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| dwjones45 |
 Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:42 pm |
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as someone who has followed lance armstrong's career even before he became
a 5 time TDF winner i have wondered if he had stuck with running(he was a
runner before a cyclist) if lance could have been a world class distance
runner. it is my opinion that his engine and with his training ethic that
lance could have been a sub 2:12 marathoner and maybe even lower. i would be
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| Donovan Rebbechi |
| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:42 pm |
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On 2004-06-10, dwjones45 <dwjones45@comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: as someone who has followed lance armstrong's career even before he became
a 5 time TDF winner i have wondered if he had stuck with running(he was a
runner before a cyclist) if lance could have been a world class distance
runner. it is my opinion that his engine and with his training ethic that
lance could have been a sub 2:12 marathoner and maybe even lower. i would be
interested in hearing what others in this group think.
Who knows ? Estimates range from 2:30-2:40 to 2:10.
He's got a great "engine" but the "wheels" are an unknown quantity, as is his
capacity to survive high milage running without injury.
Cheers,
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Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ |
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| Tony |
| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:03 pm |
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dwjones45 wrote in message <8u6dnalidok9NlXdRVn-hw@giganews.com>...
Quote: as someone who has followed lance armstrong's career even before he became
a 5 time TDF winner i have wondered if he had stuck with running(he was a
runner before a cyclist) if lance could have been a world class distance
runner. it is my opinion that his engine and with his training ethic that
lance could have been a sub 2:12 marathoner and maybe even lower. i would
be
interested in hearing what others in this group think.
Armstrong was a tri-athlete before a cyclist. He still runs in the
offseason (trail runs). His build, 5'10 160lbs, (like mine - 5'9 165 when
racing fit 175 now) is better suited to cycling than to competitive running.
While one can lose a certain amount of muscle mass to get lighter, bone
structure can't be changed very much. BTW LA got is ass kicked today in the
killer time trail up mont ventoux in the Dauphiné Libéré.
Stage 4 - June 10: Bédoin - Le Mont Ventoux ITT, 21.6 km
Results
1 Iban Mayo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
55.51.49 (23.202 km/h)
2 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems
0.35.26
3 Oscar Sevilla (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
1.03.09
4 Juan Miguel Mercado (Spa) Quick.Step-Davitamon
1.48.44
5 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal presented by Berry Floor
1.57.89 |
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| dwjones45 |
| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:24 pm |
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i heard read that lance was affected by the heat in today's TT as to why he
did not ride well.
"Tony" <qtrader2@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:R04yc.5802$wi2.3664@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
Quote: dwjones45 wrote in message <8u6dnalidok9NlXdRVn-hw@giganews.com>...
as someone who has followed lance armstrong's career even before he
became
a 5 time TDF winner i have wondered if he had stuck with running(he was a
runner before a cyclist) if lance could have been a world class distance
runner. it is my opinion that his engine and with his training ethic that
lance could have been a sub 2:12 marathoner and maybe even lower. i would
be
interested in hearing what others in this group think.
Armstrong was a tri-athlete before a cyclist. He still runs in the
offseason (trail runs). His build, 5'10 160lbs, (like mine - 5'9 165 when
racing fit 175 now) is better suited to cycling than to competitive
running.
While one can lose a certain amount of muscle mass to get lighter, bone
structure can't be changed very much. BTW LA got is ass kicked today in
the
killer time trail up mont ventoux in the Dauphiné Libéré.
Stage 4 - June 10: Bédoin - Le Mont Ventoux ITT, 21.6 km
Results
1 Iban Mayo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
55.51.49 (23.202 km/h)
2 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems
0.35.26
3 Oscar Sevilla (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
1.03.09
4 Juan Miguel Mercado (Spa) Quick.Step-Davitamon
1.48.44
5 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal presented by Berry Floor
1.57.89
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| Sam |
| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:35 pm |
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"Harold Buck" <no_one_knows@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:no_one_knows-4B32F3.16341910062004@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
Quote: In article <FMadnaaXDeLiTFXdRVn-hw@giganews.com>,
"dwjones45" <dwjones45@comcast.net> wrote:
i heard read that lance was affected by the heat in today's TT as to why
he
did not ride well.
That sounds like a certain time trial last year at the TDF.
Anyway, many of us in triathlon are just praying that Lance does IM
Hawaii after he hangs up the Tour. I think he'd win it.
Considering how Steve Larsen did in Lake Placid a few years back, I think
Lance would be a contender. The swim would be the really hard part for him.
How much of his swim technique does he remember? Or even how good of
swimmer was he. |
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| Bug |
| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:20 am |
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Read all about it in the new Runners World that just came out. They thought
he would make an awesome runner and he has competed in running events ...and
won.
the way his body is engineered he could do either and succeed. I wish I had
a 10th of his heart and determination....
"dwjones45" <dwjones45@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Quote: as someone who has followed lance armstrong's career even before he became
a 5 time TDF winner i have wondered if he had stuck with running(he was a
runner before a cyclist) if lance could have been a world class distance
runner. it is my opinion that his engine and with his training ethic that
lance could have been a sub 2:12 marathoner and maybe even lower. i would
be
interested in hearing what others in this group think.
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| Joe |
| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:35 am |
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He used to be a triathlete for a few years and raced juniors. He beat some
of the best racers in his day, one of them being Nick Radkewich. Nick was a
great runner, he was able to run a 30:30 10K after a 40K bike. I don't know
how good Lance was as a runner.
"dwjones45" <dwjones45@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Quote: as someone who has followed lance armstrong's career even before he became
a 5 time TDF winner i have wondered if he had stuck with running(he was a
runner before a cyclist) if lance could have been a world class distance
runner. it is my opinion that his engine and with his training ethic that
lance could have been a sub 2:12 marathoner and maybe even lower. i would
be
interested in hearing what others in this group think.
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| Williamsdrew |
| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:09 am |
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| Dan Stumpus |
| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:04 pm |
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"Tony" <qtrader2@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote
Quote: Armstrong was a tri-athlete before a cyclist. He still runs in the
offseason (trail runs). His build, 5'10 160lbs, (like mine - 5'9 165 when
racing fit 175 now) is better suited to cycling than to competitive
running.
While one can lose a certain amount of muscle mass to get lighter, bone
structure can't be changed very much. BTW LA got is ass kicked today in
the
killer time trail up mont ventoux in the Dauphiné Libéré.
A high vo2 max doesn't guarantee a fast marathon:
Mine was 76.4, with a bmi of 21.0 (5' 9", 142 lbs) and my vo2max predicted a
2:15, but I could only do 2:37.
Lance's is 83, with a bmi of 23.0 (15-20 lbs overweight for an elite
runner). If he's biomechanically designed for running he might be able to
go 2:10 (after losing weight), but if like most of us, he is imperfect, then
I'd predict in the 2:20s, just on power output and guts.
-- Dan |
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| ProfWdesk1 |
| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:51 pm |
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Quote: wonder
though if anyone has ever tried in a serious way to cross-train to maximize
their aerobic engine using the bike as well as running, and using a high
cadence to prevent extensive muscle growth - could it produce a faster
runner than just running training?
I trained a few marathoners that way once. I was amazed at the lack of benfit
to the elite runner ... and amazed AT the benefit to the novice runner ... It
appears there is a threshold of benefit ... it appears to be most benficial to
the elite or age group winning runner if they use biking for about 6 weeks a
year and not a lot after that if they train near their maximum. It is like
creating an "injury" and recovering from it. Roy |
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| Phil |
| Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 10:03 pm |
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"dwjones45" <dwjones45@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<8u6dnalidok9NlXdRVn-hw@giganews.com>...
Quote: as someone who has followed lance armstrong's career even before he became
a 5 time TDF winner i have wondered if he had stuck with running(he was a
runner before a cyclist) if lance could have been a world class distance
runner. it is my opinion that his engine and with his training ethic that
lance could have been a sub 2:12 marathoner and maybe even lower. i would be
interested in hearing what others in this group think.
Impossible to say, but I wonder if he announced he was going into pro
triathlon if there would be some soiled bike shorts out there!
Phil
http://runners4bush2004.rantweb.com |
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