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| terryc... |
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I have an old intel (L440GX0 server mobo with onboard video that I would
like to kick into higher resolution than 800x600.
Is X able to deal with this situation yet? |
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| Stefan Patric... |
| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:34 pm |
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On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:04:02 +0000, terryc wrote:
Quote: I have an old intel (L440GX0 server mobo with onboard video that I would
like to kick into higher resolution than 800x600.
Is X able to deal with this situation yet?
Would depend more on the onboard video chip than X. What are the video
resolution specs for the board?
If you want to use an AGP graphics card instead of the onboard video, X
can handle that.
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| terryc... |
| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:41 pm |
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On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:34:58 +0000, Stefan Patric wrote:
Quote: On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:04:02 +0000, terryc wrote:
I have an old intel (L440GX0 server mobo with onboard video that I
would like to kick into higher resolution than 800x600.
Is X able to deal with this situation yet?
Would depend more on the onboard video chip than X. What are the video
resolution specs for the board?
Where does I find those?
The msg before is
[ 57.959142] Linux agpgart interface v0.103
[ 58.053652] agpgart: Detected an Intel 440GX Chipset.
[ 58.060196] agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M at (no spam) 0xf8000000
and lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440GX - 82443GX Host bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440GX - 82443GX AGP bridge
00:0c.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7896U2/7897U2
00:0c.1 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7896U2/7897U2
00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro
100 (rev 0
00:12.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
00:12.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:12.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:12.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
00:14.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5480 (rev 23)
01:0f.0 PCI bridge: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21150 (rev 06)
02:04.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. PCI0680 Ultra ATA-133
Host Controller (rev 02)
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If you want to use an AGP graphics card instead of the onboard video, X
can handle that.
No, this boxen only has pci slots and you have to be careful what you
insert where, hence my preference for using the onboard to the maximum. |
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| Mark Hobley... |
| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:08 am |
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terryc <newssevenspam-spam at (no spam) woa.com.au> wrote:
Quote: No, this boxen only has pci slots and you have to be careful what you
insert where, hence my preference for using the onboard to the maximum.
Right ... I jumped on the Intel website, and it appears that your motherboard
has a Cirrus Logic GD5480 video chipset. This is a basic SVGA chipset,
so you are not going to get a high number of colours, or a high resolution
using that. (This motherboard really was designed for a server.)
I found a technical specification for that board:
http://87.97.220.36/new/ftp/Drivers/VGA/CirrusLogic/gd5480pb.pdf
It will display up to 1280 x 1024 in high colour.
However, I am not sure whether the windows accelarator worked on Cirrus Logic
cards. I used to use Cirrus Logic and S3 graphics cards, and I remember that
there were some issues as the xfree86 server changed from version 3 to version
4. I think the S3 cards no longer worked, so I removed them. I can't remember
whether there was a technical problem with the Cirrus Logic cards, or I
just upgraded, because I wanted to play Enemy Territory.
I would stick an Ubuntu livecd in the machine, and see what happens. Try
selecting an appropriate Cirrus Logic driver, and 1024 x 768 resolution.
I am interested in knowing what happens, so I can update my records.
Mark.
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| terryc... |
| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:41 am |
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On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:08:02 +0000, Mark Hobley wrote:
Quote: terryc <newssevenspam-spam at (no spam) woa.com.au> wrote:
No, this boxen only has pci slots and you have to be careful what you
insert where, hence my preference for using the onboard to the maximum.
It will display up to 1280 x 1024 in high colour.
I would be happy with 1024x768. Currently locked at 800x600 and i can not
work out how to get xorg to go higher.
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| Mark Hobley... |
| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:08 am |
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terryc <newssevenspam-spam at (no spam) woa.com.au> wrote:
Quote: I would be happy with 1024x768. Currently locked at 800x600 and i can not
work out how to get xorg to go higher.
Please can you post here a copy of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf configuration file?
Also, it would be useful if you could post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
Cheers,
Mark.
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| Stefan Patric... |
| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:06 pm |
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On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:41:57 +0000, terryc wrote:
Quote: On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:34:58 +0000, Stefan Patric wrote:
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:04:02 +0000, terryc wrote:
I have an old intel (L440GX0 server mobo with onboard video that I
would like to kick into higher resolution than 800x600.
Is X able to deal with this situation yet?
Would depend more on the onboard video chip than X. What are the video
resolution specs for the board?
Where does I find those?
I'd start here:
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/L440GX/
A quick Yahoo search found the link.
Anyway, it looks like the graphics chip supports resolutions up to
1600x1200, but only in 256,000 colors. The highest resolution that has
full 24-bit, 16M colors is 800x600. (These numbers were found in the
Technical Product Specifications link.)
It looks like if you want to use it as a desktop or workstation with 24-
bit color at greater than 800x600, you're out of luck. The board is
really meant to be used in a server.
Quote: The msg before is
[ 57.959142] Linux agpgart interface v0.103 [ 58.053652] agpgart:
Detected an Intel 440GX Chipset. [ 58.060196] agpgart: AGP aperture is
64M at (no spam) 0xf8000000
and lspci
[snip]
02) 00:14.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5480 (rev 23)
This is your video controller. You can search for its specs on the net.
Quote: 01:0f.0 PCI bridge: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21150 (rev 06)
02:04.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. PCI0680 Ultra ATA-133
Host Controller (rev 02)
If you want to use an AGP graphics card instead of the onboard video, X
can handle that.
No, this boxen only has pci slots and you have to be careful what you
insert where, hence my preference for using the onboard to the maximum.
Using a pci graphic card would seem to be the only solution to get the
resolution(s) you want and 24-bit color.
Stef |
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| Mark Hobley... |
| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:08 pm |
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Stefan Patric <not at (no spam) thisaddress.com> wrote:
Quote: It looks like if you want to use it as a desktop or workstation with 24-
bit color at greater than 800x600, you're out of luck. The board is
really meant to be used in a server.
Try switching to 16 bit (65536 colours). (Your computer will probably run
faster when you do this), also you won't notice any problems with the colour,
unless you are looking at lots and lots of photographs causing a pallet
change, and maybe the pallet is dynamic, so only unused colours are
substituted, but I am guessing here. I don't know the internal mechanisms for
this at this time. Even on true colour display, there is usually less than
65536 colours on the screen at any one time, (except maybe when you display
one of those rainbow colour selection thingies). I have never noticed a pallet
change, even when viewing photos, (but my eyes do not see a normal spectrum).
Mark.
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| terryc... |
| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:04 pm |
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On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:06:57 +0000, Stefan Patric wrote:
Quote: http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/L440GX/
Been there.
Quote: Anyway, it looks like the graphics chip supports resolutions up to
1600x1200, but only in 256,000 colors. The highest resolution that has
full 24-bit, 16M colors is 800x600. (These numbers were found in the
Technical Product Specifications link.)
That is basically what I've finally worked. 800x600 at (no spam) 24bpp and
1024x768 at (no spam) 16bpp
I can set Videoram 4096 but the display echos/repeats.
Looks like
"agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M at (no spam) 0xf8000000 "
is just totally wrong.
Hmm, unless I need to specify the address as well.
Quote: you want to use it as a desktop or workstation with 24-
bit color at greater than 800x600, you're out of luck. The board is
really meant to be used in a server.
It is more an exercise of working out just exactly what you can do with
onboard video chips in various machines with shared ram. I have a number
of these systems that claim to have up to 64M shared ram and never
achieved more that 4M ram for the video under Linux.
Quote: No, this boxen only has pci slots and you have to be careful what you
insert where, hence my preference for using the onboard to the maximum.
Using a pci graphic card would seem to be the only solution to get the
resolution(s) you want and 24-bit color.
I suspect so. Also, going dual head is more than likely. |
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| Mark Hobley... |
| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:08 pm |
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terryc <newssevenspam-spam at (no spam) woa.com.au> wrote:
Quote: It is more an exercise of working out just exactly what you can do with
onboard video chips in various machines with shared ram. I have a number
of these systems that claim to have up to 64M shared ram and never
achieved more that 4M ram for the video under Linux.
I think the aperture size is more to do with rendering and frame caching, than
screen resolution.
Mark.
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| Stefan Patric... |
| Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:44 pm |
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 00:04:57 +0000, terryc wrote:
Quote: On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:06:57 +0000, Stefan Patric wrote:
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/L440GX/
Been there.
Anyway, it looks like the graphics chip supports resolutions up to
1600x1200, but only in 256,000 colors. The highest resolution that has
full 24-bit, 16M colors is 800x600. (These numbers were found in the
Technical Product Specifications link.)
That is basically what I've finally worked. 800x600 at (no spam) 24bpp and
1024x768 at (no spam) 16bpp
I can set Videoram 4096 but the display echos/repeats.
Looks like
"agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M at (no spam) 0xf8000000 "
is just totally wrong.
Hmm, unless I need to specify the address as well.
[snip]
The specs on the MB say max video ram is 2M. Could be it's hard coded
and not changeable or over-rideable.
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| Jakub Fišer... |
| Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:25 pm |
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See
# man intel
or
# man i810
if available. Then try to tweak xorg.conf accordingly. You'll probably be
interested in these options:
VideoRam
AperTexSize
What happens when you force your screen settings to 1024x768 like this:
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Resolution 1024x768
EndSubSection
EndSection
You may have to generate some modelines for your monitor as well..
-miky
On 17 Apr 2009 12:04:02 GMT, terryc <newssevenspam-spam at (no spam) woa.com.au>
wrote:
Quote: I have an old intel (L440GX0 server mobo with onboard video that I would
like to kick into higher resolution than 800x600.
Is X able to deal with this situation yet?
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Vyhýbejte se, prosím, přílohám typu Word nebo PowerPoint:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.cs.html
Please avoid sending me Word, PowerPoint, etc. attachments:
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| Mark Hobley... |
| Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:08 pm |
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Jakub Fi?er <mr at (no spam) mikymaus.org> wrote:
Quote: What happens when you force your screen settings to 1024x768 like this:
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Resolution 1024x768
EndSubSection
EndSection
If this does not work, try:
Depth 16
Mark.
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