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| Paul Thompson... |
 Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:51 am |
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My HP Notebook (64 bit) came with 3GB or RAM and I replaced a 1GB chip
with 2GB to get 4GB. Now it takes much longer to boot. Is there a
solution to getting the boot time back to where it was?
Thanks
Paul |
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| Paul J Gans... |
| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:51 am |
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Paul Thompson <pault at (no spam) hiwaay.net> wrote:
Quote: My HP Notebook (64 bit) came with 3GB or RAM and I replaced a 1GB chip
with 2GB to get 4GB. Now it takes much longer to boot. Is there a
solution to getting the boot time back to where it was?
I've had that happen. It seems to be a feature of the design of
some motherboards.
What happens is that 4 GB is the maximum addressable memory. But
there is some memory mapping going on allowing access to the BIOS
and other things.
As a result some machines have memory conflict problems. The only
known cure (as far as I know) is to put the 1 GB chip back in.
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| darklight... |
| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:28 am |
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Paul Thompson wrote:
Quote: My HP Notebook (64 bit) came with 3GB or RAM and I replaced a 1GB chip
with 2GB to get 4GB. Now it takes much longer to boot. Is there a
solution to getting the boot time back to where it was?
Thanks
Paul
What kernel are you using i saw someware that if you got over 4gigs of ram
or over you should use the PEA kernel.
I have found 11 up runs faster than 10.3 i still use 10.3 on my desktop but
have played around with 11 up on my laptop and found from 11 onwards to run
faster on my laptop. |
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| Paul Thompson... |
| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:14 pm |
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darklight wrote:
Quote: Paul Thompson wrote:
My HP Notebook (64 bit) came with 3GB or RAM and I replaced a 1GB chip
with 2GB to get 4GB. Now it takes much longer to boot. Is there a
solution to getting the boot time back to where it was?
Thanks
Paul
What kernel are you using i saw someware that if you got over 4gigs of ram
or over you should use the PEA kernel.
I have found 11 up runs faster than 10.3 i still use 10.3 on my desktop but
have played around with 11 up on my laptop and found from 11 onwards to run
faster on my laptop.
2,6.22,19-0.4-default. I think it's a SUSE issue because it gets part
way through booting and then spins the disk for a couple minutes. Also
the dual boot into Vista is not showing the problem.
Thanks
Paul |
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| DenverD... |
| Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:08 am |
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Quote: 2,6.22,19-0.4-default. I think it's a SUSE issue because it gets part
way through booting and then spins the disk for a couple minutes. Also
the dual boot into Vista is not showing the problem.
its ok to ask for help and then ignore it..
just try another distro (there are several hundred now days
<http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity>, or move to
openSUSE 11.1, or give 11.2 beta a go
<http://software.opensuse.org/developer/>
or just stick with Vista if that works for you...everyone already
knows it is 'easier' on RAM than is Linux (many cases of memtest
turning up problems but M$ has none), and since the hardware is
*designed for Windows[tm]* it can run that and everything else can crawl!
polish your nose ring..
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| darklight... |
| Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:13 am |
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Paul Thompson wrote:
Quote: darklight wrote:
Paul Thompson wrote:
My HP Notebook (64 bit) came with 3GB or RAM and I replaced a 1GB chip
with 2GB to get 4GB. Now it takes much longer to boot. Is there a
solution to getting the boot time back to where it was?
Thanks
Paul
What kernel are you using i saw someware that if you got over 4gigs of
ram or over you should use the PEA kernel.
I have found 11 up runs faster than 10.3 i still use 10.3 on my desktop
but have played around with 11 up on my laptop and found from 11 onwards
to run faster on my laptop.
2,6.22,19-0.4-default. I think it's a SUSE issue because it gets part
way through booting and then spins the disk for a couple minutes. Also
the dual boot into Vista is not showing the problem.
Thanks
Paul
I am still running 2.6.22.19-0.3-default kernel no problems. have you
configured the kernel. |
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| EOS... |
| Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:59 am |
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DenverD wrote:
beta?!
openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 6 you mean.
This is a Milestone Release, one of several that lead up to the 11.2 final
release in November. It may not be suitable for production systems, but is
ready for contributors who want to help with testing and development for
11.2.
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| DenverD... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:45 am |
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EOS wrote:
i clearly wrote beta...you think i should have done more for a person
who seems to know more about his hardware than others here?
and, yes Milestone 6 which is the ONLY version available _today_ at
the link i gave....tomorrow it might be a more recent BETA version
Quote:
This is a Milestone Release, one of several that lead up to the 11.2 final
release in November. It may not be suitable for production systems, but is
ready for contributors who want to help with testing and development for
11.2.
he is confident the problem is not his hardware but openSUSE 10.3, so
why not try something else, LIKE: a different distro, today's openSUSE
*OR* the next openSUSE (beta) which _may_ have fixed the "software
problem" he is thinks exists, because it works ok in Vista! ;-)
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| houghi... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:17 am |
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DenverD wrote:
Quote: and, yes Milestone 6 which is the ONLY version available _today_ at
the link i gave....tomorrow it might be a more recent BETA version
They are not called Alpha and Beta anymore. They are called milestones.
houghi
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| DenverD... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:43 am |
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Quote: They are not called Alpha and Beta anymore. They are called milestones.
i suppose you are correct, *if* you agree that the openSUSE milestone
releases are pre-alpha/beta..
but, what is in a name? you are talking about _names_ i am talking
about the condition of the software...everything that comes out of
openSUSE is *beta* (or less) in the constant march toward Novell's
commercial release of SLES/SLED..
no matter what you name it..
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| houghi... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:07 am |
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DenverD wrote:
Quote: They are not called Alpha and Beta anymore. They are called milestones.
i suppose you are correct, *if* you agree that the openSUSE milestone
releases are pre-alpha/beta..
I am correct, no matter what I agree with.
Quote: but, what is in a name? you are talking about _names_ i am talking
about the condition of the software...everything that comes out of
openSUSE is *beta* (or less) in the constant march toward Novell's
commercial release of SLES/SLED..
The milestones are stops in the development. At intervals the
Factory stops for a day or say and that is put into an iso.
That openSUSE factory at a certain point is forked into 11.2. Factory
will continue (although at a much lower speed just before the realease
of the fork) onto the next milestone.
Although SLE does almost the same, it is not identical.
Quote: no matter what you name it..
If you mean by Alpha/Beta that that are not fit for production machines,
then yes, Factory is some sort of Alpha/Beta.
So Factory is a process where from time to time there are spinoffs. Some
are called milestone and others are called openSUSE XX.X
houghi
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| Paul Thompson... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:21 am |
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Quote: polish your nose ring..
Pretty hostile ...
I've pushed Linux for several years now and I'm helping the company I'm
consulting with to move it's product line to Linux. I gave Vista as a
data point, and I need a Windows partition, e.g. there are device
specific programs supplied by manufacturers that will only run under
Windows. Yes I might be able to hack them to run under Linux (e.g. Wine)
but I've been programming since the 1950's and I'm tired of hacking. I
want to stay with SUSE because the company is using SLED.
Could this be a preloading issue as the problem appears mid way through
the boot process? I've checked and Open Office is not being preloaded,
best I can determine. Are there any other possibilities.
Thanks
Paul
DenverD wrote:
Quote: 2,6.22,19-0.4-default. I think it's a SUSE issue because it gets
part way through booting and then spins the disk for a couple
minutes. Also the dual boot into Vista is not showing the problem.
its ok to ask for help and then ignore it..
just try another distro (there are several hundred now days
http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity>, or move to
openSUSE 11.1, or give 11.2 beta a go
http://software.opensuse.org/developer/
or just stick with Vista if that works for you...everyone already
knows it is 'easier' on RAM than is Linux (many cases of memtest
turning up problems but M$ has none), and since the hardware is
*designed for Windows[tm]* it can run that and everything else can
crawl!
polish your nose ring..
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| houghi... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:20 am |
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Paul Thompson wrote:
Quote: Could this be a preloading issue as the problem appears mid way through
the boot process? I've checked and Open Office is not being preloaded,
best I can determine. Are there any other possibilities.
Install bootchart. That way you will see what happens during booting.
houghi
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| Happy Oyster... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:27 pm |
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:21:32 -0500, Paul Thompson <pault at (no spam) hiwaay.net> wrote:
Quote: Could this be a preloading issue as the problem appears mid way through
the boot process? I've checked and Open Office is not being preloaded,
best I can determine. Are there any other possibilities.
Just some guesses:
1. The HDD was used for a longer time and there is a lot on it?
2. How about the size of the partitions and how many are there?
3. Are you sure that you did not change ANYTHING in the hardware except putting
in the new RAM?
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| DenverD... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:44 pm |
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Paul Thompson wrote:
Quote: polish your nose ring..
Pretty hostile ...
i spend far too much time in forums.opensuse.org and am probably (no,
make it: very) oversensitive to the micro$oftie whiners who fall into
the fora there and in their first post announce "i'm new to linux" and
their 'problem' whose description often points to user ignorance or
drivers that haven't yet caught up with the latest proprietary
hardware, and THEN tag on "...i know my machine is alright because it
works perfect with Vista."
so...sorry if i offended..
but, having had all that experience (good or bad) in those fora i've
seen lots of boot time discussions and problems...and, though i cannot
this second find it, there is at least one instance where the laptop
manufacturer (i _think_ it was HP) had acknowledged a motherboard bug
which caused (almost) exactly your symptoms..
on the other hand, while there are several threads in the last couple
of years on boot speed that were solved by fixing software issues, i
do not recall a single problem which came *after* adding/replacing RAM
that was was not hardware related..
searching of the fora archives is available to you without joining at
http://forums.opensuse.org/search.php but i find it easier to use the
site specifier in a Google string like
site:forums.opensuse.org [string words "phrase words"]
perhaps you can find your software problem/solution there...i haven't
been able to do so..
finally, i wonder if you are running the latest kernel and have given
that new RAM a through look see with memtest, overnight at least?
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