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Sunday, October 11, 2009

At the European Parliament, during a conference against "Denial", Lady
Renouf asks for proof, one single proof, of "the Holocaust"

From London, where she lives, Lady Michèle Renouf has recently been to
Brussels and there, equipped with the necessary authorisations, on
October 6, 2009 she was able to take part, inside the very building
housing the European Parliament, in a conference on "Denial and
Democracy in Europe". Devoted to the preparation of a pan-European law
criminalising revisionism (in the current jargon, "Holocaust denial"),
the conference attracted about two hundred people, amongst whom a few
members of the European Parliament; it was held under the patronage of
the German Elmar Brok, a former journalist now himself an MEP. In a
lengthy account in English, Lady Renouf has summed up the content of the
various talks, naturally all antirevisionist, each one more pitiful than
the rest.

Amongst the photos she includes in her account are a few of one Gilles
Karmazyn; hitherto, in his long-running efforts on the Internet to track
down revisionists and their writings, this petty Torquemada had
succeeded in hiding his face, no image of which is to be found even with
Google or Wikipedia.

But the most surprising thing is that, by luck, Lady Renouf, unknown to
the person presiding over the conference, obtained permission to speak
after the scheduled participants and she - who is neither a revisionist
nor an antirevisionist - proceeded to deliver an out-and-out plea for a
free debate on "the Holocaust"; she went so far as to ask that, in order
to set off that debate, one proof, one single proof of the existence of
the Nazi gas chambers be supplied.

In any case, the present days seem to bear out the impression that the
exterminationist argument is, as the Americans say, running out of gas.
One may indeed ask whether the lie of the alleged Nazi gas chambers is
now in more or less the same state as Ariel Sharon. And, if it's dead,
isn't it about time it was buried?

A brief and forceful address

Here is the text of Lady Renouf's brief and forceful address. In it, the
letters "WMD" designate the "weapons of mass destruction" attributed to
Adolf Hitler, that is, those "gas chambers" and those "gas vans"
allegedly conceived and used for killing the Jews of Europe, but of
which no trace has ever been found and which, for obvious physical and
technical reasons, are quite simply inconceivable.


Thank you, Madam Chairman,

Ladies and Gentlemen,




This conference is entitled "Denial and Democracy". There is surely only
one way to combat "denial" in a "democratic" context - by not
instituting debate-denial across Europe but instead by providing
documentary evidence to disprove the deniers' case. Two weeks ago
Benjamin Netanyahu based his address to the United Nations on evidence -
so-called industrial WMD construction blueprints - which had been
rejected as spurious by Jewish experts such as Prof. Van Pelt, who went
so far as to say "the deniers are having great fun because it shows how
people are gullible". These same documents held up as proofs by
Netanyahu were in fact first discovered and published in 1976 (as proof
of the normality of gas chambers [*] thus labelled for disinfecting
clothing) by the veteran revisionist Professor Robert Faurisson!



Can this expert conference succeed where Netanyahu failed? Can this
conference send us away with one - just one - clear item of documentary
proof which confounds source-critical Holocaust revisionists? Or must we
merely silence such sceptical voices with threats, fines and prison
sentences and teach our school children debate-denial of normal
historical source criticism? Have you seen the "Guidelines for Teaching
about the Holocaust"? [holding up the Handbook cover] If I may I'll
quote from it: "Care must be taken not to give a platform for deniers
... or seek to disprove the deniers' position through normal historical
debate and rational argument."



As a former lecturer at a university (**) I ask, please: Can the EU do
what the UN did not and give us today one document upon which school
children and their teachers can rely? For even the denial law does not
define what is the unique industrial WMD for which denial of proof
condemns citizens of Europe and beyond to sit for years in prison.



October 11, 2009

-------------------------

(*) Note by RF: Here there is some slight confusion. It was indeed on
March 19, 1976 that I discovered the building plans of the Auschwitz and
Birkenau crematoria; it was precisely in the Archives section of the
Auschwitz State Museum, which had been keeping them hidden since the
war, that I'd had the chance to make that discovery. But only nearly
three years later was it that, after considerable difficulties, I
finally found the way to show copies of a few of my 116 Auschwitz
documents to the press, in this case a reporter and a photographer from
the Spanish magazine Interviu. In issue n° 145 of that weekly (February
22-28, 1979, p. 64-66), I am seen pointing at a part of Krematorium II;
I'm showing the plan of a vast room which, given the layout of the area
and the room's situation, dimensions, structure, ventilation system and
other physical features, cannot have been an execution gas chamber but
indeed was, as was clearly written on the plan, a simple "basement
depository" (Leichenkeller) meant to hold corpses awaiting cremation.
Besides, there were other drawings indicating, in plain lettering, the
existence here or there of one or several small "gas chambers" for
"delousing" (Gaskammer / Entlausung).


(**) Note by RF: In reply to one conference speaker who, in a tone of
disdain, had asked her: "What subject did you lecture in and where?",
Lady Renouf, Australian by birth, said: "I lectured in Fine Arts and
pioneered Media Studies at the Queensland University of Technology,
because I took a professional interest in source scepticism versus
mirage advertising. I am now an independent documentary film-maker from
London."

this BS still going on...how about the thousands of Jews with
concentration camp tattoos? how would it be possible to fake such a
large number of such tattoos?

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during.html

Sunday, October 11, 2009

At the European Parliament, during a conference against "Denial",
Lady Renouf asks for proof, one single proof, of "the Holocaust"

From London, where she lives, Lady Michèle Renouf has recently been
to Brussels and there, equipped with the necessary authorisations, on
October 6, 2009 she was able to take part, inside the very building
housing the European Parliament, in a conference on "Denial and
Democracy in Europe". Devoted to the preparation of a pan-European
law criminalising revisionism (in the current jargon, "Holocaust
denial"), the conference attracted about two hundred people, amongst
whom a few members of the European Parliament; it was held under the
patronage of the German Elmar Brok, a former journalist now himself
an MEP. In a lengthy account in English, Lady Renouf has summed up
the content of the various talks, naturally all antirevisionist, each
one more pitiful than the rest.

Amongst the photos she includes in her account are a few of one
Gilles Karmazyn; hitherto, in his long-running efforts on the
Internet to track down revisionists and their writings, this petty
Torquemada had succeeded in hiding his face, no image of which is to
be found even with Google or Wikipedia.

But the most surprising thing is that, by luck, Lady Renouf, unknown
to the person presiding over the conference, obtained permission to
speak after the scheduled participants and she - who is neither a
revisionist nor an antirevisionist - proceeded to deliver an
out-and-out plea for a free debate on "the Holocaust"; she went so
far as to ask that, in order to set off that debate, one proof, one
single proof of the existence of the Nazi gas chambers be supplied.

In any case, the present days seem to bear out the impression that
the exterminationist argument is, as the Americans say, running out
of gas. One may indeed ask whether the lie of the alleged Nazi gas
chambers is now in more or less the same state as Ariel Sharon. And,
if it's dead, isn't it about time it was buried?

A brief and forceful address

Here is the text of Lady Renouf's brief and forceful address. In it,
the letters "WMD" designate the "weapons of mass destruction"
attributed to Adolf Hitler, that is, those "gas chambers" and those
"gas vans" allegedly conceived and used for killing the Jews of
Europe, but of which no trace has ever been found and which, for
obvious physical and technical reasons, are quite simply
inconceivable.


Thank you, Madam Chairman,

Ladies and Gentlemen,




This conference is entitled "Denial and Democracy". There is surely
only one way to combat "denial" in a "democratic" context - by not
instituting debate-denial across Europe but instead by providing
documentary evidence to disprove the deniers' case. Two weeks ago
Benjamin Netanyahu based his address to the United Nations on
evidence - so-called industrial WMD construction blueprints - which
had been rejected as spurious by Jewish experts such as Prof. Van
Pelt, who went so far as to say "the deniers are having great fun
because it shows how people are gullible". These same documents held
up as proofs by Netanyahu were in fact first discovered and published
in 1976 (as proof of the normality of gas chambers [*] thus labelled
for disinfecting clothing) by the veteran revisionist Professor
Robert Faurisson!



Can this expert conference succeed where Netanyahu failed? Can this
conference send us away with one - just one - clear item of
documentary proof which confounds source-critical Holocaust
revisionists? Or must we merely silence such sceptical voices with
threats, fines and prison sentences and teach our school children
debate-denial of normal historical source criticism? Have you seen
the "Guidelines for Teaching about the Holocaust"? [holding up the
Handbook cover] If I may I'll quote from it: "Care must be taken not
to give a platform for deniers ... or seek to disprove the deniers'
position through normal historical debate and rational argument."



As a former lecturer at a university (**) I ask, please: Can the EU
do what the UN did not and give us today one document upon which
school children and their teachers can rely? For even the denial law
does not define what is the unique industrial WMD for which denial of
proof condemns citizens of Europe and beyond to sit for years in
prison.



October 11, 2009

-------------------------

(*) Note by RF: Here there is some slight confusion. It was indeed on
March 19, 1976 that I discovered the building plans of the Auschwitz
and Birkenau crematoria; it was precisely in the Archives section of
the Auschwitz State Museum, which had been keeping them hidden since
the war, that I'd had the chance to make that discovery. But only
nearly three years later was it that, after considerable
difficulties, I finally found the way to show copies of a few of my
116 Auschwitz documents to the press, in this case a reporter and a
photographer from the Spanish magazine Interviu. In issue n° 145 of
that weekly (February 22-28, 1979, p. 64-66), I am seen pointing at a
part of Krematorium II; I'm showing the plan of a vast room which,
given the layout of the area and the room's situation, dimensions,
structure, ventilation system and other physical features, cannot
have been an execution gas chamber but indeed was, as was clearly
written on the plan, a simple "basement depository" (Leichenkeller)
meant to hold corpses awaiting cremation. Besides, there were other
drawings indicating, in plain lettering, the existence here or there
of one or several small "gas chambers" for "delousing" (Gaskammer /
Entlausung).


(**) Note by RF: In reply to one conference speaker who, in a tone of
disdain, had asked her: "What subject did you lecture in and where?",
Lady Renouf, Australian by birth, said: "I lectured in Fine Arts and
pioneered Media Studies at the Queensland University of Technology,
because I took a professional interest in source scepticism versus
mirage advertising. I am now an independent documentary film-maker
from London."

Where does the article mention Jews with (or without) tattoos?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
I could have sworn the article was about "the Holocaust".
I could have sworn the article called for free debate and not jail
sentences and fines.



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this BS still going on...how about the thousands of Jews with
concentration camp tattoos? how would it be possible to fake such a
large number of such tattoos?

"Ø" <Ø at (no spam) set.null> wrote in message
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http://robertfaurisson.blogspot.com/2009/10/at-european-parliament-
during.html

Sunday, October 11, 2009

At the European Parliament, during a conference against "Denial",
Lady Renouf asks for proof, one single proof, of "the Holocaust"

From London, where she lives, Lady Michèle Renouf has recently been
to Brussels and there, equipped with the necessary authorisations, on
October 6, 2009 she was able to take part, inside the very building
housing the European Parliament, in a conference on "Denial and
Democracy in Europe". Devoted to the preparation of a pan-European
law criminalising revisionism (in the current jargon, "Holocaust
denial"), the conference attracted about two hundred people, amongst
whom a few members of the European Parliament; it was held under the
patronage of the German Elmar Brok, a former journalist now himself
an MEP. In a lengthy account in English, Lady Renouf has summed up
the content of the various talks, naturally all antirevisionist, each
one more pitiful than the rest.

Amongst the photos she includes in her account are a few of one
Gilles Karmazyn; hitherto, in his long-running efforts on the
Internet to track down revisionists and their writings, this petty
Torquemada had succeeded in hiding his face, no image of which is to
be found even with Google or Wikipedia.

But the most surprising thing is that, by luck, Lady Renouf, unknown
to the person presiding over the conference, obtained permission to
speak after the scheduled participants and she - who is neither a
revisionist nor an antirevisionist - proceeded to deliver an
out-and-out plea for a free debate on "the Holocaust"; she went so
far as to ask that, in order to set off that debate, one proof, one
single proof of the existence of the Nazi gas chambers be supplied.

In any case, the present days seem to bear out the impression that
the exterminationist argument is, as the Americans say, running out
of gas. One may indeed ask whether the lie of the alleged Nazi gas
chambers is now in more or less the same state as Ariel Sharon. And,
if it's dead, isn't it about time it was buried?

A brief and forceful address

Here is the text of Lady Renouf's brief and forceful address. In it,
the letters "WMD" designate the "weapons of mass destruction"
attributed to Adolf Hitler, that is, those "gas chambers" and those
"gas vans" allegedly conceived and used for killing the Jews of
Europe, but of which no trace has ever been found and which, for
obvious physical and technical reasons, are quite simply
inconceivable.


Thank you, Madam Chairman,

Ladies and Gentlemen,




This conference is entitled "Denial and Democracy". There is surely
only one way to combat "denial" in a "democratic" context - by not
instituting debate-denial across Europe but instead by providing
documentary evidence to disprove the deniers' case. Two weeks ago
Benjamin Netanyahu based his address to the United Nations on
evidence - so-called industrial WMD construction blueprints - which
had been rejected as spurious by Jewish experts such as Prof. Van
Pelt, who went so far as to say "the deniers are having great fun
because it shows how people are gullible". These same documents held
up as proofs by Netanyahu were in fact first discovered and published
in 1976 (as proof of the normality of gas chambers [*] thus labelled
for disinfecting clothing) by the veteran revisionist Professor
Robert Faurisson!



Can this expert conference succeed where Netanyahu failed? Can this
conference send us away with one - just one - clear item of
documentary proof which confounds source-critical Holocaust
revisionists? Or must we merely silence such sceptical voices with
threats, fines and prison sentences and teach our school children
debate-denial of normal historical source criticism? Have you seen
the "Guidelines for Teaching about the Holocaust"? [holding up the
Handbook cover] If I may I'll quote from it: "Care must be taken not
to give a platform for deniers ... or seek to disprove the deniers'
position through normal historical debate and rational argument."



As a former lecturer at a university (**) I ask, please: Can the EU
do what the UN did not and give us today one document upon which
school children and their teachers can rely? For even the denial law
does not define what is the unique industrial WMD for which denial of
proof condemns citizens of Europe and beyond to sit for years in
prison.



October 11, 2009

-------------------------

(*) Note by RF: Here there is some slight confusion. It was indeed on
March 19, 1976 that I discovered the building plans of the Auschwitz
and Birkenau crematoria; it was precisely in the Archives section of
the Auschwitz State Museum, which had been keeping them hidden since
the war, that I'd had the chance to make that discovery. But only
nearly three years later was it that, after considerable
difficulties, I finally found the way to show copies of a few of my
116 Auschwitz documents to the press, in this case a reporter and a
photographer from the Spanish magazine Interviu. In issue n° 145 of
that weekly (February 22-28, 1979, p. 64-66), I am seen pointing at a
part of Krematorium II; I'm showing the plan of a vast room which,
given the layout of the area and the room's situation, dimensions,
structure, ventilation system and other physical features, cannot
have been an execution gas chamber but indeed was, as was clearly
written on the plan, a simple "basement depository" (Leichenkeller)
meant to hold corpses awaiting cremation. Besides, there were other
drawings indicating, in plain lettering, the existence here or there
of one or several small "gas chambers" for "delousing" (Gaskammer /
Entlausung).


(**) Note by RF: In reply to one conference speaker who, in a tone of
disdain, had asked her: "What subject did you lecture in and where?",
Lady Renouf, Australian by birth, said: "I lectured in Fine Arts and
pioneered Media Studies at the Queensland University of Technology,
because I took a professional interest in source scepticism versus
mirage advertising. I am now an independent documentary film-maker
from London."

get a brain...

she asked for proof and I suggested that the concentration camp
tattoos were sufficient proof of the Holocaust!

maybe I shoulod have
mentioned the Nazi lamp shades made of human skin?

where did I mention jail sentences and fines?

"Ø" <Ø at (no spam) set.null> wrote in message
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Where does the article mention Jews with (or without) tattoos?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
I could have sworn the article was about "the Holocaust".
I could have sworn the article called for free debate and not jail
sentences and fines.



Ø
----------------------
"Dennis M Reed \"Califa\"" <dmreed at (no spam) dmreed.com> wrote in
news:mx7Cm.7962$4E.4447 at (no spam) newsfe08.iad:

this BS still going on...how about the thousands of Jews with
concentration camp tattoos? how would it be possible to fake such a
large number of such tattoos?

"Ø" <Ø at (no spam) set.null> wrote in message
news:1P5Cm.84134$sz1.55102 at (no spam) en-nntp-10.dc1.easynews.com...
http://robertfaurisson.blogspot.com/2009/10/at-european-parliament-
during.html

Sunday, October 11, 2009

At the European Parliament, during a conference against "Denial",
Lady Renouf asks for proof, one single proof, of "the Holocaust"