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| Ocean of Nuance... |
 Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:18 pm |
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| Eileen... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:18 pm |
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Over on the Chronicle it is the guess of choice that he is either
pentathlon athlete (famous for horrid riding) or else someone like a
polo player who rides a lot but does not really jump. The flat bits he
sits in there pretty darn tight.
Eileen Morgan
The Mare's Nest
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| Tara... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:11 pm |
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"Ocean of Nuance" <lizRMOVzardwoman at (no spam) nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7k75r0F381mg4U1 at (no spam) mid.individual.net...
Quote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opMiCyoRzYM&feature=player_embedded
Can someone explain the biology and physics of this? And the brain
chemistry of the rose who continues.
That rider must be wearing protection.
From a post elsewhere.
I betcha he's well used to this as I believe this is a show/stunt. At first
glance I thought "poooor horse" but after watching it a few times I believe
this man knows what he's doing.
Tara |
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| Hunter Hampton... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:55 pm |
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:18:23 -0400, Ocean of Nuance
<lizRMOVzardwoman at (no spam) nc.rr.com> wrote:
Quote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opMiCyoRzYM&feature=player_embedded
Can someone explain the biology and physics of this? And the brain
chemistry of the rose who continues.
That rider must be wearing protection.
A few thoughts. I want that horse.
It must be his horse because no one would let him on their horse.
That was truly mind boggling... how the hell does he not hit the
ground?
I know, like Peter Pan he's connected to the roof by filament.
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| Eileen... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:29 pm |
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On Oct 21, 6:30 pm, jcdill <jcdill.li... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Can someone translate the text at the end of the video?
On my other list someone translated it as roughly the horse was
slightly sore right after the show jumping round but happily was sound
and continued to compete the following day, no lingering pain.
This is in Portugal, I understand, the horse looks like a Lusitano,
and I believe there is a competition where the polo players and jumper
riders switch for a day. Don't put that in stone, it's all hearsay,
but then I could believe it looking at the way the guy stuck (and
didn't).
Eileen Morgan
The Mare's Nest
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| Splash... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:37 pm |
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On Oct 21, 9:29 pm, Eileen <e... at (no spam) enter.net> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 21, 6:30 pm, jcdill <jcdill.li... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Can someone translate the text at the end of the video?
On my other list someone translated it as roughly the horse was
slightly sore right after the show jumping round but happily was sound
and continued to compete the following day, no lingering pain.
This is in Portugal, I understand, the horse looks like a Lusitano,
and I believe there is a competition where the polo players and jumper
riders switch for a day. Don't put that in stone, it's all hearsay,
but then I could believe it looking at the way the guy stuck (and
didn't).
Eileen Morgan
The Mare's Nesthttp://www.themaresnest.com
Long story short I hope to God I never looked that bad! But after a
bad riding accident during my instructor's training many, many, many
moons ago. My barn broke it's cardinal rule of having students ride/
jump a different horse daily.
Mine was a rotational fall. Physically I fared well. Emotionally I
was a wreck.
They broke all the rules to allow me to finish my program of the
required jumping on a horse I TOTALLY trusted.
Morris Dancer was a complete menace on the ground. A hateful horse
who resented and hated human interaction. BUT put him on a jump
course and IMHO he would clear any round with the rider hanging upside
down off his neck! I hope to God I wasn't that bad?
This is just my opinion but I've always felt Morris was far too
freaking selfish to let a rider chose his spots. He had no intention
of every letting himself be hurt on course because some idiot rider
didn't know how to ride. He cleared every course because he largely
ignored the rider.
Case in point when this horse refused it was because he judged it
couldn't be jumped safely. It could have been rider interference or
just that he bloody well knew his strides were off.
I give no credit to the rider. I think it's pure BS to gather from
the video the rider landed "softly" and probably didn't hurt the
horse. I suspect the horse braced himself for what he knew was
coming. He protected himself!
Smart horse, dangerous rider. Balance maybe, but I didn't see the
riders balance challenged in any of that video. To challenge a riders
balance have a horse shoot out from under him sideways cause a grouse
just flew up said horse's nose.
I don't jump anymore because I KNOW horses like the one on that video
are few and far between. I KNOW that it takes hard, hard work to be a
competant jump rider. Watching that video just encourages idiots that
don't want to take the time and effort to learn how to do it well that
ANYONE can jump!
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| jcdill... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:30 pm |
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jmc wrote:
Quote: Suddenly, without warning, Tara exclaimed (10/20/2009 10:11 PM):
"Ocean of Nuance" <lizRMOVzardwoman at (no spam) nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7k75r0F381mg4U1 at (no spam) mid.individual.net...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opMiCyoRzYM&feature=player_embedded
Can someone explain the biology and physics of this? And the brain
chemistry of the rose who continues.
That rider must be wearing protection.
From a post elsewhere.
I betcha he's well used to this as I believe this is a show/stunt. At
first glance I thought "poooor horse" but after watching it a few
times I believe this man knows what he's doing.
Tara
I'm gonna agree with Tara. He stays on, he goes straight up and not to
the sides, and he often lands so softly the horse's back doesn't even
bounce. I think he's softening the return to the saddle with his knees.
But then again, there's the landing on the neck, and the way he rode
after the refused fence...
I'll say 75% chance he's riding like that on purpose.
I disagree. I think this is a pentathalete who has great balance but
doesn't know much about riding. His great balance is keeping him
centered over the horse (and his horse is GAME and staying straight,
assisting in this process) but he has no riding skill - look at his
lower leg, both on the flat and over the fences. Yes, it appears he's
using his knees as he comes back into the saddle rather than slamming
down into the pomel (or horse's neck) with his crotch. I think this is
a defensive, learned response, not something he's doing because he
*likes* riding this way but rather that he hasn't had enough lessons to
learn how to ride better.
Can someone translate the text at the end of the video?
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| Hunter Hampton... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:41 pm |
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:30:18 -0700, jcdill <jcdill.lists at (no spam) gmail.com>
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Quote: Yes, it appears he's
using his knees as he comes back into the saddle rather than slamming
down into the pomel (or horse's neck) with his crotch. I think this is
a defensive, learned response, not something he's doing because he
*likes* riding this way but rather that he hasn't had enough lessons to
learn how to ride better.
After smashing the family jewels a few times, I think he chooses to
land like he does <g>
Hunter |
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| Jennifer Meyer-Mahoney... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:33 pm |
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"Ocean of Nuance" <lizRMOVzardwoman at (no spam) nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7k75r0F381mg4U1 at (no spam) mid.individual.net...
Quote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opMiCyoRzYM&feature=player_embedded
Can someone explain the biology and physics of this? And the brain
chemistry of the rose who continues.
That rider must be wearing protection.
From a post elsewhere.
As a local trainer used to say after seeing a packer take care of someone
who should never have been allowed to trot much less jump; whatever he paid
for that little horse it should have been double. That horse's place in
heaven is guaranteed.
Jennifer |
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