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| Alan Yates |
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| PyroLeo |
| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:14 am |
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Perhaps Pyrolant is a brand name? The reference here seems to be referring to
formulations using flourocarbons as oxidizers, for what ultimate purpose I
don't know. Maybe you can find an abstract somewhere of what this particular
conference seminar is about? Look at item 11.10, about half-way down the page.
http://www.ict.fhg.de/english/events/anconf/a34prog3.html
Leo
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| Alan Yates |
| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:11 am |
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I don't think it is a brand name, I've seen the term used in several
places. The context suggests it means "composition" perhaps
specifically pyrogens or primes. Not sure, that's why I ask.
PyroLeo wrote:
Quote: Perhaps Pyrolant is a brand name? The reference here seems to be referring to
formulations using flourocarbons as oxidizers, for what ultimate purpose I
don't know. Maybe you can find an abstract somewhere of what this particular
conference seminar is about? Look at item 11.10, about half-way down the page.
http://www.ict.fhg.de/english/events/anconf/a34prog3.html
Leo
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Alan Yates alany@ay.com.au wrote:
What is the definition of "pyrolant"?
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| Kansas |
| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:13 pm |
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| donald j haarmann |
| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:14 pm |
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"Alan Yates" <alany@ay.com.au
Quote: What is the definition of "pyrolant"?
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Pyrolant?
Pyro what?-
1 pyroaurite
2 pyroballogy
3 pyrobelonite
4 pyrobitumen
5 pyroborate
6 pyrocephalus rubinus
7 pyroceram
8 pyrochlore
9 pyrochlorite
10 pyrochorite
11 pyroclastic
12 pyrocystis noctiluca
13 pyroemerald
14 pyroetinite
15 pyrogallol
16 pyrogen
17 pyrogenetic
18 pyrogenous
19 pyrogentic
20 pyrognostics
21 pyrography
22 pyrolaty
25 pyroligneous acid
26 pyroligneous alcohol
27 pyrolith
28 pyrolusite
29 pyrolysis
30 pyromancy
31 pyromeride
32 pyrometer
33 pyromorphite
34 pyromucic aldehyde
35 pyron
36 pyronema confluens
37 pyronia
38 pyrope
39 pyrophane
40 pyrophanite
41 pyrophore
42 pyrophoric
43 pyrophosphoric acid
44 pyrophosphorite
45 pyrophyllite
46 pyrophysalite
47 pyropissite!
48 pyroretin
49 pyrosclerite
50 pyrosis
51 pyrosmalite
52 pyrosoma elegans
53 pyrosomida
54 pyrostegia venusta
55 pyrostibite
56 pyrostilpmite
57 pyrosulfuryl chloride
58 pyrosulphuric acid
59 pyrotheria
60 pyroxene
61 pyroxmangite
62 pyroxylin
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donald j haarmann
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Professor Edgeworth of All Soul's avoided
conversational English, persistently using words
and phrases one expects to meet only in books.
One evening, Lawrence [the famous Lawrence of
Arabia] returned from a visit to London, and
Edgeworth met him at the gate. "Was it very
caliginous in the metropolis?"
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| sanscan |
| Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:12 am |
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I did searches on Netscape, and Alta Vista and found the
aswer in less than a minute... Do you have a computer? <G>
donald j haarmann wrote:
Quote: "Alan Yates" <alany@ay.com.au
What is the definition of "pyrolant"?
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Pyrolant?
Pyro what?-
1 pyroaurite
2 pyroballogy
3 pyrobelonite
4 pyrobitumen
5 pyroborate
6 pyrocephalus rubinus
7 pyroceram
8 pyrochlore
9 pyrochlorite
10 pyrochorite
11 pyroclastic
12 pyrocystis noctiluca
13 pyroemerald
14 pyroetinite
15 pyrogallol
16 pyrogen
17 pyrogenetic
18 pyrogenous
19 pyrogentic
20 pyrognostics
21 pyrography
22 pyrolaty
25 pyroligneous acid
26 pyroligneous alcohol
27 pyrolith
28 pyrolusite
29 pyrolysis
30 pyromancy
31 pyromeride
32 pyrometer
33 pyromorphite
34 pyromucic aldehyde
35 pyron
36 pyronema confluens
37 pyronia
38 pyrope
39 pyrophane
40 pyrophanite
41 pyrophore
42 pyrophoric
43 pyrophosphoric acid
44 pyrophosphorite
45 pyrophyllite
46 pyrophysalite
47 pyropissite!
48 pyroretin
49 pyrosclerite
50 pyrosis
51 pyrosmalite
52 pyrosoma elegans
53 pyrosomida
54 pyrostegia venusta
55 pyrostibite
56 pyrostilpmite
57 pyrosulfuryl chloride
58 pyrosulphuric acid
59 pyrotheria
60 pyroxene
61 pyroxmangite
62 pyroxylin
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| Alan Yates |
| Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:12 am |
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I did the same searches, and I still can't see a clear definition.
Maybe I am just blind?
sanscan wrote:
Quote: I did searches on Netscape, and Alta Vista and found the aswer in less
than a minute... Do you have a computer? <G
donald j haarmann wrote:
"Alan Yates" <alany@ay.com.au
What is the definition of "pyrolant"?
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Pyrolant?
Pyro what?-
1 pyroaurite
2 pyroballogy
3 pyrobelonite
4 pyrobitumen
5 pyroborate
6 pyrocephalus rubinus
7 pyroceram
8 pyrochlore
9 pyrochlorite
10 pyrochorite
11 pyroclastic
12 pyrocystis noctiluca
13 pyroemerald
14 pyroetinite
15 pyrogallol
16 pyrogen
17 pyrogenetic
18 pyrogenous
19 pyrogentic
20 pyrognostics
21 pyrography
22 pyrolaty
25 pyroligneous acid
26 pyroligneous alcohol
27 pyrolith
28 pyrolusite
29 pyrolysis
30 pyromancy
31 pyromeride
32 pyrometer
33 pyromorphite
34 pyromucic aldehyde
35 pyron
36 pyronema confluens
37 pyronia
38 pyrope
39 pyrophane
40 pyrophanite
41 pyrophore
42 pyrophoric
43 pyrophosphoric acid
44 pyrophosphorite
45 pyrophyllite
46 pyrophysalite
47 pyropissite!
48 pyroretin
49 pyrosclerite
50 pyrosis
51 pyrosmalite
52 pyrosoma elegans
53 pyrosomida
54 pyrostegia venusta
55 pyrostibite
56 pyrostilpmite
57 pyrosulfuryl chloride
58 pyrosulphuric acid
59 pyrotheria
60 pyroxene
61 pyroxmangite
62 pyroxylin
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| PyroLeo |
| Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:14 am |
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Alan Yates wrote:
Quote: I did the same searches, and I still can't see a clear definition.
Maybe I am just blind?
sanscan wrote:
I did searches on Netscape, and Alta Vista and found the aswer in less
than a minute... Do you have a computer? <G
donald j haarmann wrote:
"Alan Yates" <alany@ay.com.au
What is the definition of "pyrolant"?
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Pyrolant?
Pyro what?-
1 pyroaurite
2 pyroballogy
3 pyrobelonite
4 pyrobitumen
5 pyroborate
6 pyrocephalus rubinus
7 pyroceram
8 pyrochlore
9 pyrochlorite
10 pyrochorite
11 pyroclastic
12 pyrocystis noctiluca
13 pyroemerald
14 pyroetinite
15 pyrogallol
16 pyrogen
17 pyrogenetic
18 pyrogenous
19 pyrogentic
20 pyrognostics
21 pyrography
22 pyrolaty
25 pyroligneous acid
26 pyroligneous alcohol
27 pyrolith
28 pyrolusite
29 pyrolysis
30 pyromancy
31 pyromeride
32 pyrometer
33 pyromorphite
34 pyromucic aldehyde
35 pyron
36 pyronema confluens
37 pyronia
38 pyrope
39 pyrophane
40 pyrophanite
41 pyrophore
42 pyrophoric
43 pyrophosphoric acid
44 pyrophosphorite
45 pyrophyllite
46 pyrophysalite
47 pyropissite!
48 pyroretin
49 pyrosclerite
50 pyrosis
51 pyrosmalite
52 pyrosoma elegans
53 pyrosomida
54 pyrostegia venusta
55 pyrostibite
56 pyrostilpmite
57 pyrosulfuryl chloride
58 pyrosulphuric acid
59 pyrotheria
60 pyroxene
61 pyroxmangite
62 pyroxylin
Alan,
Did you see the reply a few days ago from Kansas? He posted a link to
the abstract of a Wiley book which contained a little info on Pyrolants.
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/101520415/ABSTRACT
It appears that the term Pyrolant refers to a class of formulas which
contain both magnesium and a flouropolymer oxidizer such as Teflon
and/or Viton. From what it says there they're used in flares, tracers,
igniters, solid rocket propellents, incendiary devices, and so on.
Actually this seems very reminiscent of one of the old Ellern military
formulas for an infrared flare comp.
Leo |
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| Sir Jackery |
| Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:14 pm |
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That link doesn't describe what pyrolant is. It simply describes something
that is in some way a or a type of pyrolant. I've performed searches on
google and a couple of other search engine and was unable to find any
useful information except for a few links to the wiley publishers about a
specific book describing a few different things that had the word in
their description...
http://doi.wiley.com/10.1002/1521-4087(200211)27:5%3C284::AID-PREP284%3E3.0.CO;2-T
http://doi.wiley.com/10.1002/1521-4087(200006)25:3%3C112::AID-PREP112%3E3.0.CO;2-S
http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/1521-4087(200211)27:5%3C262::AID-PREP262%3E3.0.CO;2-8
http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/prep.200400029
there are many more...
check
http://www.google.com/search?q=pyrolant&num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-22,GGLD:en&filter=0
for a list.
None seem to include a definition of what pyrolant is though. Now you've
got me curious. If anyone finds a rock hard definition of what this
strange word means... post it!
-j
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, PyroLeo wrote:
Quote: Alan Yates wrote:
I did the same searches, and I still can't see a clear definition.
Maybe I am just blind?
sanscan wrote:
I did searches on Netscape, and Alta Vista and found the aswer in less
than a minute... Do you have a computer? <G
donald j haarmann wrote:
"Alan Yates" <alany@ay.com.au
What is the definition of "pyrolant"?
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Pyrolant?
Pyro what?-
1 pyroaurite
2 pyroballogy
3 pyrobelonite
4 pyrobitumen
5 pyroborate
6 pyrocephalus rubinus
7 pyroceram
8 pyrochlore
9 pyrochlorite
10 pyrochorite
11 pyroclastic
12 pyrocystis noctiluca
13 pyroemerald
14 pyroetinite
15 pyrogallol
16 pyrogen
17 pyrogenetic
18 pyrogenous
19 pyrogentic
20 pyrognostics
21 pyrography
22 pyrolaty
25 pyroligneous acid
26 pyroligneous alcohol
27 pyrolith
28 pyrolusite
29 pyrolysis
30 pyromancy
31 pyromeride
32 pyrometer
33 pyromorphite
34 pyromucic aldehyde
35 pyron
36 pyronema confluens
37 pyronia
38 pyrope
39 pyrophane
40 pyrophanite
41 pyrophore
42 pyrophoric
43 pyrophosphoric acid
44 pyrophosphorite
45 pyrophyllite
46 pyrophysalite
47 pyropissite!
48 pyroretin
49 pyrosclerite
50 pyrosis
51 pyrosmalite
52 pyrosoma elegans
53 pyrosomida
54 pyrostegia venusta
55 pyrostibite
56 pyrostilpmite
57 pyrosulfuryl chloride
58 pyrosulphuric acid
59 pyrotheria
60 pyroxene
61 pyroxmangite
62 pyroxylin
Alan,
Did you see the reply a few days ago from Kansas? He posted a link to
the abstract of a Wiley book which contained a little info on Pyrolants.
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/101520415/ABSTRACT
It appears that the term Pyrolant refers to a class of formulas which
contain both magnesium and a flouropolymer oxidizer such as Teflon
and/or Viton. From what it says there they're used in flares, tracers,
igniters, solid rocket propellents, incendiary devices, and so on.
Actually this seems very reminiscent of one of the old Ellern military
formulas for an infrared flare comp.
Leo
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| Kansas |
| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:15 pm |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:34:12 GMT, Alan Yates <alany@ay.com.au> wrote:
Quote: What is the definition of "pyrolant"?
I have access to an airospace technical library and a very
understanding librarian, as part of my libratory work. I worked my
through many of the articles for which only abstract were published on
the web without finding a concrete definition of a pyrolant. While not
concrete, from my survey of literature I have found this to be the
definition of a pyrolant
A metal powder based fuel. |
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| Dick Nasty |
| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:14 pm |
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"Kansas" <deay@comp.net> wrote in message
news:qrb5011us24e2hv8ll80oracri0c8653ti@4ax.com...
Quote: On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:34:12 GMT, Alan Yates <alany@ay.com.au> wrote:
What is the definition of "pyrolant"?
I have access to an airospace technical library and a very
understanding librarian, as part of my libratory work. I worked my
through many of the articles for which only abstract were published on
the web without finding a concrete definition of a pyrolant. While not
concrete, from my survey of literature I have found this to be the
definition of a pyrolant
A metal powder based fuel.
I've found it to refer to a composition of oxidizer and metal fuel. It
seems to be basically synonymous with what we would call the various flash
comps. |
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| PyroLeo |
| Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:13 am |
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Yes the term pyrolant seems to be pretty vague and apparently not used very
widely either, given the low number of search results. Besides the
Magnesium/Teflon/Viton system, I noticed Zirconium/Barium Chromate and
Titanium/Carbon systems as well as others which were all referred to as
pyrolants.
Another hit that came up was for an abstract of Kosanke's JOP #10 in which the
article "Combustion of Ti/C Pyrolants" appears. Surely the gods of
pyrotechnics wouldn't throw jargon like that around without knowing it's
meaning, would they? Why not ask them?
One would think their Magnum Opus "Illustrated Dictionary Of Pyrotechnics",
must surely contain a definition of this term? If anyone actually spent money
on that, can you field this question? Inquiring minds want to know!
Leo
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Kansas deay@comp.net wrote:
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:34:12 GMT, Alan Yates <alany@ay.com.au> wrote:
Quote: What is the definition of "pyrolant"?
I have access to an airospace technical library and a very
understanding librarian, as part of my libratory work. I worked my
through many of the articles for which only abstract were published on
the web without finding a concrete definition of a pyrolant. While not
concrete, from my survey of literature I have found this to be the
definition of a pyrolant
A metal powder based fuel.
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| Kansas |
| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:52 pm |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:34:12 GMT, Alan Yates <alany@ay.com.au> wrote:
What is a "pyrolant" good for? Can this fuel be used in pyrotechnics!
Maybe the MTV Mg Teflon Viton would work as a fountain fuel using a
refractory lined steel case with the proper annulus and large chunks
of Ti. With the comments in literature of Ram Jets in association with
pyrolants, hyper sonic fountains may not be out of the question.
Note buried and sandbagged, shot from a long ways away seems prudent
as when something goes wrong being anywhere near by looks like it
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