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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh...
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:51 pm
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Assuming 0.5 Cal. Hardened lead media were being used, at what
diameter would the media be or unusable,
or what adustment parameters would be needed to compensate for size
decreases?

For pyrotechnic chemicals, lead or hardened lead is good down to about
3/8". Below that size, it's just not heavy enough to do any real
crushing.

Ceramic limit is about 1/2", but you have to mill longer with it.
Stainless steel 1/2" media is dandy.

LLoyd
 
Firebrand...
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:09 pm
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On Sep 17, 5:51 pm, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
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Firebrand <vo... at (no spam) esuhsd.org> fired this volley in news:e84e17ce-7378-
4ac0-baea-783ac9be3... at (no spam) r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

Assuming 0.5 Cal. Hardened lead media were being used, at what
diameter would the media be or unusable,
or what adustment parameters would be needed to compensate for size
decreases?

For pyrotechnic chemicals, lead or hardened lead is good down to about
3/8".  Below that size, it's just not heavy enough to do any real
crushing.

Ceramic limit is about 1/2", but you have to mill longer with it.  
Stainless steel 1/2" media is dandy.

LLoyd

I assume SS is harder than hardened Pb but isn't there a concern about
sparking?
It might be worthwhile to spend a little more on SS of it justifies a
longer media lifespan
(without producing death in the process)
 
Lloyd E. Sponenburgh...
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:59 am
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Firebrand <voktj at (no spam) esuhsd.org> fired this volley in news:307e8d87-8b02-4181-
a758-482804624716 at (no spam) s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com:

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I assume SS is harder than hardened Pb but isn't there a concern about
sparking?
It might be worthwhile to spend a little more on SS of it justifies a
longer media lifespan

The 300-series stainless steels are listed as non-sparking. However, I
would never mill an explosive with a ferrous medium OR with ceramics.

Stainless is ideal for milling individual constituents.

LLoyd
 
Firebrand...
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:48 pm
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On Sep 18, 5:59 am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
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Firebrand <vo... at (no spam) esuhsd.org> fired this volley in news:307e8d87-8b02-4181-
a758-482804624... at (no spam) s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com:

I assume SS is harder than hardened Pb but isn't there a concern about
sparking?
It might be worthwhile to spend a little more on SS of it justifies a
longer media lifespan

The 300-series stainless steels are listed as non-sparking.  However, I
would never mill an explosive with a ferrous medium OR with ceramics.

Stainless is ideal for milling individual constituents.

LLoyd

This is a interesting selection of 300 SS spheres. Which would be an
overall ideal pick for pyrotechnic component milling? (I assume we are
talking 1/2 ")
http://steelmedia.com/stainless-steel-balls.htm
 
Firebrand...
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:00 pm
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On Sep 18, 4:48 pm, Firebrand <vo... at (no spam) esuhsd.org> wrote:
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On Sep 18, 5:59 am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
Firebrand <vo... at (no spam) esuhsd.org> fired this volley in news:307e8d87-8b02-4181-
a758-482804624... at (no spam) s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com:

I assume SS is harder than hardened Pb but isn't there a concern about
sparking?
It might be worthwhile to spend a little more on SS of it justifies a
longer media lifespan

The 300-series stainless steels are listed as non-sparking.  However, I
would never mill an explosive with a ferrous medium OR with ceramics.

Stainless is ideal for milling individual constituents.

LLoyd

This is a interesting selection of 300 SS spheres. Which would be an
overall ideal pick for pyrotechnic component milling? (I assume we are
talking 1/2 ")http://steelmedia.com/stainless-steel-balls.htm

The 316 seems like a possibility with enhanced molybdenum hardening.
 
jasper...
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:03 am
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On 4 Sep, 20:10, Firebrand <vo... at (no spam) esuhsd.org> wrote:
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Considering the present unavailability of the beloved Harbor Freight 3
lb rock tumbler, is anyone familiar with this product as an
alternative?

     http://www.unitednuclear.com/mills.htm

      The HF mill was known to have a fairly limited life span. Would
increased robustness of the above alternative justify the increased
cost? Could this be the answer to those who have a Sponenburg Mill on
their to-do list but want to get something up and running? It can also
be purchased with grinding media.

Another tumbler that operates off of an AC adaptor is shown here:
http://www.apcforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=3832&hl=BALL+MILL

Obviously, making a proper mill is what you should aim for, but
lacking a HF tumbler, this might get you by in the meantime.
 
 
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