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| RPM1 |
 Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:19 am |
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I guess Mouse is hell bent on staying here. She walked in
lame this morning. Vet already came and left after he cut
out an abscess. Well, as close as he could cut it out anyway.
It's very deep. He just nicked an edge where it started to
drain. He thinks that time and soaks will do the rest. So,
we're doing the diaper dance here...
I must confess it's been a long time since anyone has needed
any sort of doctoring around here. The vet said bute for a few
days. I checked and realized that our current un-opened
bottle expired 8 years ago. We have a new bottle now.
Any helpful hints on diapering a foot? I'll be going out to
soak the foot for a good long while and maybe we can both
catch a snooze in the warm sun while doing so. I've got
epsom salts for the warm soaks. Betadine and salts for
inside the diaper. Electrical and duct tape.
Anyone have luck turning a horse out with a diapered foot?
I hate to keep her in. We have all nice soft grass in turnout,
no rocks at all. She'll be much happier outside. Wish I had
a nice piece of inner tube handy.
Ruth CM |
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| Ben Turner |
| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:04 pm |
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:19:30 -0400, in rec.equestrian, "RPM1"
<rpm1deleteme@direcway.com> wrote <2t4v7fF1rvnn0U1@uni-berlin.de>:
Quote: I guess Mouse is hell bent on staying here.
She likes you.
Quote: She walked in
lame this morning. Vet already came and left after he cut
out an abscess. Well, as close as he could cut it out anyway.
It's very deep. He just nicked an edge where it started to
drain.
Did that improve the lameness any?
He thinks that time and soaks will do the rest. So,
Quote: we're doing the diaper dance here...
-<snip>-
Quote: Any helpful hints on diapering a foot? I'll be going out to
soak the foot for a good long while and maybe we can both
catch a snooze in the warm sun while doing so. I've got
epsom salts for the warm soaks. Betadine and salts for
inside the diaper. Electrical and duct tape.
o Davis boot (or similar, like the easycare clone) for soaking.
Will also protect padding/diaper in truly confined setting like
a stall or a small paddock.
o Avoiding the temptation to add betadine to the epsom salt
soaking solution (the organic iodine complex precipitates to
a tarry mess).
o Precutting and assembling duct-tape pieces for the hoof bottom,
to allow you to apply to the bottom in one step, fold up the sides,
and secure with additional tape on the sides.
o A compact diaper/gauze/duct tape application will allow the use
of a slightly larger than normally used ez-boot for allowing out
into less confined pasture settings (i.e., in many cases the diaper
or cotton pad may not need to extend around the shoe/edge of hoof).
o Electric fence tape, portable fence charger, and temporary plastic
push-in posts allow temporary sick-paddock construction where there's
grass for horses accustomed to the arrangements (similar to what some
folks set up for horse camping).
Quote: Anyone have luck turning a horse out with a diapered foot?
Without the added protection of a Davis boot/ezboot, our horses succeed
at shredding duct-tape covering diapers or gauze/cotton padding at the
hoof edges rather quickly (on grass or in bedded stalls), obviously YMMV.
Quote: I hate to keep her in. We have all nice soft grass in turnout,
no rocks at all. She'll be much happier outside. Wish I had
a nice piece of inner tube handy.
Good luck and enjoy the snooze if it happens.
--
Best,
Ben Turner, Mare's Reach Farm
"You cannot remain unmoved by the gentleness and conformation of a
well-bred and well-trained horse -- more than a thousand pounds of
big-boned, well-muscled animal, slick of coat and sweet of smell, obedient
and mannerly, and yet forever a menace with its innocent power and
ineradicable inclination to seek refuge in flight; and always a burden
with its need to be fed, wormed, and shod, with its liability to cuts and
infections, to laming and heaves. But when it greets you with a nicker,
nuzzles your chest, and regards you with a large liquid eye, the question
of where you want to be and what you want to do has been answered."
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| Sheryl White |
| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:05 pm |
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Quote: Anyone have luck turning a horse out with a diapered foot?
I hate to keep her in. We have all nice soft grass in turnout,
no rocks at all. She'll be much happier outside. Wish I had
a nice piece of inner tube handy.
I've never kept anybody in for a wrapped foot. After I soak the foot, I
usually pack in a bit of cotton, then make a duct tape wrap, I don't use a
diaper. You just tape together overlapping strips of duct tape big enough
to cover the bottom of the foot (I use the stall wall to tape to while
assembling) and wrap up along the outside of the hoof, then do a couple of
long strips placed around the outside to hold it together. This arrangement
has only come of once, ever, but YMMV since I know some people who just
can't get it to work. My turnout is a variety of surfaces, and as long as
it's good quality duct tape it will stand up to it. I use the most heavy
duty stuff I can buy. Have fun, hope it heals up soon.
Sheryl & the VT Apps filling up on the last of the grass available |
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| JC Dill |
| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:23 pm |
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:19:30 -0400, "RPM1" <rpm1deleteme@direcway.com>
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Quote: Wish I had
a nice piece of inner tube handy.
Duct tape the heck out of the bandage, turn her out to graze, head
into town and find a tire or bike store that will have old (dead)
inner tubes that they will gladly give you. Cut a piece of inner tube
to fit (if it's bike inner tube, cut a piece that will go around the
edge of the hoof) and duct tape on. The duct tape will wear at the
breakover point, the inner tube will prevent it from wearing further
and into your bandage. You will have to cut carefully to extract the
inner tube without cutting thru it when you go to change the bandage.
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| lizzard woman |
| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:05 pm |
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"Ben Turner" <bturner@do.ida.not.org.spam> wrote in message
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| On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:19:30 -0400, in rec.equestrian, "RPM1"
(snip)
| >Anyone have luck turning a horse out with a diapered foot?
| Without the added protection of a Davis boot/ezboot, our horses succeed
| at shredding duct-tape covering diapers or gauze/cotton padding at the
| hoof edges rather quickly (on grass or in bedded stalls), obviously YMMV.
After you have a nice wrapped hoof w/ duct tape, if you put at least 4-5
layers of duct tape at the toe and wrapped securely around the toe (half on
the top half on the bottom), I found that that will last (not wear through)
for the 24 hours until the next soaking on turnout. Usually.
--
love,
la mangosteena
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| Ben Turner |
| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:05 pm |
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:31:52 GMT, in rec.equestrian, lizzard woman wrote:
Quote: Ben Turner wrote:
(snip)
| Without the added protection of a Davis boot/ezboot, our horses succeed
| at shredding duct-tape covering diapers or gauze/cotton padding at the
| hoof edges rather quickly (on grass or in bedded stalls), obviously YMMV.
After you have a nice wrapped hoof w/ duct tape, if you put at least 4-5
layers of duct tape at the toe and wrapped securely around the toe (half on
the top half on the bottom), I found that that will last (not wear through)
for the 24 hours until the next soaking on turnout. Usually.
Given the level of effort of that many layers (both to put on and to take
off) coupled with the uncertainty ("usually"), I think I'll stick with an
easier application coupled with the use of a boot, which in my somewhat
limited experience is associated with near certainty.
Regardless of the approach taken, these are the times when prior training
regarding ground manners etc are well appreciated.
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| Laurel Reddic |
| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:05 pm |
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:19:30 -0400, "RPM1" <rpm1deleteme@direcway.com>
wrote:
Quote: I guess Mouse is hell bent on staying here. She walked in
lame this morning. Vet already came and left after he cut
out an abscess. Well, as close as he could cut it out anyway.
It's very deep. He just nicked an edge where it started to
drain. He thinks that time and soaks will do the rest. So,
we're doing the diaper dance here...
I must confess it's been a long time since anyone has needed
any sort of doctoring around here. The vet said bute for a few
days. I checked and realized that our current un-opened
bottle expired 8 years ago. We have a new bottle now.
Any helpful hints on diapering a foot? I'll be going out to
soak the foot for a good long while and maybe we can both
catch a snooze in the warm sun while doing so. I've got
epsom salts for the warm soaks. Betadine and salts for
inside the diaper. Electrical and duct tape.
Anyone have luck turning a horse out with a diapered foot?
I hate to keep her in. We have all nice soft grass in turnout,
no rocks at all. She'll be much happier outside. Wish I had
a nice piece of inner tube handy.
Ruth CM
We use the diaper and then wrap self-adhesive vet wrap around several
times with an emphasis of thicker vet wrap on the sole, and then
several good layers of duct tape. I find it lasts about 2-3 days.
Then I soak again and re-wrap. I soak using apple cider vinegar as it
is less drying to the hoof than epsom salts, but epsom salts does seem
to draw out the pus quicker. It's good that your vet didn't cut a big
hole--a little slit is usally all that is needed.
Laurel |
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