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| SFTV_troy... |
 Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:59 am |
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On Jul 21, 8:09 pm, Derek Janssen <ejan... at (no spam) nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
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"I can enjoy watching an episode of The Brady Bunch even though I'm a
41-year-old man," Bonnett admits. "I hope adults will look back fondly
at episodes of Hannah Montana because those shows meant so much to them
growing up."
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Uh-uh.
(whispers) I like Hannah Montana. It's funny. Ditto that iKarly
show. (back to normal voice) As for the other preteen comedies, I
tried watching them and yes they were bad. However the young kids eat
it up - it fits their mental capacity, so Disney has hit upon a
winning formula.
Live-action stars can also be trotted out and used to make money from
concerts - soemthing you can't do with Kim Possible. And Disney does
still make cartoons, albeit aimed at the toddler market (6 to 12 am
daily).
Quote: Back then, we watched those shows because we HAD to, which was
the same reason networks made them: There was nothing else.
In the cable/DVD age, the youth of today have only themselves to blame
Not really. They can blame their parents, who won't let today's youth
watch anything other than Disney or Nickelodeon or Toon. The other
better channels are blocked or simply verboten. |
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| Derek Janssen... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:39 am |
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SFTV_troy wrote:
Quote: On Jul 21, 8:09 pm, Derek Janssen <ejan... at (no spam) nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
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"I can enjoy watching an episode of The Brady Bunch even though I'm a
41-year-old man," Bonnett admits. "I hope adults will look back fondly
at episodes of Hannah Montana because those shows meant so much to them
growing up."
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Uh-uh.
(whispers) I like Hannah Montana. It's funny. Ditto that iKarly
show. (back to normal voice) As for the other preteen comedies, I
tried watching them and yes they were bad. However the young kids eat
it up - it fits their mental capacity, so Disney has hit upon a
winning formula.
Back then, we watched those shows because we HAD to, which was
the same reason networks made them: There was nothing else.
In the cable/DVD age, the youth of today have only themselves to blame
Not really. They can blame their parents, who won't let today's youth
watch anything other than Disney or Nickelodeon or Toon. The other
better channels are blocked or simply verboten.
I remember, back before corporate afternoon syndication, when local
stations took care of after-school programming--
Which usually meant homegrown packages of Mighty Mouse, Casper, Popeye
and Monkees and Bewitched reruns.
....We watched 'em. Why? It was more of a mass-hypnosis thing, that
actually made you curious enough to *watch* a Mighty Mouse cartoon:
It was after six to eight punishing hours of school, and we needed an
audiovisual DRINK. Fast, cheap, and no questions asked.
That aspect of programming never changes, even if cable is the new
kids-syndicated sanctuary, and the low-number stations have been taken
over by Dr. Phil, Judge Judy and the trailer-park crowd.
Kids think is Hannah is "classic viewing" for the same reason they think
High School Musical invented musical theater: It's *in front of them*,
and they don't know their history.
They're not there to watch it for "quality", and to make them watch what
mugging Reagan-era Silver Spoons laughtrack-follies WE old-fogeys
suffered through in prime-time '83, that's making them pay for OUR
neurotic upbringings, and that's child abuse. Any way you slice it.
Derek Janssen
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| Bill Steele... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:38 am |
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In article
<2c1fe40a-d343-4306-a53c-d1c130bf175a at (no spam) m11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
SFTV_troy <SFTV_troy at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: (whispers) I like Hannah Montana. It's funny. Ditto that iKarly
show. (back to normal voice) As for the other preteen comedies, I
tried watching them and yes they were bad. However the young kids eat
it up - it fits their mental capacity, so Disney has hit upon a
winning formula.
Their formula is that these shows are actually funny. Hokey, slapsticky,
but funny. Can't say that for many prime-time sitcoms, and the ones that
are seem to depend heavily on off-color jokes that the kids aren't ready
to understand.
Maybe I'm spoiled. I grew up with Jack Benny and Red Skelton. |
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| Captain Infinity... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:55 pm |
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Once Upon A Time,
Troy "Pervert on Parade" Heagy wrote:
Quote: (whispers) I like
watching
preteen
kids
You sick bastard. I hope they lock you up soon; you won't last the
night with Bubba.
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| Captain Infinity... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:02 pm |
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Once Upon A Time,
Troy "Sicker By The Minute" Heagy wrote:
Quote: (whispers) I like
watching
young kids eat it up
also
trotted out and used
And
the toddler market
You disgust me, you filthy pervert. Castration is too good for you.
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| EBelcher... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:32 pm |
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On Jul 22, 1:38�pm, Bill Steele <w... at (no spam) cornell.edu> wrote:
Quote: In article
2c1fe40a-d343-4306-a53c-d1c130bf1... at (no spam) m11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
�SFTV_troy <SFTV_t... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
(whispers) �I like Hannah Montana. �It's funny. �Ditto that iKarly
show. �(back to normal voice) �As for the other preteen comedies, I
tried watching them and yes they were bad. �However the young kids eat
it up - it fits their mental capacity, so Disney has hit upon a
winning formula.
Their formula is that these shows are actually funny. Hokey, slapsticky,
but funny. Can't say that for many prime-time sitcoms, and the ones that
are seem to depend heavily on off-color jokes that the kids aren't ready
to understand.
Maybe I'm spoiled. �I grew up with Jack Benny and Red Skelton.
I think Wizard and The Suite Life on Deck are better than Hannah
myself,I'm also enjoying Phineas and Ferb as well. |
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| SFTV_troy... |
| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:23 am |
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On Jul 22, 10:39 am, Derek Janssen <ejan... at (no spam) nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
Quote: SFTV_troy wrote:
On Jul 21, 8:09 pm, Derek Janssen <ejan... at (no spam) nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
Back then, we watched those shows because we HAD to, which was
the same reason networks made them: There was nothing else.
In the cable/DVD age, the youth of today have only themselves to blame
Not really. They can blame their parents, who won't let today's youth
watch anything other than Disney or Nickelodeon or Toon. The other
better channels are blocked or simply verboten.
(snip)
Kids think is Hannah is "classic viewing" for the same reason they think
High School Musical invented musical theater: It's *in front of them*,
and they don't know their history.
Isn't that what I said? They'd realize how poor the Disney/Nick
shows truly are, but they don't get exposure to the better shows on
the other channels. And that's the fault of the parents.
Quote: They're not there to watch it for "quality", and to make them watch what
mugging Reagan-era Silver Spoons laughtrack-follies WE old-fogeys
suffered through in prime-time '83, that's making them pay for OUR
neurotic upbringings, and that's child abuse. Any way you slice it.
Agree. I wouldn't do that to a kid. |
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| SFTV_troy... |
| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:30 am |
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On Jul 22, 1:55 pm, Captain Infinity <Infin... at (no spam) captaininfinity.us>
wrote:
Quote: Once Upon A Time,
Troy "Pervert on Parade" Heagy wrote:
(whispers) I like
watching
preteen
kids
You sick bastard. I hope they lock you up soon; you won't last the
night with Bubba.
Actually what I said was that I think Hannah Montana and iCarly are
funny shows. |
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| SFTV_troy... |
| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:31 am |
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On Jul 22, 2:02 pm, Captain Infinity <Infin... at (no spam) captaininfinity.us>
wrote:
Quote: Once Upon A Time,
Troy "Sicker By The Minute" Heagy wrote:
(whispers) I like
watching
young kids eat it up
also
trotted out and used
And
the toddler market
You disgust me, you filthy pervert. Castration is too good for you.
Actually what I said was that I think Hannah Montana and iCarly are
funny shows. |
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| FDR... |
| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:58 am |
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Bill Steele wrote:
Quote: In article
2c1fe40a-d343-4306-a53c-d1c130bf175a at (no spam) m11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
SFTV_troy <SFTV_troy at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
(whispers) I like Hannah Montana. It's funny. Ditto that iKarly
show. (back to normal voice) As for the other preteen comedies, I
tried watching them and yes they were bad. However the young kids eat
it up - it fits their mental capacity, so Disney has hit upon a
winning formula.
Their formula is that these shows are actually funny. Hokey, slapsticky,
but funny. Can't say that for many prime-time sitcoms, and the ones that
are seem to depend heavily on off-color jokes that the kids aren't ready
to understand.
Maybe I'm spoiled. I grew up with Jack Benny and Red Skelton.
Your fathers's? |
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| Bill Steele... |
| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:40 pm |
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In article <21I9m.543$646.286 at (no spam) nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
Derek Janssen <ejanss1 at (no spam) nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
Quote: But as for the "Bewitched" vs. "Jeannie" debate, only a new generation
of Japanese-anime fans can look back at history and appreciate Jeannie
as the American Lum, twenty years ahead of her time.)
Glad you brought that up. A lot of Japanese anime is made for kids, but
is amazingly more interesting than American-made cartoons -- so much so
that we have an American movement of grownups who enjoy it . My
explanation is that the Japanese have more respect for their kids. |
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