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rms...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:20 am
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I'm considering a marathon-length snowshoe race this winter, any suggestions
on footwear. I've only done ~hour-long races the last couple years, so
cold/wet feet wasn't an issue, and I wore at most thin cycling booties over
running shoes. Would the kahtoola flight boot be a smart choice, or are
there good lightweight alternatives (each flightboot weighs 22oz, pretty
heavy)? These booties looked interesting
http://www.zombierunner.com/store/categories/winter_running/snowshoes_and_poles/product2049.html

rms
 
Dot...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:57 pm
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rms wrote:
Quote:
I'm considering a marathon-length snowshoe race this winter, any suggestions
on footwear. I've only done ~hour-long races the last couple years, so
cold/wet feet wasn't an issue, and I wore at most thin cycling booties over
running shoes. Would the kahtoola flight boot be a smart choice, or are
there good lightweight alternatives (each flightboot weighs 22oz, pretty
heavy)? These booties looked interesting
http://www.zombierunner.com/store/categories/winter_running/snowshoes_and_poles/product2049.html

rms



I've never tried any of the Kahtoola stuff since it's so heavy - plus I
have so much trouble getting regular running shoes to fit, I haven't
ventured to attempt the flightboot system. If it worked and were
lighter, that would be sweet, since you wouldn't have bindings around
toes, iirc.

I started with cycling overbooties (about 3mm, Sidekick brand, I think).
As they started deteriorating with lots of wear, I moved on the to
Crescent Moon overbooties pictured. They're about 5mm and warmer -
almost too warm for most temps here. I also wear them under various
traction devices when it's subzero.

My feet tend not to sweat too much, but I'm not sure how the CM would be
for a long race.

They're the same basic design as the neoprene cycling overbooties.

The competitive ss runners just attach their shoes to the snowshoes, so
there's no binding. IIRC, it's easy to do that with Red Feather and they
provide instructions, but Northern Lites is a lot more challenge (almost
impossible?) to do. Dions might be doable that way, since he's an ultra
runner himself and those 'shoes have interchangeable components.

In our short races, I don't think anyone uses any booties, and in the
long races, people tend to go without snowshoes until they get really
desperate. Most people (except me) just depend on keeping feet moving
and having good socks.

Have fun!

Dot

--
"You’ll never hear me say I beat the Peak. I’ve run up there pretty
fast, and that mountain doesn’t care. I’ll never conquer the Peak." -
Matt Carpenter
 
pithydoug...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:13 am
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On Oct 24, 7:57 pm, Dot <AKTrailRun at (no spam) #gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
rms wrote:

The competitive ss runners just attach their shoes to the snowshoes, so
there's no binding. IIRC, it's easy to do that with Red Feather and they
provide instructions, but Northern Lites is a lot more challenge (almost
impossible?) to do. Dions might be doable that way, since he's an ultra
runner himself and those 'shoes have interchangeable components.

I don't snowshoe but I do know that many of the local snow bunnies use
the Dions and really like them. Some of this is because he is local
and very active the snowshoe race scene and loans out his shoes for
some races. Bob trusts his products and is willing to let you use his
stuff in a real race and allow first hand experience. Smart but
confident marketing.

As Dot also noted Bob is a an ultrarunner and factors some of that
into his design. Check out
http://www.dionsnowshoes.com/

-D
 
I2Run...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:59 am
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Doug wrote:
|I don't snowshoe but I do know that many of the local snow bunnies use
|the Dions and really like them. Some of this is because he is local
|and very active the snowshoe race scene and loans out his shoes for
|some races. Bob trusts his products and is willing to let you use his
|stuff in a real race and allow first hand experience. Smart but
|confident marketing.

Now I get it, why Bob has so many snow shoe races in my backyard. Smile
 
Dot...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:20 pm
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I2Run wrote:
Quote:
Doug wrote:
|I don't snowshoe but I do know that many of the local snow bunnies use
|the Dions and really like them. Some of this is because he is local
|and very active the snowshoe race scene and loans out his shoes for
|some races. Bob trusts his products and is willing to let you use his
|stuff in a real race and allow first hand experience. Smart but
|confident marketing.

Now I get it, why Bob has so many snow shoe races in my backyard. :)


Right. He's a good guy too. I had bought my first pair of running

snowshoes (Northern Lites) online without much knowledge. But they were
in the $200 range and everything else I was aware of at the time was
closer to $300.

I had become aware of the Dions before Snowshoe Nationals which were
held up here in 2005. I had e-mailed Bob asking if he'd have a table at
the pre-/post-race area, and he said no, but would have several runners
there in Dions. He told me who to look for (including the 70yo Richard
Busa, iirc). I found them at the race, and they were more than happy to
show me their 'shoes.

Because of the narrowness of some of the trails, I really struggled with
my Northern Lites during the Citizens' race. I bought Dions shortly
after, and have been using them 99% of the time since. I'll use the NL
if I want to pack a trail since they're larger. 2005 is about when we
started building our single track, and Dions are great for that in winter.

Dot

--
"You’ll never hear me say I beat the Peak. I’ve run up there pretty
fast, and that mountain doesn’t care. I’ll never conquer the Peak." -
Matt Carpenter
 
 
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