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Fred...
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:54 pm
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Is anyone somewhat faniliar w this area?
We wre going there w some friends late June
We need suggestions for a cabin - a little off the beaten path to stay for
2-or 4 people and suggestions for hikes to remote fishing access


Thanks
Fred
 
Kent Fletcher...
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:40 pm
Guest
Ron made many helpful comments. In addition, there are cabins available
at Mammoth and at Roosevelt, both inside the Park on the north end.
Both of these areas are much quieter than the Old Faithful area. There
are also cabins available in the Silver Gate and Cooke City area just
outside the northeast entrance to the park. The cabins at Roosevelt are
pretty rustic, but Roosevelt gets much less traffic than any other area
of the park offering accommodations. You can check with Xanterra, the
park concessionaire, and see if any are available when you will be
there. You can hike to fish in many areas inside the park - Trout Lake
on the north end, the trail to Lone Star Geyser offers some brookie
fishing, 7 mile hole trail in the Canyon area, and many many more. Water
may be pretty high everywhere in the area in June and there will still
be snow at higher elevations - run off peak is normally mid June or so.
There are several books that are published on fishing in the park and
some on the Yellowstone River. Check out the Yellowstone Association
web site - it has several available. You can also search Amazon.com
under "Yellowstone" and it will turn up many. Finally, there are some
fly fishing shops in West Yellowstone that have decent web pages that
post fishing report. Just do a web search under "Yellowstone Fishing
Reports" and it should kick up a few.

Fred wrote:
Quote:
Is anyone somewhat faniliar w this area?
We wre going there w some friends late June
We need suggestions for a cabin - a little off the beaten path to stay for
2-or 4 people and suggestions for hikes to remote fishing access


Thanks
Fred
 
Ron Recer...
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:13 pm
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"Kent Fletcher" <wkf at (no spam) pmt.org> wrote in message
news:2cSdnfT_iNBmBAXUnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d at (no spam) posted.linktelnetworksllc...
Quote:
Ron made many helpful comments. In addition, there are cabins available
at Mammoth and at Roosevelt, both inside the Park on the north end. Both
of these areas are much quieter than the Old Faithful area. There are
also cabins available in the Silver Gate and Cooke City area just outside
the northeast entrance to the park. The cabins at Roosevelt are pretty
rustic, but Roosevelt gets much less traffic than any other area of the
park offering accommodations. You can check with Xanterra, the park
concessionaire, and see if any are available when you will be there. You
can hike to fish in many areas inside the park - Trout Lake on the north
end, the trail to Lone Star Geyser offers some brookie fishing, 7 mile
hole trail in the Canyon area, and many many more. Water may be pretty
high everywhere in the area in June and there will still be snow at higher
elevations - run off peak is normally mid June or so. There are several
books that are published on fishing in the park and some on the
Yellowstone River. Check out the Yellowstone Association web site - it
has several available. You can also search Amazon.com under "Yellowstone"
and it will turn up many. Finally, there are some fly fishing shops in
West Yellowstone that have decent web pages that post fishing report.
Just do a web search under "Yellowstone Fishing Reports" and it should
kick up a few.

Unless they have changed there are two kinds of cabins in YNP. The delux

cabin has a bathroom, but don't expect tv, radio or phones! The cabins at
Roosevelt Lodge would be a good choice if you plan to fish the Lamar River
and Soda Butte Creek as they are only a few miles away.

If this spring is like last year you won't have to worry about fishing any
of the streams. Last year the streams in YNP were at or near flood stage at
that time of year and the water resembled chocholate milk. On the
Yellowstone itself debris as large as entire mature pines were moving
downstream. It was late July before most stream were fishable.

If you are in the mood for a new fly rod, be sure to go to Silver Gate.
There is a guy there that makes bambo flyrods. Just watch for his small
sign.

Ron
 
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:11 am
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On Feb 15, 3:13 pm, "Ron Recer" <RonRe... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Kent Fletcher" <w... at (no spam) pmt.org> wrote in message

news:2cSdnfT_iNBmBAXUnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d at (no spam) posted.linktelnetworksllc...

Ron made many helpful comments.  In addition, there are cabins available
at Mammoth and at Roosevelt, both inside the Park on the north end. Both
of these areas are much quieter than the Old Faithful area.  There are
also cabins available in the Silver Gate and Cooke City area just outside
the northeast entrance to the park.  The cabins at Roosevelt are pretty
rustic, but Roosevelt gets much less traffic than any other area of the
park offering accommodations.  You can check with Xanterra, the park
concessionaire, and see if any are available when you will be there.  You
can hike to fish in many areas inside the park - Trout Lake on the north
end, the trail to Lone Star Geyser offers some brookie fishing, 7 mile
hole trail in the Canyon area, and many many more. Water may be pretty
high everywhere in the area in June and there will still be snow at higher
elevations - run off peak is normally mid June or so. There are several
books that are published on fishing in the park and some on the
Yellowstone River.  Check out the Yellowstone Association web site - it
has several available.  You can also search Amazon.com under "Yellowstone"
and it will turn up many.  Finally, there are some fly fishing shops in
West Yellowstone that have decent web pages that post fishing report.
Just do a web search under "Yellowstone Fishing Reports" and it should
kick up a few.

Unless they have changed there are two kinds of cabins in YNP.  The delux
cabin has a bathroom, but don't expect tv, radio or phones!  The cabins at
Roosevelt Lodge would be a good choice if you plan to fish the Lamar River
and Soda Butte Creek as they are only a few miles away.

There are way more than two types of cabins in Yellowstone. Some are
motel-style units while others are older western style cabins.
There's cabins with or without their own bathrooms; it's not that bad
without since there are community bathrooms and showers. The
Yellowstone Canyon area itself has three levels of cabins (all have
their own bathrooms) built in the 1950s. All the cabins there are
attached groups of 4+ units. At Old Faithful I stayed in a detached
budget cabin without bathroom (there was a sink). The Roughrider
Cabin I stayed at Roosevelt was heated by a stove using supplied
pressed-sawdust logs. The room smelled like smoke in the morning.

And for anyone doing a search, it's spelled Gardiner, Montana.
 
...
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:08 pm
Guest
On Feb 19, 11:13 am, Kent Fletcher <w... at (no spam) pmt.org> wrote:
Quote:
y_... at (no spam) hotmail.com wrote:
On Feb 15, 3:13 pm, "Ron Recer" <RonRe... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
"Kent Fletcher" <w... at (no spam) pmt.org> wrote in message

news:2cSdnfT_iNBmBAXUnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d at (no spam) posted.linktelnetworksllc...

Ron made many helpful comments.  In addition, there are cabins available
at Mammoth and at Roosevelt, both inside the Park on the north end. Both
of these areas are much quieter than the Old Faithful area.  There are
also cabins available in the Silver Gate and Cooke City area just outside
the northeast entrance to the park.  The cabins at Roosevelt are pretty
rustic, but Roosevelt gets much less traffic than any other area of the
park offering accommodations.  You can check with Xanterra, the park
concessionaire, and see if any are available when you will be there.  You
can hike to fish in many areas inside the park - Trout Lake on the north
end, the trail to Lone Star Geyser offers some brookie fishing, 7 mile
hole trail in the Canyon area, and many many more. Water may be pretty
high everywhere in the area in June and there will still be snow at higher
elevations - run off peak is normally mid June or so. There are several
books that are published on fishing in the park and some on the
Yellowstone River.  Check out the Yellowstone Association web site - it
has several available.  You can also search Amazon.com under "Yellowstone"
and it will turn up many.  Finally, there are some fly fishing shops in
West Yellowstone that have decent web pages that post fishing report.
Just do a web search under "Yellowstone Fishing Reports" and it should
kick up a few.
Unless they have changed there are two kinds of cabins in YNP.  The delux
cabin has a bathroom, but don't expect tv, radio or phones!  The cabins at
Roosevelt Lodge would be a good choice if you plan to fish the Lamar River
and Soda Butte Creek as they are only a few miles away.

There are way more than two types of cabins in Yellowstone.  Some are
motel-style units while others are older western style cabins.
There's cabins with or without their own bathrooms; it's not that bad
without since there are community bathrooms and showers.  The
Yellowstone Canyon area itself has three levels of cabins (all have
their own bathrooms) built in the 1950s.  All the cabins there are
attached groups of 4+ units.  At Old Faithful I stayed in a detached
budget cabin without bathroom (there was a sink).  The Roughrider
Cabin I stayed at Roosevelt was heated by a stove using supplied
pressed-sawdust logs.  The room smelled like smoke in the morning.

And for anyone doing a search, it's spelled Gardiner, Montana.

You both are right.  There are two basic type of 'stand alone" cabins -
with or without bath - variations are found at Mammoth (some are
duplexes), Roosevelt, Lake Hotel and maybe still a few at Old Faithful.
  I can't remember if the ones at Lake Lodge are stand alone.  There are
also accommodations at Old Faithful and Canyon (and maybe Lake Lodge)
called cabins by the concessionaire that are more like small motel units
with 2 to 4 or more units in a building. And then there's the condos at
Grant and the hotels at Mammoth, Lake and Old Faithful Inn, Old Faithful
Lodge and Old Faithful Snow Lodge.  Even in the hotels, many of the
rooms do not have in room bathrooms.  Very few rooms anywhere in the
park offer TV or phones in the rooms, although some of the bars have TVs
and there are public phones available.

I think "cabin" as a definition means a roughly built lodging/housing
unit detached from any main building and with individual access from
outside. It doesn't necessarily have to be a log cabin. I understand
the ones in Canyon Village were from the 50's when the main lodge was
removed and a modern (somewhat out of place) looking lodge was built.
The cabins all over Yellowstone were built at different times for
different aesthetic opinions of what national park lodging was
supposed to be. These days you get grand wood buildings that look
like they could be an upscale ski lodge.

http://www.travelyellowstone.com/lodging-71.html

I've stayed in log cabins. On that same trip I reference, I stayed at
Colter Bay in Grand Teton in some 1910-era log cabins that were
relocated from a site north of Jackson. I stayed in one of the
original (duplex) cabins that Gilbert Stanley Underwood designed for
the Union Pacific in Bryce Canyon. Those were what people generally
think of as rustic cabins.

Strangely enough at the Grand Canyon's Maswik Lodge cabins, they do
have telephones and and TVs. They're also supposedly budget
accomodations.

Quote:
        As an aside, the history of the older cabins is pretty interesting.
Many of them have been moved around the park over the years as older
accommodations were shut down or relocated.

They may be old and showing their age, but they did keep me dry when
it rained like crazy.
 
Kent Fletcher...
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:13 pm
Guest
y_p_w at (no spam) hotmail.com wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 15, 3:13 pm, "Ron Recer" <RonRe... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
"Kent Fletcher" <w... at (no spam) pmt.org> wrote in message

news:2cSdnfT_iNBmBAXUnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d at (no spam) posted.linktelnetworksllc...

Ron made many helpful comments. In addition, there are cabins available
at Mammoth and at Roosevelt, both inside the Park on the north end. Both
of these areas are much quieter than the Old Faithful area. There are
also cabins available in the Silver Gate and Cooke City area just outside
the northeast entrance to the park. The cabins at Roosevelt are pretty
rustic, but Roosevelt gets much less traffic than any other area of the
park offering accommodations. You can check with Xanterra, the park
concessionaire, and see if any are available when you will be there. You
can hike to fish in many areas inside the park - Trout Lake on the north
end, the trail to Lone Star Geyser offers some brookie fishing, 7 mile
hole trail in the Canyon area, and many many more. Water may be pretty
high everywhere in the area in June and there will still be snow at higher
elevations - run off peak is normally mid June or so. There are several
books that are published on fishing in the park and some on the
Yellowstone River. Check out the Yellowstone Association web site - it
has several available. You can also search Amazon.com under "Yellowstone"
and it will turn up many. Finally, there are some fly fishing shops in
West Yellowstone that have decent web pages that post fishing report.
Just do a web search under "Yellowstone Fishing Reports" and it should
kick up a few.
Unless they have changed there are two kinds of cabins in YNP. The delux
cabin has a bathroom, but don't expect tv, radio or phones! The cabins at
Roosevelt Lodge would be a good choice if you plan to fish the Lamar River
and Soda Butte Creek as they are only a few miles away.

There are way more than two types of cabins in Yellowstone. Some are
motel-style units while others are older western style cabins.
There's cabins with or without their own bathrooms; it's not that bad
without since there are community bathrooms and showers. The
Yellowstone Canyon area itself has three levels of cabins (all have
their own bathrooms) built in the 1950s. All the cabins there are
attached groups of 4+ units. At Old Faithful I stayed in a detached
budget cabin without bathroom (there was a sink). The Roughrider
Cabin I stayed at Roosevelt was heated by a stove using supplied
pressed-sawdust logs. The room smelled like smoke in the morning.

And for anyone doing a search, it's spelled Gardiner, Montana.

You both are right. There are two basic type of 'stand alone" cabins -
with or without bath - variations are found at Mammoth (some are
duplexes), Roosevelt, Lake Hotel and maybe still a few at Old Faithful.
I can't remember if the ones at Lake Lodge are stand alone. There are
also accommodations at Old Faithful and Canyon (and maybe Lake Lodge)
called cabins by the concessionaire that are more like small motel units
with 2 to 4 or more units in a building. And then there's the condos at
Grant and the hotels at Mammoth, Lake and Old Faithful Inn, Old Faithful
Lodge and Old Faithful Snow Lodge. Even in the hotels, many of the
rooms do not have in room bathrooms. Very few rooms anywhere in the
park offer TV or phones in the rooms, although some of the bars have TVs
and there are public phones available.
As an aside, the history of the older cabins is pretty interesting.
Many of them have been moved around the park over the years as older
accommodations were shut down or relocated.
 
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:20 pm
Guest
On Feb 9, 10:54 am, "Fred" <fle... at (no spam) highaltitudes.net> wrote:
Quote:
 Is anyone somewhat faniliar w this area?
We wre going there w some friends late June
We need suggestions for a cabin - a little off the beaten path to stay for
2-or 4 people and suggestions for hikes to remote fishing access

Some said maybe Roosevelt Lodge and their rustic cabins. I don't know
if they're available, but I enjoyed one of those cabins for one
night. I was talking to a Xanterra employee there who was in charge
of the concessionaire's local warehouse, and whose wife was group
lodging director at Roosevelt. He relayed that they had a lot of
people complaining that the accommodations were substandard - not
knowing beforehand what "rustic cabin" meant.

I also had dinner at the Roosevelt Old West Cookout, complete with a
horse-drawn wagon ride to the dining site. They also have options to
arrive by guided horseback rides, although that part was canceled for
our dinner.

http://www.travelyellowstone.com/roosevelt-lodge-dining-room-old-west-dinner-cookout-179.html
 
Ron Recer...
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:11 pm
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<y_p_w at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 15, 3:13 pm, "Ron Recer" <RonRe... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Kent Fletcher" <w... at (no spam) pmt.org> wrote in message

news:2cSdnfT_iNBmBAXUnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d at (no spam) posted.linktelnetworksllc...

And for anyone doing a search, it's spelled Gardiner, Montana.

Although 'Gardiner' is the correct spelling for the town, 'Gardner' is the
correct spelling of the river that empties into the Yellowstone River at
'Gardiner'. As I understand it both are named for the same man. A story on
either a placemat or menu at a 'Gardiner' restaurant relates that the 'i' in
'Gardiner' may have more to do with the southern accent of an early
settler/trapper than with the actual spelling of anyone's name.

Ron
 
Kent Fletcher...
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:57 pm
Guest
y_p_w at (no spam) hotmail.com wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 9, 10:54 am, "Fred" <fle... at (no spam) highaltitudes.net> wrote:
Is anyone somewhat faniliar w this area?
We wre going there w some friends late June
We need suggestions for a cabin - a little off the beaten path to stay for
2-or 4 people and suggestions for hikes to remote fishing access

Some said maybe Roosevelt Lodge and their rustic cabins. I don't know
if they're available, but I enjoyed one of those cabins for one
night. I was talking to a Xanterra employee there who was in charge
of the concessionaire's local warehouse, and whose wife was group
lodging director at Roosevelt. He relayed that they had a lot of
people complaining that the accommodations were substandard - not
knowing beforehand what "rustic cabin" meant.

I also had dinner at the Roosevelt Old West Cookout, complete with a
horse-drawn wagon ride to the dining site. They also have options to
arrive by guided horseback rides, although that part was canceled for
our dinner.

http://www.travelyellowstone.com/roosevelt-lodge-dining-room-old-west-dinner-cookout-179.html
Some of the cabins at Roosevelt are the most "rustic" in the park - bed,

chair, wood stove, but as you point out, they all keep you dry and warm,
at least until the fire goes out. The only "cabin" I've had leak on me
was one of those units at Canyon, and they've recently done a lot of
work in the Canyon area fixing up facilities.
 
Fred...
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:21 pm
Guest
Thanks to all of you for some VERY useful info

Fred
 
 
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