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Doug White

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:20 pm

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I've been using Hornady "One Shot" lube for a few years, but have over a
thousand 308 cases to resize and my current supply won't do half of that.
It works reasonably well, but if I'm going to buy more lube, I thought
I'd check in & see if anyone has soemthign they think is better.

My basic criteria are:

1) Must be a spray. I have case racks that allow me to lube 50 cases at
a time. Enough spray gets into the neck that I don't have to do
anything special for the necks.

2) SLICK! My experience has been that the slicker the stuff is, the more
uniform the cases come out. The One Shot is OK, but if you don't get a
good uniform coating, some cases take a bit more ooomph than others. A
lube that is more forgiving would be nice.

3) Fast drying. The One Shot takes 5-10 minutes to dry. Faster would be
better. The original One Shot left a whitish waxy film that was dry to
the touch. They changed the formula (about 10 years ago?) and it stays
greasy feeling, even after the solvent is gone.

4) Low residue. The One Shot builds up (slowly) on the dies, and needs
to be cleaned up from time to time. A thinner lube (but just as slick,
or slicker) would be better.

5) Easy clean up. I tumble my cases after sizing, using old media. The
One Shot washes off my hands pretty easily. I've used some old RCBS
stuff that wouldn't clean up with soap & water and was a real pain to
work with. Lanolin based stuff like Dillon's is also supposed to be
pretty easy to clean up.

So, what are folks using these days, and what do you recommend? It would
be great to hear from folks who've tried a few and can provide some real
comparative data.

Thanks!

Doug White

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GLC1173

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:39 am

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Doug wrote:
#2) SLICK! My experience has been that >the slicker the stuff is, the more
#uniform the cases come out. The One >Shot is OK, but if you don't get a
#good uniform coating, some cases take a >bit more ooomph than others.

Get a - large - old stainless skillet. Spread 100 cases in it at a time,
spray them with OneShot - and then shake the skillet side to side, spray again.
Works perfect.
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Plabovitz

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:39 am

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I always throw clean cases in a sandwich bag when i spray, toss them around for
a few minutes then just throw the mess away...can do 100-150 at a time with a
three second spray and the stuff finds itself in the case neck as well.....I
lik ethe Midway spray lube, Hornady has left me with stuck cases if I don't let
it dry...

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John Bischoff

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:39 am

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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 01:20:00 +0000 (UTC), gwhite@alum.mit.edu (Doug White) wrote:

|I've been using Hornady "One Shot" lube for a few years, but have over a
|thousand 308 cases to resize and my current supply won't do half of that.
|It works reasonably well, but if I'm going to buy more lube, I thought
|I'd check in & see if anyone has soemthign they think is better.
|
|My basic criteria are:
|
|1) Must be a spray. I have case racks that allow me to lube 50 cases at
|a time. Enough spray gets into the neck that I don't have to do
|anything special for the necks.
|
|2) SLICK! My experience has been that the slicker the stuff is, the more
|uniform the cases come out. The One Shot is OK, but if you don't get a
|good uniform coating, some cases take a bit more ooomph than others. A
|lube that is more forgiving would be nice.
|
|3) Fast drying. The One Shot takes 5-10 minutes to dry. Faster would be
|better. The original One Shot left a whitish waxy film that was dry to
|the touch. They changed the formula (about 10 years ago?) and it stays
|greasy feeling, even after the solvent is gone.
|
|4) Low residue. The One Shot builds up (slowly) on the dies, and needs
|to be cleaned up from time to time. A thinner lube (but just as slick,
|or slicker) would be better.
|
|5) Easy clean up. I tumble my cases after sizing, using old media. The
|One Shot washes off my hands pretty easily. I've used some old RCBS
|stuff that wouldn't clean up with soap & water and was a real pain to
|work with. Lanolin based stuff like Dillon's is also supposed to be
|pretty easy to clean up.
|
|So, what are folks using these days, and what do you recommend? It would
|be great to hear from folks who've tried a few and can provide some real
|comparative data.
|
|Thanks!
|
|Doug White
|
I've tried the Midway pump-spray and the RCBS pump-spray case lubes.
The Midway version uses alcohol (ethyl, I think) as the vehicle to carry the
lube while the RCBS version seems to use hexane or pentane for the vehicle.
The RCBS stuff evaporates faster (20 seconds seems to do it). I prefer the RCBS
stuff myself. Less than half a bottle (fifty spritzes) of RCBS pump-spray lube
will do your thousand cases.
..
I do not use a rack. I use a half gallon plastic ziplock bag. I throw a big
handful of cases into the bag - 80 or 100 or so - and flop the bag on the
workbench with the open top at the edge of the bench. I give the cases in the
bag two full spritzes, then I flop the bag over on its other side and give the
cases in there another two spritzes. Then I zip the bag shut and massage the bag
and cases to be sure that the lube is evenly distributed over all of them.
..
Then I pour the cases into a good-sized steel bowl to evaporate while I run
another batch thru the bag process. By the time I have finished with the second
bag, the cases from the first bag are ready to run thru the sizer. I've used
this system with several thousand cases from 223 to 30-06 and nary a problem.
The nice thing about it is that there is nearly zero wasted lube, because it all
stays in the bag and sooner or later all the lube from the bottle gets applied
to one case or another. I'm still using the same bag for the last three years.
Apparently enough cases get lube inside the necks to keep the expander happy.
..
Clean up takes a few minutes in the vibratory tumbler using whatever dirty old
media happens to be in it. I put a quarter of a paper towel diced up into two
inch squares in with the media to absorb most of the lube, then throw away the
dirty paper when the brass comes out. Media doesnt wear out, it just gets
dirtier and dirtier. After a very long time I get tired of looking at the nasty
stuff and replace it with new rodent litter from the pet shop (crushed walnut).
I use GoJo hand cleaner or ordinary soap for the hands - no problems.
..
Best regards
John

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J.A.Freeman

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:41 am

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I have been using pump spray bottles of lube way before the One Shot was a
gleam in the eye of a Hornady design engineer. Currently I use this.
http://www.midwayusa.com/rewriteaproduct/204960
I use a 11"x7" by 2" deep Tupperware container I got for 25 cents at a yard
sale. This only has to be done the first time you use a container. Spray the
inside of the container with 3 pumps to cover it and let it dry. Dump in
enough brass to almost cover the bottom so the cases have enough room to
roll over. Then give the brass one pump spray. Shake from side to side and
end to end so the cases roll around. Let sit for 3 minutes so the carrier
evaporates and then load them. One bottle will lube 12,000+ cases.
The lube is not sticky but has a slightly greasy feel and cleans off easy by
running the reloaded ammo for 15-30 minutes in clean corn cob.

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Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:15 am

#I've been using Hornady "One Shot" lube for a few years, but have over
a
#thousand 308 cases to resize and my current supply won't do half of
that.

You're using waaaaay too much. Lay a bunch in a shoebox lid, give 'em
all a quick shot, roll 'em over and shoot 'em again, just enough to get
'em wet to the touch. And you can size 'em wet; no need to let 'em
dry.

The can I've got has done 2000 .308 cases, 1750 .223 cases, and 2800
..44 mag cases, and I still have more than half a can left...

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Christopher Morton

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:47 am

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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 08:15:58 +0000 (UTC), Mike@SalmonRiverDesign.com
wrote:

##I've been using Hornady "One Shot" lube for a few years, but have over
#a
##thousand 308 cases to resize and my current supply won't do half of
#that.
#
#You're using waaaaay too much. Lay a bunch in a shoebox lid, give 'em
#all a quick shot, roll 'em over and shoot 'em again, just enough to get
#'em wet to the touch. And you can size 'em wet; no need to let 'em
#dry.
#
#The can I've got has done 2000 .308 cases, 1750 .223 cases, and 2800
#.44 mag cases, and I still have more than half a can left...

I used to use that stuff when it first came out. It was really
handy... except when there were problems with it and I got stuck
cases. I think there were some problems with the original
formulation.

I eventually gave up on it and went back to a lube pad.

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yodar

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:55 pm

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Doug White wrote:

Quote:

...
Dillon's spray case lube in a spritzer bottle (successfully imitated by

Midway) is an alcohol suspension of lanoline that can be made yerself
using Lee Caselube from the tube diluted with alcohol. Bothe these
products dry quickly, leave such a minor amount of "leavins" that I dont
hafta clean afterloading

Richard Lee Modern reloading descrivbes how to do this in his book, not
handy right now

Yodar

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Larry Fishel

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:56 pm

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I tried one of the aerosol sprays years ago and although it worked
fine, it was too messy, didn't last and I wasn't thrilled about
breathing the vapors. Since then I've lubed many thousands of cases
with half a bottle of the dillon pump spray. I just toss a bunch in a
cardboard box that I'm not going to use any more and give it a few
pumps while bouncing them around. I'm sure it only gets lube inside
SOME of the necks, but it's enough.

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GLC1173

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:42 am

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Larry wrote:
#I tried one of the aerosol sprays years >ago and although it worked
#fine, it was too messy, didn't last and I >wasn't thrilled about
#breathing the vapors.

Avoid the vapors and mess by spraying the cases outdoors; I use an old large
skillet to put 100 cases in, spray, rattle cases around, spray.
After sizing, put cases in an old clean container, cover with lacquer
thinner for a couple minutes, strain through old colander, let dry - and
they're as clean as new.
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