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| Enzo... |
 Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:39 pm |
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The question that I have asked consistently is finally being asked?
"Messi and 10 more, or Time has come to play without Messi?"
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2009/10/11/um/m-02016829.htm
And a poll-
"Can Argentina afford to leave Messi on the bench?"
I voted Si, and the results are <drumroll> ..
Sí 61.6% No 38.4%
A lot of holy ghosts will be laid to rest before this thing is over. |
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| Enzo... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:31 pm |
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Il Re di Napoli is holding his cards close to his chest.
Rumors about the squad shape for tomorrow are mentioning
that Demichelis, Otamendi and La Brujita Veron will be
in the starting lineup, which will then look like this-
Romero
Demichelis Heinze Otamendi Insúa
Mascherano
Aimar Veron di María
Messi
Higuaín |
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| Enzo... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:47 pm |
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Lineup-
Romero;
Otamendi, Schiavi, Demichelis, Heinze;
Jonás Gutiérrez, Mascherano, Verón, Di María;
Messi e Higuaín,
Another comment from Menotti, eirily similar to
what I said a few days ago -
"Messi no es un estratega, es un definidor de la estrategia,
eso es lo que hace en el Barcelona donde participa del juego de Xavi,
de Iniesta, de Touré, que cada día es mejor."
Essentially, it is a mistake building a team around Messi,
unlike, lets say, Riquelme ( though that had different problems too ).
Problem is, therefore, where is the Xavi and Iniesta and Touré
of Argentina? Dont hold your breath. |
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| Enzo... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:22 pm |
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If if if ...
Argentina-
- win, qualify
- draw and Ecuador lose, draw or win by less than 5 goals, qualify
- draw and Ecuador win by 5 goals or better, playoff
- lose and Ecuador don't win, playoff
- lose and Ecuador win, disaster
Uruguay-
- win, qualify
- draw and Ecuador dont win, playoff
- lose and Ecuador lose, playoff
- lose by less than 13 goals and Ecuador draw, playoff
- lose by 13 or more goals and Ecuador draw, disaster
- lose and Ecuador win, disaster
- draw and Ecuador win, disaster
Ecuador-
- win by 5 or more goals and Centenario draw, qualify
- win by less than 5 goals and Centenario draw, playoff
- win and Argentina win, playoff
- win and Uruguay win, playoff
- draw and Argentina win by 13 or more goals, playoff
- else disaster
Venezuela-
- win by x goals and Argentina wins by y goals and Ecuador draw or
loss
where x+y>=16 or
x+y=15&goals scored by Venezuela-goals scored by Uruguay>=6, playoff
- win by x goals and Argentina wins by y goals and Ecuador draw or
loss
where x+y=15&goals scored by Venezuela-goals scored by Uruguay==5,
coin toss(?)
- else disaster
Likely-
Argentina- qualify
Uruguay- playoff
Ecuador- byebye
Venezuela- forgetaboutit |
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| Enzo... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:28 pm |
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On Oct 14, 3:22 am, Enzo <s_debgu... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: If if if ...
Argentina-
- win, qualify
- draw and Ecuador lose, draw or win by less than 5 goals, qualify
- draw and Ecuador win by 5 goals or better, playoff
- lose and Ecuador don't win, playoff
- lose and Ecuador win, disaster
Uruguay-
- win, qualify
- draw and Ecuador dont win, playoff
- lose and Ecuador lose, playoff
- lose by less than 13 goals and Ecuador draw, playoff
- lose by 13 or more goals and Ecuador draw, disaster
- lose and Ecuador win, disaster
- draw and Ecuador win, disaster
Ecuador-
- win by 5 or more goals and Centenario draw, qualify
- win by less than 5 goals and Centenario draw, playoff
- win and Argentina win, playoff
- win and Uruguay win, playoff
- draw and Argentina win by 13 or more goals, playoff
- else disaster
Venezuela-
- win by x goals and Argentina wins by y goals and Ecuador draw or
loss
where x+y>=16 or
x+y=15&goals scored by Venezuela-goals scored by Uruguay>=6, playoff
- win by x goals and Argentina wins by y goals and Ecuador draw or
loss
where x+y=15&goals scored by Venezuela-goals scored by Uruguay==5,
coin toss(?)
- else disaster
Likely-
Argentina- qualify
Uruguay- playoff
Ecuador- byebye
Venezuela- forgetaboutit
It is actually quite intriguing.
Will Chile turn up for the Ecuador game? Will Bielsa, an Argentinian,
do all he can to make sure Ecuador does not get that vital win?
Because if Ecuador does get the win, they are through. So yes,
all 3 teams hold their fate in their own hands. |
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| Enzo... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:46 pm |
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On Oct 12, 4:39 am, Enzo <s_debgu... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: The question that I have asked consistently is finally being asked?
"Messi and 10 more, or Time has come to play without Messi?"
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2009/10/11/um/m-02016829.htm
And a poll-
"Can Argentina afford to leave Messi on the bench?"
I voted Si, and the results are <drumroll> ..
Sí 61.6% No 38.4%
A lot of holy ghosts will be laid to rest before this thing is over.
Mario "Gerd Müller" Bolatti sends a dire Argentina into the
World Cup finals. Expectedly, Chile beat Ecuador to send
Uruguay into the playoffs, where they should be favored against the
4th
placed Concacaf nation. |
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