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| Sensei Shaolin |
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-FLIP: "I will be voting to give the President of the United States
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authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein
because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction
in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
Senator Kerry's comments were made to the Senate as part of the same
debate over the resolution to use force against Saddam Hussein.
-FLOP: The War in Iraq is "the wrong war in the wrong place at the
wrong time"
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Sept. 6, 2004
-FLIP: "We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent
with the
U.S.Constitution and Laws, to take necessary actions, (including, if
appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to
respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its
weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle,
John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998
-FLOP: "I Actually Did Vote For The $87 Billion Before I Voted Against
It."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA),
-FLIP: "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a
brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to
his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is
real ..."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan.23.2003
In a speech to Georgetown University.
-FLOP: CHRIS MATTHEWS: "Do you think you belong to that category of
candidates who more or
less are unhappy with this war, the way it's been fought, along with
General Clark, along with Howard Dean and not necessarily in
companionship politically on the issue of the war with people like
Lieberman, Edwards and Gephardt? Are you one of the anti-war
candidates?"
JOHN KERRY: "I am -- Yes, in the sense that I don't believe the
president took us to war as he should have, yes, absolutely." (MSNBC's
"Hardball," 1/6/04)
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It's no surprise why Kerry is losing in the polls. |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:09 pm |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:12:49 GMT, "soxfan" <soxfan@SOXROCK.com> wrote:
Quote: how many different reasons has he tried to feed the amercian people?? 27?
why can't he pick one and stick to it?
Bush administration has used 27 rationales for war in Iraq, study says
Here is my rationale for war.
See if you can tell me about the finale.
I dare ya....
http://www.amsterdamaged.net/iraq_media/hostage_videos/eugene_armstrong.wmv
Are you man enough?
It's just a little movie from the folk you're supporting.... |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:09 pm |
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| murray |
| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:09 pm |
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| soxfan |
| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:10 pm |
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<an00nie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Here is my rationale for war. See if you can tell me about the finale.
I dare ya.... Are you man enough?
nope... not man enough. 36C |
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| Earl Camembert |
| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:10 pm |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:05:52 -0500, an00nie@hotmail.com wrote:
I feel that this is political but on topic for a martial arts forum. I
ask what is the best art to defend agents getting one's head cut off?
Would it have helped if he kept his chin down? Seriously though that
is not the way to slit a throat, the best way is to insert the knife
into the middle of the neck about two to three inches below the right
ear if one is right handed. Then cut towards the wind pipe, it is much
quicker that way. Of course if they were going for maximum effect, as
I suppose they were, the screaming is a nice touch. I notice they are
becoming more proficient at removing a human head. The first one they
did took over ten minutes to cut through the spinal cord.
I don't see why a liberal would be more or less able to "take it"? I
ass/u/me you mean watching and not actually getting one's head cut
off. Do you have the URL for the other beheading? They are starting to
look the same though. The first one is the hardest then they get easer
and easer. Remember the big stink about the Berg beheading; now hardly
a mention, back to the game. |
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| murray |
| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:10 pm |
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<an00nie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jkl6l0dtjv5qnccoutroqm9lnhvgeek1jv@4ax.com...
i feel that you need help. |
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| Earl Camembert |
| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:08 pm |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:46:34 GMT, "soxfan" <soxfan@SOXROCK.com> wrote:
Quote:
an00nie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Here is my rationale for war. See if you can tell me about the finale.
I dare ya.... Are you man enough?
nope... not man enough. 36C
Do you have a link to prove that? |
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| soxfan |
| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:49 pm |
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"Earl Camembert" <nospam@forme.org> wrote in message
"soxfan" wrote:> nope... not man enough. 36C
Quote: Do you have a link to prove that?
no. but thanks for the laugh! : ) |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:11 pm |
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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:27:22 +1000, "murray" <mur@aay.comie> wrote:
Here's some MORE REALITY:
That flag you saw in the video? It said "Monotheism and Holy war"
That "monotheism" bit? That's a declaration of hatred for those who
DO believe in the trinity.
That "holy war" bit? That's what they're waging against Christianity.
And if you're a Jew? Somehow I don't think that buys you any
benevolence.
And if you don't believe in G-d? Then you are a "Non-believer".
Any of these buys you a ticket to the dull-knife haircut club.
"There is no G-d...but Allah and Mohammed is His prophet."
SO, don't fool yourself into thinking what the REAL agenda of these
folk is. |
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| soxfan |
| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:11 pm |
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<an00nie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
I want to hear the lib's reaction to cold-blooded murder. THAT is
REALITY, friend..
it just makes us hate bush's mindless handling of this whole mess
even more.
someone asked earlier...... and i haven't seen a response......
how many of these beheadings occurred before bush's war on iraq? |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:11 pm |
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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:36:17 GMT, "soxfan" <soxfan@SOXROCK.com> wrote:
Quote:
an00nie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
I want to hear the lib's reaction to cold-blooded murder. THAT is
REALITY, friend..
it just makes us hate bush's mindless handling of this whole mess
even more.
someone asked earlier...... and i haven't seen a response......
how many of these beheadings occurred before bush's war on iraq?
Of which group of people?
Iraqis?
Iranians?
Kurds?
Jews?
Didja see the video??
That flag you saw in the video? It said "Monotheism and Holy war"
That "monotheism" bit? That's a declaration of hatred for those who
DO believe in the trinity.
That "holy war" bit? That's what they're waging against Christianity.
And if you're a Jew? Somehow I don't think that buys you any
benevolence.
And if you don't believe in G-d? Then you are a "Non-believer".
Any of these buys you a ticket to the dull-knife haircut club.
"There is no G-d...but Allah and Mohammed is His prophet."
SO, don't fool yourself into thinking what the REAL agenda of these
folk is. |
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| murray |
| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:11 pm |
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asshole, the more you post beheading videos, the more deseprate you look.
wassup, you afraid bush and co are about to get ousted in a landslide?.;)
<an00nie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote: On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:48:57 GMT, Earl Camembert <nospam@forme.org
wrote:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:05:52 -0500, an00nie@hotmail.com wrote:
Let's see if this might constiture a REALITY check:
http://www.amsterdamaged.net/iraq_media/hostage_videos/eugene_armstrong.wm
v
Did you watch the whole thing?
Well????
Now, tell me about how you feel..............
I feel that this is political but on topic for a martial arts forum. I
ask what is the best art to defend agents getting one's head cut off?
Would it have helped if he kept his chin down? Seriously though that
is not the way to slit a throat, the best way is to insert the knife
into the middle of the neck about two to three inches below the right
ear if one is right handed. Then cut towards the wind pipe, it is much
quicker that way. Of course if they were going for maximum effect, as
I suppose they were, the screaming is a nice touch. I notice they are
becoming more proficient at removing a human head. The first one they
did took over ten minutes to cut through the spinal cord.
There is no element of mercy. They are going for effect, otherwise,
why record and publish?
I don't see why a liberal would be more or less able to "take it"? I
ass/u/me you mean watching and not actually getting one's head cut
off.
I want to hear the lib's reaction to cold-blooded murder. THAT is
REALITY, friend..
Do you have the URL for the other beheading?
http://www.amsterdamaged.net/iraq_media/hostage_videos/jack_hensley.wmv
And on the other hand, you can watch the USAF at work, trying very
hard to avoid civilian casualties:
http://submissions.newsfilter.org/uploads/AC130_GunshipMed.wmv
Now, that's entertainment!
They are starting to look the same though. The first one is the hardest
then they get easer
and easer.
Of course. Humans can adapt...
Remember the big stink about the Berg beheading; now hardly
a mention, back to the game.
Some game, huh?
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| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:11 pm |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:48:57 GMT, Earl Camembert <nospam@forme.org>
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Quote: On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:05:52 -0500, an00nie@hotmail.com wrote:
Let's see if this might constiture a REALITY check:
http://www.amsterdamaged.net/iraq_media/hostage_videos/eugene_armstrong.wmv
Did you watch the whole thing?
Well????
Now, tell me about how you feel..............
I feel that this is political but on topic for a martial arts forum. I
ask what is the best art to defend agents getting one's head cut off?
Would it have helped if he kept his chin down? Seriously though that
is not the way to slit a throat, the best way is to insert the knife
into the middle of the neck about two to three inches below the right
ear if one is right handed. Then cut towards the wind pipe, it is much
quicker that way. Of course if they were going for maximum effect, as
I suppose they were, the screaming is a nice touch. I notice they are
becoming more proficient at removing a human head. The first one they
did took over ten minutes to cut through the spinal cord.
There is no element of mercy. They are going for effect, otherwise,
why record and publish?
Quote: I don't see why a liberal would be more or less able to "take it"? I
ass/u/me you mean watching and not actually getting one's head cut
off.
I want to hear the lib's reaction to cold-blooded murder. THAT is
REALITY, friend..
Quote: Do you have the URL for the other beheading?
http://www.amsterdamaged.net/iraq_media/hostage_videos/jack_hensley.wmv
And on the other hand, you can watch the USAF at work, trying very
hard to avoid civilian casualties:
http://submissions.newsfilter.org/uploads/AC130_GunshipMed.wmv
Now, that's entertainment!
Quote: They are starting to look the same though. The first one is the hardest then they get easer
and easer.
Of course. Humans can adapt...
Quote: Remember the big stink about the Berg beheading; now hardly
a mention, back to the game.
Some game, huh? |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:08 pm |
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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:19:44 +1000, "murray" <mur@aay.comie> wrote:
Quote: asshole, the more you post beheading videos, the more deseprate you look.
I am not desperate at all. I am as steadfast in the mission to defeat
radical Islamic terror as ever.
it is amusing to see that the left thinks that the Islamists somehow
don't want YOU dead. And ME. And everyone who isn't one of the
"faithful".
Keep deluding yourself, spanky.
Quote: wassup, you afraid bush and co are about to get ousted in a landslide?. 
LOL, no I am just trying to find a SPINE donor for the left.
It's going to be a LONG HAUL. No matter WHO wins.
And you had better hope it's W, because if JK folds and leaves, the
terrorists will BE HERE.
Don't believe me?
Let's hear from this guy:
"After our victory in Afghanistan and the defeat of the oppressors
who had killed millions of Muslims, the legend about the invincibility
of the superpowers vanished. Our boys no longer viewed America as a
superpower. So, when they left Afghanistan, they went to Somalia and
prepared themselves carefully for a long war.
They had thought that the Americans were like the Russians, so
they trained and prepared.
They were stunned when they discovered how low was the
morale of the American soldier. America had entered with
30,000 soldiers in addition to thousands of soldiers from
different countries in the world. ...
As I said, our boys were shocked by the low morale of
the American soldier and they realized that the American
soldier was just a paper tiger.
He was unable to endure the strikes that were dealt
to his army, so he fled, and America had to stop all
its bragging and all that noise it was making in the
press after the Gulf War in which it destroyed the
infrastructure and the milk and dairy industry
that was vital for the infants and the children
and the civilians and blew up dams which were
necessary for the crops people grew to feed their
families.
Proud of this destruction, America assumed the titles
of world leader and master of the new world order.
After a few blows, it forgot all about those titles
and rushed out of Somalia in shame and disgrace,
dragging the bodies of its soldiers.
America stopped calling itself world leader and
master of the new world order, and its politicians
realized that those titles were too big for them
and that they were unworthy of them.
I was in Sudan when this happened.
I was very happy to learn of that great defeat that
America suffered, so was every Muslim. ..."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/interview.html |
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