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| Ray Lein... |
 Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:32 pm |
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What do you think about the Makarov 9x18 mm pistol as a CCW gun
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| Bluehawk99... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:29 pm |
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Inexpensive, rugged and reliable...a real workhorse! Mine has been
rebarelled to .380 and is very accurate with no reliability problems.
Yes it's big and heavy for the caliber but I like that and the
magazine release problem is simple to solve...put a split "O" ring on
it...like the ones you put your keys on!
I've never felt "undergunned" with a good .380 round!
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| Robert Scott... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:26 pm |
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"Ray Lein" <RHLein at (no spam) webtv.net> wrote in message
news:hcl9br$31g$1 at (no spam) news.albasani.net...
# What do you think about the Makarov 9x18 mm pistol as a CCW gun
I wouldn't feel undergunned...
I have two of them; a Russian commercial version (Baikal) in .380 and an
East German military surplus version in 9x18. They are both extremely
reliable with surplus ammo, modern factory ammo, and reloads with plated
lead bullets. The simple blowback design allows for a rigidly-mounted
barrel and pretty decent accuracy. The sites are pretty fine for defense
use, but practice makes perfect, or you could replace them....
There are certainly lighter, slimmer, and/or more powerful pistols, but the
Maks are a tremendous value (at least they used to be; I don't know what
they cost these days).
Good shooting,
desmobob
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| Frank S... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:15 am |
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The PA63 is basicly a Walter PPK in size which is great for concealing.
Also, I find 9X18 easier to get then 380's
Frank
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| Tony W... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:49 pm |
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I had a Russian Mak in .380 and I used to carry it when I felt my
M1911a1 as a but much.
I also loaded it with MagSafe rounds. The MagSafe company folded after
the owner passed away and the later MagSafe rounds made but the new
company weren't as good. I gave the Mak to my daughter and she
mistakenly fired the MagSafe rounds while we were target shooting. Pop
3 bucks, pop 3 bucks...
Now we can't find .380 anywhere and the only 90 grain bullets I can find
for reloading are Barnes solid copper slugs.
Tony
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| Jim Yanik... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:49 pm |
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"Frank S" <items4sale at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:hcsnd2$6vm$1 at (no spam) news.albasani.net:
# The PA63 is basicly a Walter PPK in size which is great for concealing.
# Also, I find 9X18 easier to get then 380's
# Frank
actually,it's more like a Walther PP than a PPK.
PPK being "Police Pistol KURZ",meaning -short-,whereas the PA-63 is the
regular barrel length of the PP,from which it was copied.
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Jim Yanik
jyanik
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| David R.Birch... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:15 pm |
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Frank S wrote:
# The PA63 is basicly a Walter PPK in size which is great for concealing.
# Also, I find 9X18 easier to get then 380's
# Frank
The FEG PA63 is similar in size to the Walther PP, not the PPK. The
FEG R61 is similar in size to the PPK.
David
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| Frank S... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:15 pm |
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Oops, thats what I meant. It is not a bad shooting pistol except for the
sights.
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| Blumenthal, Uri... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:29 am |
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I hated Makarov for its sharp recoil and poor (IMHO) ergonomics.
On 11/3/09 21:26 , in article hcqont$aj7$1 at (no spam) news.albasani.net, "Robert
Scott" <desmobob at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
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Uri
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:42 pm |
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On Nov 4, 6:49 pm, Tony W <technoj... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
# I had a Russian Mak in .380 and I used to carry it when I felt my
# M1911a1 as a but much.
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# I also loaded it with MagSafe rounds. The MagSafe company folded after
# the owner passed away and the later MagSafe rounds made but the new
# company weren't as good. I gave the Mak to my daughter and she
# mistakenly fired the MagSafe rounds while we were target shooting. Pop
# 3 bucks, pop 3 bucks...
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# Now we can't find .380 anywhere and the only 90 grain bullets I can find
# for reloading are Barnes solid copper slugs.
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# Tony
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Cast bullets solve that problem, at least for practice. May have to
do some polishing internally to feed if the gun is rough.
Stan
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| RBnDFW... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:42 pm |
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Blumenthal, Uri wrote:
# I hated Makarov for its sharp recoil and poor (IMHO) ergonomics.
I had one for a few days. Seemed overlarge for the caliber, heavier than
it needed to be, and the grip didn't fit my hand very well. Sold it.
Still have a couple of nice magazines if anyone wants to swap.
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| Misifus... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:42 pm |
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Blumenthal, Uri wrote:
# I hated Makarov for its sharp recoil and poor (IMHO) ergonomics.
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# On 11/3/09 21:26 , in article hcqont$aj7$1 at (no spam) news.albasani.net, "Robert
# Scott" <desmobob at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
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I found that a set of Pearse grips tamed the sharp recoil, and after
that, the Mak was quite useful.
-Raf
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| Bluehawk99... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:17 am |
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Although the PA63 is chambered in 9mm Mak it's no Makarov by any
stretch of the imagination...two different pistols!!!!
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| C & E... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:56 pm |
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"Bluehawk99" <bluehawk99 at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
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# Although the PA63 is chambered in 9mm Mak it's no Makarov by any
# stretch of the imagination...two different pistols!!!!
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I thought my memory was going south - well, never mind that - when I read
PA63 in that post. I was thinking, "How did a gun the size and shape of a
Browning Hi-Power get into this thread?" Anyway, with a trigger job the
PA63 has served me well with no stovepipes or jams.
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