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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:33 am |
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WOW!!
Talk about a rapid response!
Thanks very much. So I can eat them then, that's good to know. What
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| Mike... |
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:20 pm |
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<clangers_snout at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:6e833a7d-8543-46ce-81a3-9dbda6e58b9c at (no spam) 26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
Passion Flower
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| Nick Maclaren... |
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:27 pm |
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In article <vMednY7ijtyYtUDVnZ2dnUVZ8hydnZ2d at (no spam) bt.com>,
"'Mike'" <3d&6d at (no spam) woolies.com> writes:
|> <clangers_snout at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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|> >I have this fuity bushy thing in my garden that was there when I
|> > bought the house and I have no idea what it is.
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|> Passion Flower
Specifically, Passiflora caerulea. The fruits are edible when ripe,
just like the ones you can buy in the shops, but are best described
as insipid. They have a slight passion fruit flavour, but not much.
Still, they aren't unpleasant.
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Nick Maclaren. |
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:47 pm |
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In article <45e23453-09e1-4ab8-bc01-c721c90594c9 at (no spam) 34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
clangers_snout at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk writes:
|> WOW!!
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|> Talk about a rapid response!
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|> Thanks very much. So I can eat them then, that's good to know. What
|> colour should they be when fully ripe?
Yellow to orange. They will also start to feel a bit softer.
Incidentally, the plant will get cut back by any frosts, and can be
cut back as hard as you like in winter or spring to keep it under
control.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren. |
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| Jeff Layman... |
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:59 pm |
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Nick Maclaren wrote:
Quote: In article <vMednY7ijtyYtUDVnZ2dnUVZ8hydnZ2d at (no spam) bt.com>,
"'Mike'" <3d&6d at (no spam) woolies.com> writes:
clangers_snout at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:6e833a7d-8543-46ce-81a3-9dbda6e58b9c at (no spam) 26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
I have this fuity bushy thing in my garden that was there when I
bought the house and I have no idea what it is.
Passion Flower
Specifically, Passiflora caerulea. The fruits are edible when ripe,
just like the ones you can buy in the shops, but are best described
as insipid. They have a slight passion fruit flavour, but not much.
Still, they aren't unpleasant.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Surely you are only referring to the red pulp (and seeds). As far as I
remember, the skin is not very pleasant.
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| Rusty Hinge 2... |
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:09 pm |
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The message <45e23453-09e1-4ab8-bc01-c721c90594c9 at (no spam) 34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
from clangers_snout at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk contains these words:
Quote: WOW!!
Talk about a rapid response!
Thanks very much. So I can eat them then, that's good to know. What
colour should they be when fully ripe?
Yellow.
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| Omelet... |
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:13 pm |
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In article
<6e833a7d-8543-46ce-81a3-9dbda6e58b9c at (no spam) 26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>,
clangers_snout at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk wrote:
That's an easy on. Passion vine! Be careful, under-ripe fruit of
the wrong species tend to be mildly toxic.
There are many varieties.
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| Omelet... |
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:14 pm |
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In article <gbjan6$s76$1 at (no spam) gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>,
nmm1 at (no spam) cus.cam.ac.uk (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
Quote: In article <45e23453-09e1-4ab8-bc01-c721c90594c9 at (no spam) 34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
clangers_snout at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk writes:
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|> Talk about a rapid response!
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|> Thanks very much. So I can eat them then, that's good to know. What
|> colour should they be when fully ripe?
Yellow to orange. They will also start to feel a bit softer.
Incidentally, the plant will get cut back by any frosts, and can be
cut back as hard as you like in winter or spring to keep it under
control.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Seconded. Passion vines love to take over if you let them.
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| paghat... |
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:44 pm |
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In article
<45e23453-09e1-4ab8-bc01-c721c90594c9 at (no spam) 34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
clangers_snout at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Quote: WOW!!
Talk about a rapid response!
Thanks very much. So I can eat them then, that's good to know. What
colour should they be when fully ripe?
They're yellow when ripe, but the strains sold for gardes are almost
always hollow with just a tiny dollop of bright red pulp and loads of
black seeds. I pop them open and suck the seeds then spit out the seeds
while in the garden. It would take hundreds to have enough of the red pulp
to strain and can. There are species with plenty of pulp inside, but not
the purple passion flower. I like the flavor, but everyone else I've
convinced to try the red pulp didn't think much of it.
However, the yellow rind is a fair substitute for any "green tomatoes"
recipe, or mixed with green tomatoes or squashes or bell peppers, or mixed
into relish. The simplest thins is to slice up the rinds smallish, fry
with onion and green pepper in oil or butter, & added to scrambled
eggs. Or fry until partially browned in very hot oil with onion, bell
pepper, and wdhatever else you like, to make a relish that'll keep for
weeks in the frigerator and goes nicely with hotdogs (tofu hotdogs in my
case) or other sorts of sandwiches, even on grilled cheese.
-paghat the ratgirl
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:14 am |
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:44:15 -0700, gardenSPAM-ME-NOT at (no spam) paghat.com
(paghat) wrote:
Quote: In article
45e23453-09e1-4ab8-bc01-c721c90594c9 at (no spam) 34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
clangers_snout at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk wrote:
WOW!!
Talk about a rapid response!
Thanks very much. So I can eat them then, that's good to know. What
colour should they be when fully ripe?
They're yellow when ripe, but the strains sold for gardes are almost
always hollow with just a tiny dollop of bright red pulp and loads of
black seeds. I pop them open and suck the seeds then spit out the seeds
while in the garden. It would take hundreds to have enough of the red pulp
to strain and can. There are species with plenty of pulp inside, but not
the purple passion flower. I like the flavor, but everyone else I've
convinced to try the red pulp didn't think much of it.
However, the yellow rind is a fair substitute for any "green tomatoes"
recipe, or mixed with green tomatoes or squashes or bell peppers, or mixed
into relish. The simplest thins is to slice up the rinds smallish, fry
with onion and green pepper in oil or butter, & added to scrambled
eggs. Or fry until partially browned in very hot oil with onion, bell
pepper, and wdhatever else you like, to make a relish that'll keep for
weeks in the frigerator and goes nicely with hotdogs (tofu hotdogs in my
case) or other sorts of sandwiches, even on grilled cheese.
-paghat the ratgirl
Pags, is Riverside Washington anywhere near you or does it have
similar climate? I want to use your website to make recommendations
for Lama Zopa Rinpoche's home in WA. Lot's of deer. He wants tons of
color. I looked it up on a zone map and it maps it at around zone 5.
I doubt you are that cold, so is this way north or inland or what?
Will the plants lists on your site apply also to Riverside? Any help
appreciated.
Deer, color, perennial, sounds cold!
V
Victoria
"There are known knowns. These are things we
know that we know. There are known unknowns.
That is to say, there are things that we know
we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns.
There are things we don't know we don't know."
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| paghat... |
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:13 pm |
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In article <emfsd4hqhl37qira7747lm3kf571dd8pnt at (no spam) 4ax.com>, Jangchub
<animaux99 at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:44:15 -0700, gardenSPAM-ME-NOT at (no spam) paghat.com
(paghat) wrote:
In article
45e23453-09e1-4ab8-bc01-c721c90594c9 at (no spam) 34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
clangers_snout at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk wrote:
WOW!!
Talk about a rapid response!
Thanks very much. So I can eat them then, that's good to know. What
colour should they be when fully ripe?
They're yellow when ripe, but the strains sold for gardes are almost
always hollow with just a tiny dollop of bright red pulp and loads of
black seeds. I pop them open and suck the seeds then spit out the seeds
while in the garden. It would take hundreds to have enough of the red pulp
to strain and can. There are species with plenty of pulp inside, but not
the purple passion flower. I like the flavor, but everyone else I've
convinced to try the red pulp didn't think much of it.
However, the yellow rind is a fair substitute for any "green tomatoes"
recipe, or mixed with green tomatoes or squashes or bell peppers, or mixed
into relish. The simplest thins is to slice up the rinds smallish, fry
with onion and green pepper in oil or butter, & added to scrambled
eggs. Or fry until partially browned in very hot oil with onion, bell
pepper, and wdhatever else you like, to make a relish that'll keep for
weeks in the frigerator and goes nicely with hotdogs (tofu hotdogs in my
case) or other sorts of sandwiches, even on grilled cheese.
-paghat the ratgirl
Pags, is Riverside Washington anywhere near you or does it have
similar climate?
Riverside is in Okanagan county, clear across a mountain range from me,
into rather dry areas with thin pine forests opening onto arid prairies
(in a rain-shadow caused by the Cascades). Really couldn't be any
different from my damp and deeply green waterbound county of Kitsap. More
like living on the Russian steppes. Good place to grow temperate ground
orchids, which do poorly my side of the mountain but love the prairie
weather patterns.
If property has any native Rhododendron albiflorum they should preserved
in-place, as they almost always die if transplanted. If I lived there I'd
have to completely relearn gardening, though I wouldn't mind the chance of
having a collection of ground orchids.
Might seem an odd place for a Mahayanan lama to have a home but almost
half the county is Asian people, which doesn't mean a lot of people, the
whole county must have only about 3,000 folks in it. And just over the
boarder in Canada is a Buddhist retreat.
-paggers
Quote: I want to use your website to make recommendations
for Lama Zopa Rinpoche's home in WA. Lot's of deer. He wants tons of
color. I looked it up on a zone map and it maps it at around zone 5.
I doubt you are that cold, so is this way north or inland or what?
Will the plants lists on your site apply also to Riverside? Any help
appreciated.
Deer, color, perennial, sounds cold!
V
Victoria
"There are known knowns. These are things we
know that we know. There are known unknowns.
That is to say, there are things that we know
we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns.
There are things we don't know we don't know."
Donald Rumsfeld
http://gotbodhicitta-wangmo.blogspot.com/
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http://www.paghat.com
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:46 pm |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:13:53 -0700, gardenSPAM-ME-NOT at (no spam) paghat.com
(paghat) wrote:
Quote:
Riverside is in Okanagan county, clear across a mountain range from me,
into rather dry areas with thin pine forests opening onto arid prairies
(in a rain-shadow caused by the Cascades). Really couldn't be any
different from my damp and deeply green waterbound county of Kitsap. More
like living on the Russian steppes. Good place to grow temperate ground
orchids, which do poorly my side of the mountain but love the prairie
weather patterns.
If property has any native Rhododendron albiflorum they should preserved
in-place, as they almost always die if transplanted. If I lived there I'd
have to completely relearn gardening, though I wouldn't mind the chance of
having a collection of ground orchids.
Might seem an odd place for a Mahayanan lama to have a home but almost
half the county is Asian people, which doesn't mean a lot of people, the
whole county must have only about 3,000 folks in it. And just over the
boarder in Canada is a Buddhist retreat.
-paggers
Rinpoche has three homes and mostly nuns and monks live there who are
getting older or are not associated with any of the FPMT centers
Rinpoche oversees. He is rarely there, and also has a home in Aptos,
CA. I believe these were donated and again, nuns and monks live on
the properties and get a small stipend. He barely if ever sleeps. A
true bodhisattva. If interested in who he is, www.fpmt.org This is
the foundation I am associated with under the lineage which can be
traced all the way back to the written sutras through Nalanda
Monastery.
I'm trying to help one of the nuns come up with plants the deer won't
love. I'll definitely look into the ground orchids because one area
is on a slope and she is looking for something to put there which
flowers. She originally wanted vetch, but has been getting some ideas
of diversity from our discussion and so I would like to help her out.
According to her zip code she is in USDA Zone 4a. Brrrrrr. It may be
a challenge.
Victoria
"There are known knowns. These are things we
know that we know. There are known unknowns.
That is to say, there are things that we know
we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns.
There are things we don't know we don't know."
Donald Rumsfeld
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