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Vic Baron...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:26 pm
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Just picked up one of these at a sale and have a few questions.

It's in relatively good condition but I plan on giving it a thorough tuning.
I'm puzzled about the plane iron though - it appears that it has been ground
in a slight arc across the cutting edge as opposed to a 90 degree cut. Is
this normal for these planes? I've seen some planes with a curved blade
before but wondering what effect it will have if I grind straight across.

2nd item - Although it's relatively rust free, the japanning is chipped in
quite a few places. Having it re-japanned ( is that a word??) is not a
viable option as is trying to do that myself. What might be a good
alternative - I was thinking some sort of epoxy paint. Any ideas?

Thanx,

Vic
 
John Grossbohlin...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:33 pm
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"Vic Baron" <vgbaron at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Just picked up one of these at a sale and have a few questions.

It's in relatively good condition but I plan on giving it a thorough
tuning. I'm puzzled about the plane iron though - it appears that it has
been ground in a slight arc across the cutting edge as opposed to a 90
degree cut. Is this normal for these planes? I've seen some planes with a
curved blade before but wondering what effect it will have if I grind
straight across.

2nd item - Although it's relatively rust free, the japanning is chipped
in quite a few places. Having it re-japanned ( is that a word??) is not a
viable option as is trying to do that myself. What might be a good
alternative - I was thinking some sort of epoxy paint. Any ideas?


A slight camber on the iron is useful for correcting out of square
conditions and it keeps the corners from leaving tracks. By slight we're
talking about 1/64" at the ends as compared to the middle.

Personally, for a "user" vs. a decoration I wouldn't bother with fixing the
Japanning... but that's me.

John
 
Vic Baron...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:02 pm
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"John Grossbohlin" <grossboj.nospam at (no spam) nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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"Vic Baron" <vgbaron at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Just picked up one of these at a sale and have a few questions.

It's in relatively good condition but I plan on giving it a thorough
tuning. I'm puzzled about the plane iron though - it appears that it has
been ground in a slight arc across the cutting edge as opposed to a 90
degree cut. Is this normal for these planes? I've seen some planes with
a curved blade before but wondering what effect it will have if I grind
straight across.

2nd item - Although it's relatively rust free, the japanning is chipped
in quite a few places. Having it re-japanned ( is that a word??) is not
a viable option as is trying to do that myself. What might be a good
alternative - I was thinking some sort of epoxy paint. Any ideas?


A slight camber on the iron is useful for correcting out of square
conditions and it keeps the corners from leaving tracks. By slight we're
talking about 1/64" at the ends as compared to the middle.

Personally, for a "user" vs. a decoration I wouldn't bother with fixing
the Japanning... but that's me.

John

Thanx John - Actually I agree about the japanning. I'll just clean it up and
leave it.

The iron isn't rounded at the corners, it's a smooth arc from side to side.
I'll grind it square and round the corners as I usually do. Just wasn't
familiar with this plane and wanted to be sure the arc wasn't a design
function.

Vic
 
J. Clarke...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:52 pm
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Vic Baron wrote:
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"John Grossbohlin" <grossboj.nospam at (no spam) nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
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"Vic Baron" <vgbaron at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Just picked up one of these at a sale and have a few questions.

It's in relatively good condition but I plan on giving it a thorough
tuning. I'm puzzled about the plane iron though - it appears that
it has been ground in a slight arc across the cutting edge as
opposed to a 90 degree cut. Is this normal for these planes? I've
seen some planes with a curved blade before but wondering what
effect it will have if I grind straight across.

2nd item - Although it's relatively rust free, the japanning is
chipped in quite a few places. Having it re-japanned ( is that a
word??) is not a viable option as is trying to do that myself. What
might be a good alternative - I was thinking some sort of epoxy
paint. Any ideas?


A slight camber on the iron is useful for correcting out of square
conditions and it keeps the corners from leaving tracks. By slight
we're talking about 1/64" at the ends as compared to the middle.

Personally, for a "user" vs. a decoration I wouldn't bother with
fixing the Japanning... but that's me.

John

Thanx John - Actually I agree about the japanning. I'll just clean it
up and leave it.

The iron isn't rounded at the corners, it's a smooth arc from side to
side. I'll grind it square and round the corners as I usually do.
Just wasn't familiar with this plane and wanted to be sure the arc
wasn't a design function.

It's called "camber" and it is a design function on a jointer plane. The
idea is that you can adjust an out of square edge by the position of the
plane rather than by having to tilt the plane or adjust the iron.
 
diggerop...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:40 pm
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"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in message
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Vic Baron wrote:
"John Grossbohlin" <grossboj.nospam at (no spam) nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
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"Vic Baron" <vgbaron at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:V2MEm.67730$Jp1.36274 at (no spam) en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...
Just picked up one of these at a sale and have a few questions.

It's in relatively good condition but I plan on giving it a thorough
tuning. I'm puzzled about the plane iron though - it appears that
it has been ground in a slight arc across the cutting edge as
opposed to a 90 degree cut. Is this normal for these planes? I've
seen some planes with a curved blade before but wondering what
effect it will have if I grind straight across.

2nd item - Although it's relatively rust free, the japanning is
chipped in quite a few places. Having it re-japanned ( is that a
word??) is not a viable option as is trying to do that myself. What
might be a good alternative - I was thinking some sort of epoxy
paint. Any ideas?


A slight camber on the iron is useful for correcting out of square
conditions and it keeps the corners from leaving tracks. By slight
we're talking about 1/64" at the ends as compared to the middle.

Personally, for a "user" vs. a decoration I wouldn't bother with
fixing the Japanning... but that's me.

John

Thanx John - Actually I agree about the japanning. I'll just clean it
up and leave it.

The iron isn't rounded at the corners, it's a smooth arc from side to
side. I'll grind it square and round the corners as I usually do.
Just wasn't familiar with this plane and wanted to be sure the arc
wasn't a design function.

It's called "camber" and it is a design function on a jointer plane. The
idea is that you can adjust an out of square edge by the position of the
plane rather than by having to tilt the plane or adjust the iron.




I've got one of my jack planes set up with a a slight arc. I find it useful
for taking off lots of wood in a hurry, while the reduced effective width of
cut lowers resistance. Can't imagine ever wanting to do that to a jointer
though.

diggerop
 
Jim Hall...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:46 pm
Guest
I bought and old mid teens Cor. Stanley 607 on ebay and cleaned it up with 1
part citric acid mixed with to parts water by volume. It's a great rust
remover. I use it on all the old tools I pick up that have rust on them.
Citric acid comes in a powder from the local beer or wine homebrewing store.
I scrub with a green pad and let it soak some more. Repeat until rust is
gone. I was tempted to re-japan with this stuff

http://www.libertyonthehudson.com/pontypool.html

but rust hasn't really come back and like John's mine is a user.


"Vic Baron" <vgbaron at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:V2MEm.67730$Jp1.36274 at (no spam) en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...
Quote:
Just picked up one of these at a sale and have a few questions.

It's in relatively good condition but I plan on giving it a thorough
tuning. I'm puzzled about the plane iron though - it appears that it has
been ground in a slight arc across the cutting edge as opposed to a 90
degree cut. Is this normal for these planes? I've seen some planes with a
curved blade before but wondering what effect it will have if I grind
straight across.

2nd item - Although it's relatively rust free, the japanning is chipped
in quite a few places. Having it re-japanned ( is that a word??) is not a
viable option as is trying to do that myself. What might be a good
alternative - I was thinking some sort of epoxy paint. Any ideas?

Thanx,

Vic



 
Jim Hall...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:49 pm
Guest
10 parts water..

"Jim Hall" <jim_hall_ at (no spam) nospamsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
I bought and old mid teens Cor. Stanley 607 on ebay and cleaned it up with
1 part citric acid mixed with to parts water by volume. It's a great rust
remover. I use it on all the old tools I pick up that have rust on them.
Citric acid comes in a powder from the local beer or wine homebrewing
store. I scrub with a green pad and let it soak some more. Repeat until
rust is gone. I was tempted to re-japan with this stuff

http://www.libertyonthehudson.com/pontypool.html

but rust hasn't really come back and like John's mine is a user.


"Vic Baron" <vgbaron at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:V2MEm.67730$Jp1.36274 at (no spam) en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...
Just picked up one of these at a sale and have a few questions.

It's in relatively good condition but I plan on giving it a thorough
tuning. I'm puzzled about the plane iron though - it appears that it has
been ground in a slight arc across the cutting edge as opposed to a 90
degree cut. Is this normal for these planes? I've seen some planes with
a curved blade before but wondering what effect it will have if I grind
straight across.

2nd item - Although it's relatively rust free, the japanning is chipped
in quite a few places. Having it re-japanned ( is that a word??) is not
a viable option as is trying to do that myself. What might be a good
alternative - I was thinking some sort of epoxy paint. Any ideas?

Thanx,

Vic




 
 
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