HI All

As part of the preparation for an overseas house move, I've been
'sorting out' the cupboards, and have come up with a number of older
items that I can't identify (even after extensive searching on the
web) ......

I'm new to this group - is it OK to post links to pictures of these
items, and invite the regular experts to offer an opinion ?

"Adrian Brentnall" <adrianthepapersand the trash@ambquality.co.uk> wrote in
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HI All

As part of the preparation for an overseas house move, I've been
'sorting out' the cupboards, and have come up with a number of older
items that I can't identify (even after extensive searching on the
web) ......

I'm new to this group - is it OK to post links to pictures of these
items, and invite the regular experts to offer an opinion ?

Sure, post a link--just don't attach the image to the posting!

HI Mike

Many thanks for that.

Please take a look at http://www.inspired-glass.co.uk/antiques.htm -
there's a photo of a Cauldon bowl that I'd like some help with - also
a 'mystery object' that I'd love to identify.

Many thanks
Adrian

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:26:18 +0000 (UTC), "Mike Dworetsky"
platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> wrote:

"Adrian Brentnall" <adrianthepapersand the trash@ambquality.co.uk> wrote
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HI All

As part of the preparation for an overseas house move, I've been
'sorting out' the cupboards, and have come up with a number of older
items that I can't identify (even after extensive searching on the
web) ......

I'm new to this group - is it OK to post links to pictures of these
items, and invite the regular experts to offer an opinion ?

Sure, post a link--just don't attach the image to the posting!

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HI Mike

Many thanks for that.

Please take a look at http://www.inspired-glass.co.uk/antiques.htm -
there's a photo of a Cauldon bowl that I'd like some help with - also
a 'mystery object' that I'd love to identify.

Many thanks
Adrian

"Adrian Brentnall" <adrianthepapersand the trash@ambquality.co.uk> wrote in
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HI Mike

Many thanks for that.

Please take a look at http://www.inspired-glass.co.uk/antiques.htm -
there's a photo of a Cauldon bowl that I'd like some help with - also
a 'mystery object' that I'd love to identify.

Many thanks
Adrian


My wife is better at this than I am. She says

The Cauldon item is a 20th Century (1904-26) soup tureen (from size and
appearance) and it seems to be missing its lid. Cauldon, England pottery
was in Hanley, Staffordshire, near Stoke on Trent, an area still known as
"The Potteries".

The other item was identified by Kris as an iron, and I'll go along with
that. Probably late Victorian, and indeed fairly common at antique fairs,
etc. I think you actually would put hot coals in the chamber then seal it
up with the cap and close the lid.

#2 is an old iron. Someone in your family ironed their clothes
with that thing. They're actually quite common.

"Adrian Brentnall" <adrianthepapersand the trash@ambquality.co.uk> wrote in
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HI Mike

Many thanks for that.

Please take a look at http://www.inspired-glass.co.uk/antiques.htm -
there's a photo of a Cauldon bowl that I'd like some help with - also
a 'mystery object' that I'd love to identify.

Many thanks
Adrian


I could be wrong, but I believe #1 should have a lid. Generally, a
bowl or planter wouldn't have such a narrow opening unless
something was to fit into it.

#2 is an old iron. Someone in your family ironed their clothes
with that thing. They're actually quite common.

In message <6yD2e.16267$DW.9579@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>, Kris Baker
kris.baker@prodigyy.net> writes
#2 is an old iron. Someone in your family ironed their clothes
with that thing. They're actually quite common.

Far be it from me to disagree with an avowed expert but I believe it to
be a little more interesting than that.

I think it is indeed a flat iron but combined with a spirit stove for
heating curling tongs; obviously a patent ladies travelling kit or
somesuch. I would expect their to be either a patent date, number or
design number on it. Curling Tongs, as you know, were not just for
curling hair. I would look and see if you can find anymore of the kit it
belongs to.

I would have to look closer to work out how the iron is heated; if it is
really plated then it was probably not heated by warming on a fire.

I agree with you about the value though; cleaned up it would worth
only about seven or eight pints of Stella.

HI Mike (& Mrs Mike)
Thanks for the comments...

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:48:41 +0000 (UTC), "Mike Dworetsky"
platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> wrote:

"Adrian Brentnall" <adrianthepapersand the trash@ambquality.co.uk> wrote
in
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HI Mike

Many thanks for that.

Please take a look at http://www.inspired-glass.co.uk/antiques.htm -
there's a photo of a Cauldon bowl that I'd like some help with - also
a 'mystery object' that I'd love to identify.

Many thanks
Adrian


My wife is better at this than I am. She says

The Cauldon item is a 20th Century (1904-26) soup tureen (from size and
appearance) and it seems to be missing its lid. Cauldon, England pottery
was in Hanley, Staffordshire, near Stoke on Trent, an area still known as
"The Potteries".

Interesting - do you think it's big enough for a soup tureen ? I've
just measured - and, full to the brim, it only holds 3/4 of a UK pint
- that's not a whole lot of soup.

As I said further up this thread - I've never known this piece to have
a lid - but it could well have been broken before I knew it....

The other item was identified by Kris as an iron, and I'll go along with
that. Probably late Victorian, and indeed fairly common at antique fairs,
etc. I think you actually would put hot coals in the chamber then seal it
up with the cap and close the lid.

Not so sure about that.... why the 'wick' - and what is designed to
sit on the 'supports'....? The inside of the cap which screws onto the
section holding the wick has a round leather 'washer' fitted - looks
as if it's supposed to keep liquid inside.....

This is an odd one <g

Thanks
Adrian

Based upon the one image,
it looks like you open it, unscrew the lid, pour in some gas/oil,
and let it heat up.
If you look very carefully you will see the rests for lying your curling

Regards
Adrian
Suffolk UK
I meant to commiserate with you because I live in Norfolk and cannot

"Adrian Brentnall" <adrianthepapersand the trash@ambquality.co.uk> wrote in
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HI Mike (& Mrs Mike)
Thanks for the comments...

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:48:41 +0000 (UTC), "Mike Dworetsky"
platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> wrote:

"Adrian Brentnall" <adrianthepapersand the trash@ambquality.co.uk> wrote
in
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HI Mike

Many thanks for that.

Please take a look at http://www.inspired-glass.co.uk/antiques.htm -
there's a photo of a Cauldon bowl that I'd like some help with - also
a 'mystery object' that I'd love to identify.

Many thanks
Adrian


My wife is better at this than I am. She says

The Cauldon item is a 20th Century (1904-26) soup tureen (from size and
appearance) and it seems to be missing its lid. Cauldon, England pottery
was in Hanley, Staffordshire, near Stoke on Trent, an area still known as
"The Potteries".

Interesting - do you think it's big enough for a soup tureen ? I've
just measured - and, full to the brim, it only holds 3/4 of a UK pint
- that's not a whole lot of soup.

As I said further up this thread - I've never known this piece to have
a lid - but it could well have been broken before I knew it....

Old china services often had individual lidded soups, sometimes
referred to as "cream soups".

The other item was identified by Kris as an iron, and I'll go along with
that. Probably late Victorian, and indeed fairly common at antique fairs,
etc. I think you actually would put hot coals in the chamber then seal it
up with the cap and close the lid.

Not so sure about that.... why the 'wick' - and what is designed to
sit on the 'supports'....? The inside of the cap which screws onto the
section holding the wick has a round leather 'washer' fitted - looks
as if it's supposed to keep liquid inside.....

This is an odd one <g

Thanks
Adrian

There are hundreds of different models of irons. This
one's obviously made to self-heat. Based upon the one image,
it looks like you open it, unscrew the lid, pour in some gas/oil,
and let it heat up.

Unfortunately, whatever yours is, it must not have any markings
left due to its poor condition?

Here's a selection of similar devices: http://snipurl.com/dr3y
Maybe you can find one like yours?

In message <6sbm415u78gtdgfsda1t0hsivo304v3vvm@4ax.com>, Adrian
Brentnall <adrianthepapersand@the.trash.invalid> writes
Regards
Adrian
Suffolk UK
I meant to commiserate with you because I live in Norfolk

and cannot
imagine what it is like to be an inferior breed from Suffolk

and be
forced to support Ipswich Town. Have Christianity, plumbing and literacy

reached your neck of the woods yet or are you still bowing down to wood
and stone?

I have seen many tin plate spirit lamps for curling tongs. I have never
seen a tinplate iron. I could not find any examples on the W.W.W. but
here is a not very good picture of a stand for putting on a gas ring.

http://www.cantabrianet.com/detara/pages/dh31s_jpg.htm

In message <F0G2e.12686$ZB6.7463@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>, Kris Baker
kris.baker@prodigyy.net> writes
Based upon the one image,
it looks like you open it, unscrew the lid, pour in some gas/oil,
and let it heat up.
If you look very carefully you will see the rests for lying your curling
tongs (or irons) on either side of the wick to allow them to heat. These
would not necessarily be for curling hair but curling lace and cotton
collars and cuffs. (There is a reference to using tongs for this in Mrs
Gaskill somewhere but I cannot be bothered to look it up.) It is, by the
way, from its design self evidently a spirit and not an oil/gas lamp
which would smell too much for the purpose anyway.

I personally can't see how the lamp could be used to heat up the iron.
Just lighting the lamp would not give a uniform enough heat and would
take a long time. You would not want to warm the thing up in an oven or
by a fire as it is full of methylated spirits (I do not know about
anyone else on this group but I do not make a habit of placing Molotov
cocktails by the fire or in the oven at regulo 7). For this reason I
suspect that it might not be a flat iron at all but a novelty curling
tong warmer in the shape of a flat iron but would not like to say this
for sure