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GarageWoodworks...
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:57 pm
Guest
I assembled my latest project (a blanket chest) yesturday and I
contemplated prefinishing it before glue-up. This should make glue
clean up a lot easier. I can see two potential problems with this: 1)
finish will weaken any tenon shoulder glue adhesion (finish
surrounding a mortise). 2) the act of clamping can scratch the
preapplied finish. Take the poll.

http://garagewoodworks.com/gw_blog/
 
Tom Veatch...
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:14 pm
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I'll pretty much echo Mark & Juanita's response.

Where it makes sense and is possible, I mask off and finish prior to
glue up.

Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS
USA
 
Larry Jaques...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:30 pm
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On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:49:08 -0700, the infamous Mark & Juanita
<nospam at (no spam) hadenough.com> scrawled the following:

Quote:
GarageWoodworks wrote:

I assembled my latest project (a blanket chest) yesturday and I
contemplated prefinishing it before glue-up. This should make glue
clean up a lot easier. I can see two potential problems with this: 1)
finish will weaken any tenon shoulder glue adhesion (finish
surrounding a mortise). 2) the act of clamping can scratch the
preapplied finish. Take the poll.

http://garagewoodworks.com/gw_blog/

I pre-finish my projects. Before applying the finish, I mask off all
joints and glue-up areas. I don't worry about the shoulder joint where the
glue would be end-grain to side grain, just the mortises and tenons
themselves. I don't do this with dovetailed drawers, but do pre-scrape the
inside in order to make applying the finish easier. I also pre-finish the
drawer bottoms -- it keeps glue from sticking to them.

What, just one hand-rubbed coat of Waterlox, or something thicker?
Anything should make a big difference with glue.

P.S: You finish the inside of drawers?

--
"Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free
than Christianity has made them good." --H. L. Mencken
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Larry Jaques...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:32 pm
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On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:33:18 -0500, the infamous "Leon"
<lcb11211 at (no spam) swbell.dotnet> scrawled the following:

Quote:

"GarageWoodworks" <bgrella at (no spam) garagewoodworks.com> wrote in message
news:5eb89420-37fd-47bb-9b8f-83c7a0570ebf at (no spam) e11g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
I assembled my latest project (a blanket chest) yesturday and I
contemplated prefinishing it before glue-up. This should make glue
clean up a lot easier. I can see two potential problems with this: 1)
finish will weaken any tenon shoulder glue adhesion (finish
surrounding a mortise). 2) the act of clamping can scratch the
preapplied finish. Take the poll.

http://garagewoodworks.com/gw_blog/


I often sand and prestain certain parts before assembly, in particular
cabinet door panels. With wood movement and seasonal shrinkage door panels
can reveal unstained areas.

Ohmigod! I came back too soon. You guys are still using the 'S'
word!

Shameful. Just shameful. I bet I'll see the 'P' word soon, too.

--
"Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free
than Christianity has made them good." --H. L. Mencken
---
 
Mark & Juanita...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:56 pm
Guest
Larry Jaques wrote:

Quote:
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:49:08 -0700, the infamous Mark & Juanita
nospam at (no spam) hadenough.com> scrawled the following:

GarageWoodworks wrote:

I assembled my latest project (a blanket chest) yesturday and I
contemplated prefinishing it before glue-up. This should make glue
clean up a lot easier. I can see two potential problems with this: 1)
finish will weaken any tenon shoulder glue adhesion (finish
surrounding a mortise). 2) the act of clamping can scratch the
preapplied finish. Take the poll.

http://garagewoodworks.com/gw_blog/

I pre-finish my projects. Before applying the finish, I mask off all
joints and glue-up areas. I don't worry about the shoulder joint where
the glue would be end-grain to side grain, just the mortises and tenons
themselves. I don't do this with dovetailed drawers, but do pre-scrape
the
inside in order to make applying the finish easier. I also pre-finish the
drawer bottoms -- it keeps glue from sticking to them.

What, just one hand-rubbed coat of Waterlox, or something thicker?
Anything should make a big difference with glue.


I usually use an oil-based finish to pop grain and then top-coat with
wipe-on poly followed by two coats of wax -- same finish schedule as the
rest of the project. Note -- that said wipe-on poly, not the thick
plasticy-looking stuff, that IIRC, you had little use for. I've found
Watco wipe-on to provide a good durable top coat that doesn't have that
plastic appearance.

Quote:
P.S: You finish the inside of drawers?


Umm, yeah, doesn't everybody?




--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham
 
Mark & Juanita...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:57 pm
Guest
Larry Jaques wrote:

Quote:
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:33:18 -0500, the infamous "Leon"
lcb11211 at (no spam) swbell.dotnet> scrawled the following:


"GarageWoodworks" <bgrella at (no spam) garagewoodworks.com> wrote in message
news:5eb89420-37fd-47bb-9b8f-83c7a0570ebf at (no spam) e11g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
I assembled my latest project (a blanket chest) yesturday and I
contemplated prefinishing it before glue-up. This should make glue
clean up a lot easier. I can see two potential problems with this: 1)
finish will weaken any tenon shoulder glue adhesion (finish
surrounding a mortise). 2) the act of clamping can scratch the
preapplied finish. Take the poll.

http://garagewoodworks.com/gw_blog/


I often sand and prestain certain parts before assembly, in particular
cabinet door panels. With wood movement and seasonal shrinkage door
panels can reveal unstained areas.

Ohmigod! I came back too soon. You guys are still using the 'S'
word!

Shameful. Just shameful. I bet I'll see the 'P' word soon, too.


Then don't look at the response to your previous response to one of my
postings.

--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham
 
jo4hn...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:47 pm
Guest
Larry Jaques wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:33:18 -0500, the infamous "Leon"
lcb11211 at (no spam) swbell.dotnet> scrawled the following:

"GarageWoodworks" <bgrella at (no spam) garagewoodworks.com> wrote in message
news:5eb89420-37fd-47bb-9b8f-83c7a0570ebf at (no spam) e11g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
I assembled my latest project (a blanket chest) yesturday and I
contemplated prefinishing it before glue-up. This should make glue
clean up a lot easier. I can see two potential problems with this: 1)
finish will weaken any tenon shoulder glue adhesion (finish
surrounding a mortise). 2) the act of clamping can scratch the
preapplied finish. Take the poll.

http://garagewoodworks.com/gw_blog/

I often sand and prestain certain parts before assembly, in particular
cabinet door panels. With wood movement and seasonal shrinkage door panels
can reveal unstained areas.

Ohmigod! I came back too soon. You guys are still using the 'S'
word!

Shameful. Just shameful. I bet I'll see the 'P' word soon, too.

Now that was a memory flogger. IIRC your favorite finish word was

"polyurinestain". ?
time traveler,
jo4hn
 
 
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