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| Bradley Robertson... |
 Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:39 am |
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Caption for photo at this link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8329032.stm
"The camera shows a group of Afghan soldiers standing on a cold dusty
plain, listening to an American instructor. He is showing them how to
use a new American rifle."
What is this new "American rife" shown in the photo? The press always
have a hard time getting the facts right.
The article goes on to state:
"In many Afghan units, the old AK47s are being thrown away now. The new
Afghan army will have new weapons: refurbished M16s.
The new weapons may be more powerful. In a firefight, they may give
Afghan troops an edge over insurgents who use Soviet-era AKs.
But the new rifles are also unfamiliar. They require more maintenance,
more care."
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| RBnDFW... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:40 am |
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# But the new rifles are also unfamiliar. They require more maintenance,
# more care."
Sounds like a bad idea. While we don't really want our allies using
Soviet weapons, they may be the best choice for the Afghan army.
OTOH I suppose there are some new NATO nations turning out AKs today.
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| Larry Fishel... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:40 am |
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It's an M-16. It seems clear that they mean it's new to the Afghans if
that's what you're asking, especially since they mention them being
refubished.
I'm not sure about the comment on them being more powerful. I'd give
the edge to the M-16 on a few points, but power? No significant
difference.
The comment about them needing more maintenance is probably fair.
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| Bradley Robertson... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:20 am |
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Larry Fishel wrote:
# It's an M-16.
Part of humor/horror? of my original post was the linked picture showed
the trainer and trainees with AK 47s, and thus my comment about the
press getting facts right. The benefit of the net news is it can be
corrected, unlike the paper printed press.
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| Louis Boyd... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:39 am |
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RBnDFW wrote:
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# # But the new rifles are also unfamiliar. They require more maintenance,
# # more care."
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# Sounds like a bad idea. While we don't really want our allies using
# Soviet weapons, they may be the best choice for the Afghan army.
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# OTOH I suppose there are some new NATO nations turning out AKs today.
Yes, and some old NATO nations too including the USA.
http://www.ak-47.us/USmade.php
Does anyone but me think that giving or selling arms and arms technology
to other countries is insanity? History PROVES that allies and enemies
swap rolls frequently.
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| Larry Fishel... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:39 am |
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On Oct 30, 9:20 am, Bradley Robertson <b... at (no spam) whidbey.com> wrote:
# Larry Fishel wrote:
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# # It's an M-16.
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# Part of humor/horror? of my original post was the linked picture showed
# the trainer and trainees with AK 47s
Ah... By the time I saw it everyone had M-16's. Maybe you imagined
it... :)
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| R.L. Horn... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:40 pm |
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:39:10 +0000 (UTC), Larry Fishel <ldfishel at (no spam) yahoo.com>
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## Part of humor/horror? of my original post was the linked picture showed
## the trainer and trainees with AK 47s
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# Ah... By the time I saw it everyone had M-16's. Maybe you imagined
# it... :)
They had some flavor of Kalashnakovs when I looked as well. Mass
hallucination perhaps.
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| Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:40 pm |
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On Oct 31, 7:39 am, Louis Boyd <b... at (no spam) apt0.sao.arizona.edu> wrote:
# Does anyone but me think that giving or selling arms and arms technology
# to other countries is insanity?
It worked out pretty well in WWII, when we gave/sold arms to England,
the Soviets, etc. to use against the Axis.
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| Misifus... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:32 pm |
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Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley wrote:
# On Oct 31, 7:39 am, Louis Boyd <b... at (no spam) apt0.sao.arizona.edu> wrote:
# # Does anyone but me think that giving or selling arms and arms technology
# # to other countries is insanity?
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# It worked out pretty well in WWII, when we gave/sold arms to England,
# the Soviets, etc. to use against the Axis.
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Which left the Soviets well-equipped to take over Eastern Europe by
force immediately following the conclusion of hostilities against the
Axis. I think that was part of Mr. Boyd's point.
-Raf
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Rafael Seibert
Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rafiii
home: http://www.rafandsioux.com
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