get it right for some hardware. I duplicated
another poster's issues here with slack-13's distro kernel. I've not
explored whether playing with the /etc/rc.d/rc.modules can fix things
here.
That's my bet too. My WAG is that it's loading the frame buffer module
and I actually have no use at all for that. I've always used the
standard vga text tty.
I'm reluctant to rebuild the kernel just yet because I want to see if
I can get my Twinhan 32500 HD capture card going. If I can get that
going and determine what modules are needed then I'll start trimming
the fat off of the kernel.
If I can't get that going quickly I can always build a test kernel.
Might be able to get the stock nvidia driver going too that way.
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| Aaron W. Hsu... |
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:49 pm |
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:36:19 -0400, Ron Gibson <rsgibson at (no spam) tampabay.rr.com>
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Quote: Have you tried the Generic Kernel? I assume also that Lilo is set to use
the standard console, and not the ones with fancy framebuffer
resolutions?
And what driver are you using for X?
This is something really odd. Just to see what would happen I tried
using my xorg.conf file from 12.2.
The first time I used it and did a CTL-ALT-F2 I got text! I logged out
of KDE dropped to tty1 and had text.
I logged back in and got the same problem every since.
I have a bad feeling this is going to take a lot of time to track down
and fix. I appreciate the suggestions but for now I'm going to place
that problem on the back burner until I get more time as I'm terribly
busy now and am planning on going on vacation to see my Mom.
This problem reminds me a lot of a problem I had on OpenBSD with one of my
older Macbook Pros. For some reason, framebuffers and such in the X and
TTYs would conflict with each other. I had to disable something in X to
get it to work. It is possible the KDE is enabling something that causes
this problem. That was such a long time ago, though, that I would be
surprised if this were the exact same error. I think that KDE does enable
compositing and some other features, and may do something with xrandr, so
you may want to see if you can duplicate this problem using different
settings in the xorg.conf file. You might also try to generate a new,
fresh default xorg.conf file using 'X -configure' and edit that to see
what happens. Maybe there is something in the KDE display settings that
causes it. You should check your Xorg logs as well.
Aaron W. Hsu
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| Ron Gibson... |
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:52 am |
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:49:32 -0400, "Aaron W. Hsu"
<arcfide at (no spam) sacrideo.us> wrote:
Quote: I have a bad feeling this is going to take a lot of time to track down
and fix.
This problem reminds me a lot of a problem I had on OpenBSD with one of my
older Macbook Pros. For some reason, framebuffers and such in the X and
TTYs would conflict with each other. I had to disable something in X to
get it to work. It is possible the KDE is enabling something that causes
this problem. That was such a long time ago, though, that I would be
surprised if this were the exact same error.
I think you are right as I finally tracked what triggers the problem.
I use the CLI a lot but usually do it in X as it gives me a little
more flexibility using the multiple desktops, etc.
Anyway opening a konsole in X is what causes the problem. Since I
almost always open one I just caught the cause last night.
IOW, as long as I don't use the Konsole in X (I assign hotkey sequence
CTL-F12 to open it, FYI) I have text in my tty's.
As soon as I open a konsole, tty text disappears. I'm also having
other problems like the color thing. I notice when I open a konsole I
get a very brief but detectable screen flicker.
THIS is a very serious problem for me as one thing I liked about X is
how fast I could track, trace, reconfigure (ya know all those things
that they claim are sooo hard in that article on distrowatch).
THIS is in general a very bad blunder - I can't imagine KDE without a
usable konsole. That's a "primitive" feature.
If I need to do that I guess I have to use XFCE.
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| Aaron W. Hsu... |
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:26 pm |
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:03:33 -0400, Dan C <youmustbejoking at (no spam) lan.invalid>
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Quote: On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:03:49 -0400, Aaron W. Hsu wrote:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:49:15 -0400, Ron Gibson
rsgibson at (no spam) tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
What I've know at
this point is I have text until I get that odd "screen flicker" and
then I lose TTY text.
Try disabling the compositing, the compiz special niceties, and the
speciale effects that KDE does. That might remedy the problem. The
Screen Flicker I usually see happens on the Splash screen when KDE
switches from normal X to a sort of composited system that uses more of
the graphics card for OpenGL or some such.
For Ron or anyone else wondering how to disable compositing, I had this
stanza in my xorg.conf from Slack 12.2, which worked great:
Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Disable"
EndSection
I simply added that to the very end of the xorg.conf file. I don't seem
to need it with the new X in Slack 13.
Additionally, the Desktop Effects panel of the Desktop Settings in the
System Settings application in KDE should help. Disabling those features
might help. Or, changing the Compositing type from OpenGL to XRendr.
Aaron W. Hsu
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| Aaron W. Hsu... |
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:16 pm |
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:53:10 -0400, Ron Gibson <rsgibson at (no spam) tampabay.rr.com>
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Quote: Like I said I really have to rule out that it's only a KDE problem
because if it happens in XFCE then it must be an issue with X itself
or possibly the video driver.
KDE might be the only program that you use which switches over the
rendering style to another rendering or compositing library or method,
which might cause the flicker and subsequently trigger the behavior in X.
Don't rush to blame the user programs just yet, because this very much
sounds like an X conflict. What driver are you using?
Aaron W. Hsu
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