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Cheryl Isaak...
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:48 pm
Guest
Ok - I'm working my way through "Life List" and mostly enjoying it. (ok, I
don't always like her, but I do envy her in some respects.)

A book has been referenced but Munroe and Sibley; the same Sibley as the
bird field guides? A relative? Or sheer coincidence? I left the book in the
car and it is too rainy to go get the book and find the reference to get the
full names. And I can't find any thing on google.(but I cold and tired)

Besides, I know one of you will know....

Cheryl
 
Rick...
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:33 pm
Guest
Cheryl Isaak wrote:
Quote:
Ok - I'm working my way through "Life List" and mostly enjoying it. (ok, I
don't always like her, but I do envy her in some respects.)

A book has been referenced but Munroe and Sibley; the same Sibley as the
bird field guides? A relative? Or sheer coincidence? I left the book in the
car and it is too rainy to go get the book and find the reference to get the
full names. And I can't find any thing on google.(but I cold and tired)

Besides, I know one of you will know....

Cheryl

There is David Allen who has published several guides and this father

was a Ornithologist and has published many scientific articles about
birds. Does this help? You might be able get some sort of time frame too.

--

Rick
Fargo, ND
N 46°53'251"
W 096°48'279"

Remember the USS Liberty
http://www.ussliberty.org/
 
Rick...
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:50 pm
Guest
Rick wrote:
Quote:
Cheryl Isaak wrote:
Ok - I'm working my way through "Life List" and mostly enjoying it.
(ok, I
don't always like her, but I do envy her in some respects.)

A book has been referenced but Munroe and Sibley; the same Sibley as the
bird field guides? A relative? Or sheer coincidence? I left the book
in the
car and it is too rainy to go get the book and find the reference to
get the
full names. And I can't find any thing on google.(but I cold and tired)

Besides, I know one of you will know....

Cheryl

There is David Allen who has published several guides and this father
was a Ornithologist and has published many scientific articles about
birds. Does this help? You might be able get some sort of time frame too.

David's Dad's name was (is?) Fred.


--

Rick
Fargo, ND
N 46°53'251"
W 096°48'279"

Remember the USS Liberty
http://www.ussliberty.org/
 
Rick...
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:53 pm
Guest
Rick wrote:
Quote:
Cheryl Isaak wrote:
Ok - I'm working my way through "Life List" and mostly enjoying it.
(ok, I
don't always like her, but I do envy her in some respects.)

A book has been referenced but Munroe and Sibley; the same Sibley as the
bird field guides? A relative? Or sheer coincidence? I left the book
in the
car and it is too rainy to go get the book and find the reference to
get the
full names. And I can't find any thing on google.(but I cold and tired)

Besides, I know one of you will know....

Cheryl

There is David Allen who has published several guides and this father
was a Ornithologist and has published many scientific articles about
birds. Does this help? You might be able get some sort of time frame too.

There was also a Charles Sibley who was an Ornithologist at Yale but,

not related to Fred or David.

--

Rick
Fargo, ND
N 46°53'251"
W 096°48'279"

Remember the USS Liberty
http://www.ussliberty.org/
 
Cheryl Isaak...
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:18 am
Guest
On 7/1/09 10:53 PM, in article h2h7f5$i65$2 at (no spam) aioe.org, "Rick"
<Pawalleye at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Rick wrote:
Cheryl Isaak wrote:
Ok - I'm working my way through "Life List" and mostly enjoying it.
(ok, I
don't always like her, but I do envy her in some respects.)

A book has been referenced but Munroe and Sibley; the same Sibley as the
bird field guides? A relative? Or sheer coincidence? I left the book
in the
car and it is too rainy to go get the book and find the reference to
get the
full names. And I can't find any thing on google.(but I cold and tired)

Besides, I know one of you will know....

Cheryl

There is David Allen who has published several guides and this father
was a Ornithologist and has published many scientific articles about
birds. Does this help? You might be able get some sort of time frame too.

There was also a Charles Sibley who was an Ornithologist at Yale but,
not related to Fred or David.


Still pouring, but I decided to go get the book anyway. (looks like no
lacrosse tonight). Will let everyone know, if someone hasn't answered the
puzzzler first.


C
 
Martini...
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:50 am
Guest
Cheryl Isaak wrote:
Quote:
On 7/1/09 10:53 PM, in article h2h7f5$i65$2 at (no spam) aioe.org, "Rick"
Pawalleye at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Rick wrote:
Cheryl Isaak wrote:
Ok - I'm working my way through "Life List" and mostly enjoying it.
(ok, I
don't always like her, but I do envy her in some respects.)

A book has been referenced but Munroe and Sibley; the same Sibley
as the bird field guides? A relative? Or sheer coincidence? I left
the book
in the
car and it is too rainy to go get the book and find the reference
to get the
full names. And I can't find any thing on google.(but I cold and
tired)

Besides, I know one of you will know....

Cheryl

There is David Allen who has published several guides and this
father
was a Ornithologist and has published many scientific articles about
birds. Does this help? You might be able get some sort of time
frame too.

There was also a Charles Sibley who was an Ornithologist at Yale but,
not related to Fred or David.


Still pouring, but I decided to go get the book anyway. (looks like no
lacrosse tonight). Will let everyone know, if someone hasn't answered
the puzzzler first.


C

Cheryl, you must be referring to the following:

Sibley, C. G. and B. L. Munroe. 1990. Distribution and Taxonomy of the Birds of
the World. Yale University Press, New Haven, Connecticut.

Here's one link that brings up their entire list:

http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Sibley-Monroe_checklist_1/

Enjoy!

Martin
 
Jerry Avins...
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:22 am
Guest
Martini wrote:

Binaries aren't permitted here. Some ISPs strip them.

Jerry
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Martini...
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:00 am
Guest
Jerry Avins wrote:
Quote:
Martini wrote:

Binaries aren't permitted here. Some ISPs strip them.

Jerry

Hmmmm. I'm confused. I see lots of links here, including links to binary
resources on web sites. What's different about the link I posted?

Martin
 
Larry Sheldon...
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:10 am
Guest
Martini wrote:
Quote:
Jerry Avins wrote:
Martini wrote:

Binaries aren't permitted here. Some ISPs strip them.

Jerry

Hmmmm. I'm confused. I see lots of links here, including links to binary
resources on web sites. What's different about the link I posted?

A link is just text. The linked-to material is not part of the message
(occupies no space in the message).

I don't know if this is what the discussion is about but I noticed a
while ago that a message here had a .gif attached which was empty and
wondered what that was about.

I often see messages with a trailer saying that non-text material had
been deleted, but this is the first time an empty .gif has been left.

[time passes] yeah it was "one_pix.gif" attached to a Martini response
to Cheryl, which response also contained a link to knowledgerush.com.
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Nikki...
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:41 am
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Martini wrote:

Quote:
Jerry Avins wrote:
Martini wrote:

Binaries aren't permitted here. Some ISPs strip them.

Jerry

Hmmmm. I'm confused. I see lots of links here, including links to binary
resources on web sites. What's different about the link I posted?

Your post had a file (a very small one) attached to it.

The file name was "one_pix.gif".
 
Martini...
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:22 pm
Guest
Nikki wrote:
Quote:
Martini wrote:

Jerry Avins wrote:
Martini wrote:

Binaries aren't permitted here. Some ISPs strip them.

Jerry

Hmmmm. I'm confused. I see lots of links here, including links to
binary resources on web sites. What's different about the link I
posted?

Your post had a file (a very small one) attached to it.

The file name was "one_pix.gif".

Thanks, Larry and Nikki. This is a mystery. I made no attachments to my reply
post, but sure enough, there it is on my 9:50am post today.

I suspect sabotage of some sort. The image in this one little file is 1 pixel x
1 pixel in size, i.e., one pixel. It cannot be seen with the human eye, despite
expanding it 20 times. Such one-pixel images sometimes harbor malware or hidden
instructions to "go to" or "report to" a specific Internet address.

I'd suggest that everybody delete my message just to be sure it isn't further
propagated.

Martin
 
Martini...
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:24 pm
Guest
Jerry Avins wrote:
Quote:
Martini wrote:

Binaries aren't permitted here. Some ISPs strip them.

Jerry

Thanks, Jerry. I didn't attach the GIF file and can't explain where it came
from. I have deleted the posting entirely, just to be sure.

Martin
 
Jerry Avins...
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:48 pm
Guest
Martini wrote:
Quote:
Jerry Avins wrote:
Martini wrote:

Binaries aren't permitted here. Some ISPs strip them.

Jerry

Thanks, Jerry. I didn't attach the GIF file and can't explain where it came
from. I have deleted the posting entirely, just to be sure.

I'm puzzled too. Unfortunately, once something is out in usenet space,
there's no way to make it go completely away.

Jerry
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Larry Sheldon...
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:04 pm
Guest
Martini wrote:

Quote:
The file name was "one_pix.gif".

Thanks, Larry and Nikki. This is a mystery. I made no attachments to my reply
post, but sure enough, there it is on my 9:50am post today.

I suspect sabotage of some sort. The image in this one little file is 1 pixel x
1 pixel in size, i.e., one pixel. It cannot be seen with the human eye, despite
expanding it 20 times. Such one-pixel images sometimes harbor malware or hidden
instructions to "go to" or "report to" a specific Internet address.

That was my assumption, but none of my tests (crude as they are)
detected anything at all. (I forgot to look at the size of it! Can't
believe I did that.)

Quote:
I'd suggest that everybody delete my message just to be sure it isn't further
propagated.

Outstanding advice.

I just thought of another test I could run--if it reports anything I'll
let you know.

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of System Administrators:
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learn from their mistakes.
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Martini...
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:07 pm
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"Nikki" <noemail at (no spam) noemailplease.com> wrote in message
news:95sp45lo7ergdfap8k11ufpv8tvbs64b4l at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Martini wrote:

Quote:
Jerry Avins wrote:
Martini wrote:

Binaries aren't permitted here. Some ISPs strip them.

Jerry

Hmmmm. I'm confused. I see lots of links here, including links to binary
resources on web sites. What's different about the link I posted?

Your post had a file (a very small one) attached to it.

The file name was "one_pix.gif".

I have examined the contents of the GIF file and found nothing to be concerned
about. There are no instructions of any kind, whether for action by this file
or for referral to another Internet site or resource.

Sleep soundly!

Martin
 
 
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