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| Al Wells... |
 Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:00 pm |
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On Saturday I went with a buddy and a group of friends to the wreck of
the Tolten off of NJ. Sea conditions were good, with a 2-4 ft long
period swell. Bottom temperature around 90 ft was 47 degrees. We went on
the boat Independence II from Point Pleasant. it is a 34' Evans and
fast.
The Tolten was originally the Danish freighter Lotta, but was taken over
by the Chilean government and renamed Tolten when Denmark was taken by
the Germans in WWII. It operating under a Chilean flag when it was sunk
by the U-404 on Friday, March 13, 1942. Chile was then neutral, and the
U boat captain admitted after the war that it was dark and he had no
idea what he was shooting at. The wreck now lies W-E at about 90 ft.
Although broken up, it is fairly contiguous and easy to navigate. It was
wire dragged after the war, and some wreckage is smeared to the north.
My buddy and I splashed, and after a quick check at 20 ft descended to
the wreck. We were tied in to a large anchor at the bow. We swam to the
port (south) side of the wreck and headed forward and around the bow and
then toward the stern on the starboard (north) side. Before rounding the
bow, my buddy signaled and pointed out a big monkfish just laying on the
bottom. It seemed pretty unfazed by our presence, but I had no speargun
to dispatch it with and we left it. As we headed toward the stern, we
stopped briefly to try to catch a lobster, but its hiding place was just
out of reach. Continuing toward the stern, we saw many ling cod and some
black sea bass, and some other fish I don't know. It was all too soon
that we had to turn around and head back to the anchor line for our
ascent.
During the surface interval, we feasted on hot dogs, fresh fruit,
perogies, cookies, brownies, and assorted chips. Even though I still had
2000 psi in the set of tanks I used for the first dive, I switched to a
fresh set and took gas management completely out of
the second dive.
We again spalashed, and after our 20 ft check, we descended and again
headed aft, but this time on the port (south) side. This time we saw
several eel pouts, and swam past the boiler and along the shaft tunnel,
poking into many holes in search of lobsters or things to see. After we
turned to return to the anchor line, we saw a very big sea robin
swimming about, a couple of togs, some sea bass and more eel pouts. When
we got back to the anchor we decided to extend our dive a little, and my
buddy spotted Lobsterzilla about 15 ft below us and around some steel
plates. I swam around the plates and down, but it was between 2 plates
in a space I just couldn't get into. It was probably too big to take
anyway. Again it was time to go, and we did another slow ascent and were
finished for the day.
The run back to the dock was a little over an hour. It was a great day
of diving, and since my regular buddy (Cindy) hasn't been diving for
over a year, it was a treat to dive with a buddy who is on the same
page.
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| Grumman-581... |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:00 pm |
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Al Wells <al.wells at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.22d464dccb2b9ad4989a55 at (no spam) news.verizon.net:
Quote: I'd rather not wake up to the sound of someone breaking into my house.
To that end, I have several sets of motion detectors around (and in)
my house. The most distant sensors claim a range of 3000 ft., but
being as how where I am the signal has to go through several walls and
obstacles, my max range from inside the house to the sensor is only
about 1500 feet.
Nearly enough time to get a cup of coffee, get nice and awake, determine
the appropriate firearm for the task at hand, and then use it... Nearly...
Maybe if you switched to instant coffee it would work though... <grin>
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| Grumman-581... |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:00 pm |
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Al Wells <al.wells at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.22d4744347212c41989a56 at (no spam) news.verizon.net:
Quote: I don't know how you did this Mike, but this is not my post - it is
from a different thread
Interesting... I tried it again and the same thing happened... Looks like
I've encountered a bug in the xnews newsreader... It seems to happen if I'm
displaying "raw" message text (i.e. View->Raw)... Very strange...
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| Al Wells... |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:05 pm |
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In article <Xns9ACEACC7F689Bgrumman581motzarella at (no spam) 85.214.90.236>,
grumman581+usenet-2008 at (no spam) gmail.com says...
Quote: Al Wells <al.wells at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.22d464dccb2b9ad4989a55 at (no spam) news.verizon.net:
I'd rather not wake up to the sound of someone breaking into my house.
To that end, I have several sets of motion detectors around (and in)
my house. The most distant sensors claim a range of 3000 ft., but
being as how where I am the signal has to go through several walls and
obstacles, my max range from inside the house to the sensor is only
about 1500 feet.
I don't know how you did this Mike, but this is not my post - it is from
a different thread
Quote:
Nearly enough time to get a cup of coffee, get nice and awake, determine
the appropriate firearm for the task at hand, and then use it... Nearly...
Maybe if you switched to instant coffee it would work though... <grin
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| El Stroko Guapo... |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:14 pm |
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Al Wells wrote:
Quote: On Saturday I went with a buddy and a group of friends to the wreck of
the Tolten
Nice report. 47 degrees and hot dogs on the surface interval are,
respectively, disgusting and disgusting but if that's what floats yer
boat...
BTW, the lovely Deborah & I saw two jewfish on Tabletops Sunday am. Damn
things are all over the place now.
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ps water temp 82 degrees |
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| Dan Bracuk... |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:02 pm |
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Al Wells <al.wells at (no spam) gmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
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:During the surface interval, we feasted on hot dogs, fresh fruit,
:perogies, cookies, brownies, and assorted chips.
Fresh fuit is nice between dives. The rest is more of of an apres
dive thing for me.
Dan Bracuk
Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.
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| Dan Bracuk... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:23 pm |
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TonyP <arpierre at (no spam) geeeemail.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
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:BUT, during the SI, we had burgers, dogs, marinated chicken breasts on the
:grill. On the way back home, marinated pork tenderloin, dry rub london broil,
:marinated chicken breasts, more burgers and dogs, spinach salad with crushed
:bacon bits and feta, sweet sausage, sausage with cheese and basil, chopped
:fresh fruit salad, and adult beverages of all types.
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:Now... hows that for eating on a dive boat?????
If the burgers, etc were lunch and the other stuff was supper, it
sounds a lot like liveaboard diving.
Dan Bracuk
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| TonyP... |
| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:42 am |
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Quote: TonyP <arpierre at (no spam) geeeemail.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:
:BUT, during the SI, we had burgers, dogs, marinated chicken breasts
on the
:grill. On the way back home, marinated pork tenderloin, dry rub
london broil,
:marinated chicken breasts, more burgers and dogs, spinach salad with
crushed
:bacon bits and feta, sweet sausage, sausage with cheese and basil,
chopped
:fresh fruit salad, and adult beverages of all types.
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:Now... hows that for eating on a dive boat?????
If the burgers, etc were lunch and the other stuff was supper, it
sounds a lot like liveaboard diving.
Dan Bracuk
Eating is part of what we like to do. Everyone has their turn at it. Most
of the trips are at least 2 hours out. Some 3. So, we eat during the SI,
and feast during the trip back. It also affords us time to shuck the scallops,
talk about the big lobsters that got away and rag those that brought up "tiny"
legal lobsters. I don't look for anything under 2lbs. |
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| TonyP... |
| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:46 am |
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Quote: In article <1c056cda-cfd5-41a4-b5ce-e01edd4efa8a at (no spam)
8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, recscuba_google at (no spam) huntzinger.com says...
Being cold and having sucky viz doesn't help matters either. Nor
does getting up at 4am before driving 2 hours in order to make a
6:30am diveboat departure, etc, etc ... its about as long of a day as
flying all the way to Florida to catch an afternoon diveboat with
Mike :-)
FWIW, I didn't notice if you said what the UW visibility was, Al.
Hopefully, it was at least 20ft.
Vis was decent for up here, about 30 ft.
I like the fall diving here. The water is warmer, the vis is better
and the crowds are gone from the shore towns. you can get a motel for
$60 and not have to get up until 6 for the 7:00 departures. There are
a couple of fast boats now, and the days of having to leave at 5 AM to
get to the wrecks are over unless you are one of the old sea cows that
are still around.
The boats out on Long Island are going slower now because the of the fuel
prices. Keeping the price of the charters down means you add about an hour
of travel (1/2hour both ways). That's fine by me. I usually don't sleep much
the night before a dive. Do the sleeping on the boat traveling to the dive
site.
With fuel costs rising, I don't know what it will cost next year for diving.
Right now, we have the cheapest price on Long Island to go out if booked
through our group. Booking through the Captain adds $20 more to the cost.
One boat charged $140 to go to the USS San Diego. We were $40 less. |
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