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| Len McDougall, Outdoor Writer... |
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| James D. Andrews... |
| Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:38 pm |
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"Len McDougall, Outdoor Writer" <LMwriter1 at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1093883b-f97c-46b1-949e-263665bf43e8 at (no spam) v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
Quote: http://www.modernsurvival.net/art10pre.cfm
Thanks for letting us know about your new article, Len.
How to cook fiddleheads and use them as shelter.
Did they pay you for this piece?
As for your little fern tent - it won't hold up to weather (unless you've
got a shed roof hiding beneath the ferns). Once detached from soil, ferns
aren't very tough. Also, you might have a hard time finding enough ferns in
winter to keep the snow off. |
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| maguahiker at (no spam) gmail.com... |
| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:07 pm |
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On Sep 3, 2:33 am, "Len McDougall, Outdoor Writer"
<LMwrit... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: http://www.modernsurvival.net/art10pre.cfm
Gee, and I thought the only experienced mag Len wrote for was Butt
Buddies. |
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| pmh... |
| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:42 pm |
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On Sep 3, 10:38 pm, "James D. Andrews" <jamesdandr... at (no spam) att.net> wrote:
Quote: "Len McDougall, Outdoor Writer" <LMwrit... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1093883b-f97c-46b1-949e-263665bf43e8 at (no spam) v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
http://www.modernsurvival.net/art10pre.cfm
Thanks for letting us know about your new article, Len.
How to cook fiddleheads ....Also, you might have a hard time finding enough ferns in
winter to keep the snow off.
And the edibility time window of the bracken fern is as narrow or
narrower than its more well-known cousin, the "true" fiddlehead.
Furthermore, in northern Maine which is widely known for its
fiddleheads, the bracken fern grows less densely and is therefore much
more labor intensive as a food source even at the height of its
pickability season. A wonderful local, natural delicacy the bracken
fern most decidedly is; as a reliable survival resource it is quite
problematic.
PMH |
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| James D. Andrews... |
| Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:38 pm |
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"pmh" <pmhilton at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Sep 3, 10:38 pm, "James D. Andrews" <jamesdandr... at (no spam) att.net> wrote:
Quote: "Len McDougall, Outdoor Writer" <LMwrit... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in
messagenews:1093883b-f97c-46b1-949e-263665bf43e8 at (no spam) v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
http://www.modernsurvival.net/art10pre.cfm
Thanks for letting us know about your new article, Len.
How to cook fiddleheads ....Also, you might have a hard time finding
enough ferns in
winter to keep the snow off.
And the edibility time window of the bracken fern is as narrow or
narrower than its more well-known cousin, the "true" fiddlehead.
Furthermore, in northern Maine which is widely known for its
fiddleheads, the bracken fern grows less densely and is therefore much
more labor intensive as a food source even at the height of its
pickability season. A wonderful local, natural delicacy the bracken
fern most decidedly is; as a reliable survival resource it is quite
problematic.
PMH
Agreed. Our fiddlehead searches were considered an annual event, not an
everyday scrounging, and required half a dozen people to get enough for
everyone.
And to be honest, personally, I didn't care for them. I'd rather eat brussel
sprouts. But I'd sure love to be back in the ME forest. |
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| Stormin Mormon... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:29 pm |
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That's not nice. Len was kind enough to send me a copy of
one of his books, for review. Me, well, I'm not going to
attack the man. I may review his book, gently and honestly.
But, not attacks or slander.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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On Sep 3, 2:33 am, "Len McDougall, Outdoor Writer"
<LMwrit... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: http://www.modernsurvival.net/art10pre.cfm
Gee, and I thought the only experienced mag Len wrote for
was Butt
Buddies. |
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| Len McDougall, Outdoor Writer... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:09 pm |
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On Sep 3, 9:38 pm, "James D. Andrews" <jamesdandr... at (no spam) att.net> wrote:
Quote: "LenMcDougall, Outdoor Writer" <LMwrit... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1093883b-f97c-46b1-949e-263665bf43e8 at (no spam) v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
http://www.modernsurvival.net/art10pre.cfm
Thanks for letting us know about your new article,Len.
How to cook fiddleheads and use them as shelter.
Did they pay you for this piece?
As for your little fern tent - it won't hold up to weather (unless you've
got a shed roof hiding beneath the ferns). Once detached from soil, ferns
aren't very tough. Also, you might have a hard time finding enough ferns in
winter to keep the snow off.
You're incorrect on both counts. The bracken fern shelter in fact
holds up for years - 10+ years - and the ones I've built with paying
survival students dot the countryside. I've never seen less than 200
inches of snowfall here on Upper Michigan's Whitefish Point (where the
giant SS Edmund Fitzgerald was making for when she went down with all
hands), and last winter we got 22+ feet - twice the snowfall of Nome,
Alaska. Brackens don't disappear in winter, they get covered up by
snow, and until the hardpack becomes deep enough to do that, you can
gather enough to cover a shelter. My "little fern tent" has been
serving me well for better than 40 years, in all weather, in all
seasons. Google my name. Yes, I did get paid for the article;
writing, guiding, and teaching survival classes professionally have
been my only sources of income for almost 20 years, and I've been
writing professionally (i.e., paid) since 1982. |
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| Len McDougall, Outdoor Writer... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:22 pm |
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On Sep 4, 6:42 pm, pmh <pmhil... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Quote: On Sep 3, 10:38 pm, "James D. Andrews" <jamesdandr... at (no spam) att.net> wrote:
"LenMcDougall, Outdoor Writer" <LMwrit... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1093883b-f97c-46b1-949e-263665bf43e8 at (no spam) v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
http://www.modernsurvival.net/art10pre.cfm
Thanks for letting us know about your new article,Len.
How to cook fiddleheads ....Also, you might have a hard time finding enough ferns in
winter to keep the snow off.
And the edibility time window of thebrackenfern is as narrow or
narrower than its more well-known cousin, the "true" fiddlehead.
Furthermore, in northern Maine which is widely known for its
fiddleheads, thebrackenfern grows less densely and is therefore much
more labor intensive as a food source even at the height of its
pickability season. A wonderful local, natural delicacy thebracken
fern most decidedly is; as a reliable survival resource it is quite
problematic.
PMH
Brackens - and other edible ferns - grow from Alaska to Mexico, and
they're available from snowmelt to late summer. I'm sorry you can't
find them. Also, there is no "true: fiddlehead, not any more than
there is a true seed, or a true sprout - fiddlehead is a generic term
for the shape of a sprouting fern, and it applies to all ferns. Try
reading up on how ancient Indian tribes used brackens; you might be
enlightened. Maybe you should take a survival class - not mine,
though. I've turned away 5 applicants this year for less snottiness
than you've exhibited. |
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| Len McDougall, Outdoor Writer... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:43 pm |
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On Oct 16, 9:29 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61**spambloc... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: That's not nice.Lenwas kind enough to send me a copy of
one of his books, for review. Me, well, I'm not going to
attack the man. I may review his book, gently and honestly.
But, not attacks or slander.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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maguahi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8b33e9a7-bd80-4f79-ad6f-803004c25432 at (no spam) l34g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 3, 2:33 am, "LenMcDougall, Outdoor Writer"<LMwrit... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.modernsurvival.net/art10pre.cfm
Gee, and I thought the only experienced magLenwrote for
was Butt
Buddies.
Thank you Christopher; that was surprisingly pleasant. I do hope you
enjoy the Field & Stream Wilderness Survival Handbook I sent you - but
I pray you never have actual need of it. The new and expanded 2nd
Edition of Practical Outdoor Survival is even more current, more
comprehensive, and has a lot more photos. I also just signed a
contract with Skyhorse Publishing to write "The Ultimate Survival
Guide," which encompasses everything from surviving natural disasters
and loss of utilities in an urban environment to escaping to a forest,
mountain, or desert and forging a homestead (re: my book, The Log
Cabin: An Adventure). Or maybe one of my above detractors will send
you a survival manual they've had published through a legitimate house
- right guys? Surely these self-proclaimed wilderness experts have
penned a book or two to share with those of us they feel could benefit
from their vast knowledge of - what - 2-3 days a year spent pheasant
hunting and bragging? |
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| wettlesheim... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:15 pm |
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On Nov 1, 10:22 pm, "Len McDougall, Outdoor Writer"
<LMwrit... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On Sep 4, 6:42 pm, pmh <pmhil... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
On Sep 3, 10:38 pm, "James D. Andrews" <jamesdandr... at (no spam) att.net> wrote:
"LenMcDougall, Outdoor Writer" <LMwrit... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1093883b-f97c-46b1-949e-263665bf43e8 at (no spam) v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
http://www.modernsurvival.net/art10pre.cfm
Thanks for letting us know about your new article,Len.
How to cook fiddleheads ....Also, you might have a hard time finding enough ferns in
winter to keep the snow off.
And the edibility time window of thebrackenfern is as narrow or
narrower than its more well-known cousin, the "true" fiddlehead.
Furthermore, in northern Maine which is widely known for its
fiddleheads, thebrackenfern grows less densely and is therefore much
more labor intensive as a food source even at the height of its
pickability season. A wonderful local, natural delicacy thebracken
fern most decidedly is; as a reliable survival resource it is quite
problematic.
PMH
Brackens - and other edible ferns - grow from Alaska to Mexico, and
they're available from snowmelt to late summer. I'm sorry you can't
find them. Also, there is no "true: fiddlehead, not any more than
there is a true seed, or a true sprout - fiddlehead is a generic term
for the shape of a sprouting fern, and it applies to all ferns. Try
reading up on how ancient Indian tribes used brackens; you might be
enlightened. Maybe you should take a survival class - not mine,
though. I've turned away 5 applicants this year for less snottiness
than you've exhibited.
Liar!! |
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| wettlesheim... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:18 pm |
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On Nov 1, 10:09 pm, "Len McDougall, Outdoor Writer"
<LMwrit... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On Sep 3, 9:38 pm, "James D. Andrews" <jamesdandr... at (no spam) att.net> wrote:
"LenMcDougall, Outdoor Writer" <LMwrit... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1093883b-f97c-46b1-949e-263665bf43e8 at (no spam) v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
http://www.modernsurvival.net/art10pre.cfm
Thanks for letting us know about your new article,Len.
How to cook fiddleheads and use them as shelter.
Did they pay you for this piece?
As for your little fern tent - it won't hold up to weather (unless you've
got a shed roof hiding beneath the ferns). Once detached from soil, ferns
aren't very tough. Also, you might have a hard time finding enough ferns in
winter to keep the snow off.
You're incorrect on both counts. The bracken fern shelter in fact
holds up for years - 10+ years - and the ones I've built with paying
survival students dot the countryside. I've never seen less than 200
inches of snowfall here on Upper Michigan's Whitefish Point (where the
giant SS Edmund Fitzgerald was making for when she went down with all
hands), and last winter we got 22+ feet - twice the snowfall of Nome,
Alaska. Brackens don't disappear in winter, they get covered up by
snow, and until the hardpack becomes deep enough to do that, you can
gather enough to cover a shelter. My "little fern tent" has been
serving me well for better than 40 years, in all weather, in all
seasons. Google my name. Yes, I did get paid for the article;
writing, guiding, and teaching survival classes professionally have
been my only sources of income for almost 20 years, and I've been
writing professionally (i.e., paid) since 1982.
AND wrote bogus book reviews on amazon.com in your girlfriend's name. |
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