| Hobby Forum Index » Models - Rockets » X-Prize ship explores on test launch |
|
Page 1 of 2 Goto page 1, 2 Next |
|
| Author |
Message |
| Steve Ruud |
 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:11 am |
|
|
|
Guest
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| Niall Oswald |
| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:08 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
I guess explores would kinda be the intention  - not explodes!
That looks unfortunate to say the least, any ideas what sort of propulsion
they were using? (Solid,liquid,hybrid?)
--
Niall Oswald
=========
UKRA 1345 L0
EARS 1151
MARS
CURS
"Gravity assisted pieces of the rocket raining from the sky should be
avoided. It is also financially undesirable."
-Portland State Aerospace Society
"Steve Ruud" <steveATTITUDEruud@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5d6fh0dpuf5uv45jc1rlefntode30vcsb2@4ax.com...
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| Fred Shecter |
| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:09 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
http://www.ehobbies.com/est2189.html
Collectors items!
--
"""Remove "zorch" from address (2 places) to reply.
"Steve Ruud" <steveATTITUDEruud@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5d6fh0dpuf5uv45jc1rlefntode30vcsb2@4ax.com...
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| Fred Shecter |
| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:09 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
It uses APCP. Let's not say it "exploded", OK?
--
"""Remove "zorch" from address (2 places) to reply.
"Fred Shecter" <fred.e.shecter@zorch.alum.zorch.mit.edu> wrote in message news:...
Quote: http://www.ehobbies.com/est2189.html
Collectors items!
--
"""Remove "zorch" from address (2 places) to reply.
"Steve Ruud" <steveATTITUDEruud@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5d6fh0dpuf5uv45jc1rlefntode30vcsb2@4ax.com...
as reported on CNN.com:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/08/09/bc.privaterocket.ap/index.html
I think this one will take the CATO prize for 2004.
Steve
(remove ATTITUDE to reply via e-mail)
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| Dwayne Surdu-Miller |
| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:11 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
A quote from the Space Transport Corporation's news webpage:
-->Rubicon launch status
-->Posted by: STC @ 09:31am on August 7th
-->
-->Launch is still a go for Sunday! Weather is looking good.
-->
-->Unfortunately, we cannot accomodate the public at this launch and so
-->will not disclose the exact location or time. Keep an eye on regional
-->papers and TV news!
I think they managed to attract more attention than they were hoping for :-)
Dwayne Surdu-Miller
SAROS #1 |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| nojunk@this_address.com ( |
| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:08 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| David Weinshenker |
| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:11 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
Ken Sparks wrote:
Quote: This was the Armadillo Aerospace group. Fuel was hydrogen peroxide and
alcohol. It rose about 200 feet (goal was 20,000) then dropped to the
ground sans parachute. Looked like the tanks ruptured on impact, and
the pieces went higher than the flight!
No, that was a different one... info here:
http://www.armadilloaerospace.com/n.x/Armadillo/Home/News?news_id=272
It got up to about 600 feet and then ran out of propellant (too much was
used getting the engine to preheat properly). The tank didn't really burst -
it fractured off the flange and was kicked loose by the remaining pressurant
gas pressure.
The one in the CNN article was in Washington - it was a solid propellant
rocket; the builders attributed the CATO to "a bubble" in the propellant.
-dave w |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| Fred Shecter |
| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:11 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
Incorrect.
--
"""Remove "zorch" from address (2 places) to reply.
"Ken Sparks" <kenneth.w.sparks@moc.gnieob> wrote in message
news:I27516.LM4@news.boeing.com...
Quote:
"Niall Oswald" <niall@nospam.oswald.ndo.co.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cf8a83$7am$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
I guess explores would kinda be the intention - not explodes!
That looks unfortunate to say the least, any ideas what sort of propulsion
they were using? (Solid,liquid,hybrid?)
as reported on CNN.com:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/08/09/bc.privaterocket.ap/index.html
This was the Armadillo Aerospace group. Fuel was hydrogen peroxide and
alcohol.
It rose about 200 feet (goal was 20,000) then dropped to the ground sans
parachute.
Looked like the tanks ruptured on impact, and the pieces went higher than
the flight!
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| Ken Sparks |
| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:12 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
"Niall Oswald" <niall@nospam.oswald.ndo.co.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cf8a83$7am$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
This was the Armadillo Aerospace group. Fuel was hydrogen peroxide and
alcohol.
It rose about 200 feet (goal was 20,000) then dropped to the ground sans
parachute.
Looked like the tanks ruptured on impact, and the pieces went higher than
the flight! |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| Ken Sparks |
| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:09 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
"David Weinshenker" <daze39@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4117E65F.233F950E@earthlink.net...
Quote: Ken Sparks wrote:
This was the Armadillo Aerospace group. Fuel was hydrogen peroxide and
alcohol. It rose about 200 feet (goal was 20,000) then dropped to the
ground sans parachute. Looked like the tanks ruptured on impact, and
the pieces went higher than the flight!
No, that was a different one... info here:
http://www.armadilloaerospace.com/n.x/Armadillo/Home/News?news_id=272
It got up to about 600 feet and then ran out of propellant (too much was
used getting the engine to preheat properly). The tank didn't really
burst -
it fractured off the flange and was kicked loose by the remaining
pressurant
gas pressure.
The one in the CNN article was in Washington - it was a solid propellant
rocket; the builders attributed the CATO to "a bubble" in the propellant.
-dave w
You're right - I had read about the Armadillo Aerospace crash in Slashdot,
and didn't stop to see if there had been two X-Prize crashes. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| Dan Chandler |
| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:09 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
They've learned from their mistakes, and received major news coverage.
Each news article seems to have mentioned the need for investors. It's
possible that their ~$20k loss could be beneficial if they manage to
attract an "angel" investor or two.
I don't have investor cash, but I bought a T-Shirt to support them.
http://www.space-transport.com/?stc=merchandise
I think their chances of winning the X-prize are slim, but they're
working hard anyways. That's pretty cool.
Personally I think we should feel a growth in hobby rocketry due to
the X-prize. Each time one of these pro-space, pro-science articles
gets published, it gets people thinking and dreaming.... (or is it
just me?)
I wasn't around for the first space race, but it's awesome to see all
these teams making advancements this year. I'd love to see a tight
race for X-prize, but hopefully those who don't win, won't stop
working towards their goals. It's not just X-prize either... Ky's CSXT
group did a great job booting up their tin can to 77 miles, slashing
government red tape along the way. It'll be that much easier for the
next group to do it! Who's next?
Dan Chandler
NAR# 53285
TRA# 1362
President, SNEAR
On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 12:32:06 -0600, Dwayne Surdu-Miller
<miller@SEDsystems.nospam.ca> wrote:
Quote:
I think they managed to attract more attention than they were hoping for :-)
Dwayne Surdu-Miller
SAROS #1 |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| EldredP |
| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:08 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
In article <10hfgp55lu5a3a6@corp.supernews.com>, Dwayne Surdu-Miller
<miller@SEDsystems.nospam.ca> writes:
Quote: A quote from the Space Transport Corporation's news webpage:
-->Rubicon launch status
-->Posted by: STC @ 09:31am on August 7th
--
-->Launch is still a go for Sunday! Weather is looking good.
--
-->Unfortunately, we cannot accomodate the public at this launch and so
-->will not disclose the exact location or time. Keep an eye on regional
-->papers and TV news!
I think they managed to attract more attention than they were hoping for
Hey, they did a bang-up job! <g>
Eldred
--
http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
Screamers League
IICC League
GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80
Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71
Hist. +82.34 MoH:na
N2k3 rank:in progress
Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin
Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro
US East |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| Jerry Irvine |
| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:08 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
In article <cf90f2$9a0$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Niall Oswald" <niall@nospam.oswald.ndo.co.co.uk> wrote:
Quote: realise that the John Carmack of Armadillo is (correct me if I'm wrong) the
John Carmack of 'Quake' and 'Doom' fame...
Correct and he has the absolute respect of the advanced amateur society
at large.
Jerry
--
Jerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA
Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net>
Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration.
Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com
My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| Jerry Irvine |
| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:08 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
In article <411809FC.B6302FDC@earthlink.net>,
David Weinshenker <daze39@earthlink.net> wrote:
Quote: necessary items are fairly long lead times, so we are probably
grounded for five weeks.
ROFL
5 weeks
long
:)
Jerry
--
Jerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA
Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net>
Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration.
Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com
My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| Jerry Irvine |
| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:08 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
In article <b2qfh0pi5v34jg9jikj3dajc9binqp5946@4ax.com>,
Dan Chandler <someuser@somedomain.com> wrote:
Quote: They've learned from their mistakes, and received major news coverage.
People go to the races to see the crashes. That means the crowds of
cameras will be HUGE for the success now!
Jerry
--
Jerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA
Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net>
Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration.
Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com
My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
